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post Aug 4 2013, 06:35 PM

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Wow.... the location
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post Aug 4 2013, 06:37 PM

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Wowwww

The location of the station in KL will increase the development of the area, not to mention the price 💰💰💰

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post Aug 4 2013, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 4 2013, 05:34 PM)
KL stop is most likely in Sg Besi or TRX or Bandar Tasik Selatan. *subject to bid winner, i.e. YTL would love to put it in Sentul.

It is expected to have 2 kinds of service - "HSR Express" - a non-stop service, and "HSR Transit" - which will make stop in several places. Refer to our ERL.

Some aviation people also recommend the "HSR Transit" make a stop in KLIA so that it can get some feed traffic otherwise its traffic will drop as Tourists and Biz people (those on premium) would bypass the Airport and opt for Changi (imagine the travel distance from Office to KLIA is like the same as KL-Singapore via public transport).
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TRX, Sg Besi or Bandar Tasik Selatan ??


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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 4 2013, 05:34 PM)
KL stop is most likely in Sg Besi or TRX or Bandar Tasik Selatan. *subject to bid winner, i.e. YTL would love to put it in Sentul.

It is expected to have 2 kinds of service - "HSR Express" - a non-stop service, and "HSR Transit" - which will make stop in several places. Refer to our ERL.

Some aviation people also recommend the "HSR Transit" make a stop in KLIA so that it can get some feed traffic otherwise its traffic will drop as Tourists and Biz people (those on premium) would bypass the Airport and opt for Changi (imagine the travel distance from Office to KLIA is like the same as KL-Singapore via public transport).
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Hmmm...if TRX, then props in KLCC/Bkt Bintang area will fly?
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post Aug 4 2013, 07:22 PM

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Which location in Sg besi? Bandar Msia?
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I think you guys should not put too much hope in this project.
With the Fitch negative rating, the government is under immense pressure to cut spending or increase revenue. At best, it will probably be delayed.
This project cannot depend 100% on private funding. Because the ROI is not guaranteed.
Maybe it will be private sector loan guaranteed by government, but I think rating agencies not stupid.
Maybe, EPF will loan the project - then you better hope it is a good project - because its your retirement fund.
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post Aug 4 2013, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(tigana @ Aug 4 2013, 09:06 PM)
I think you guys should not put too much hope in this project.
With the Fitch negative rating, the government is under immense pressure to cut spending or increase revenue. At best, it will probably be delayed.
This project cannot depend 100% on private funding. Because the ROI is not guaranteed.
Maybe it will be private sector loan guaranteed by government, but I think rating agencies not stupid.
Maybe, EPF will loan the project - then you better hope it is a good project - because its your retirement fund.
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Then government should seriously consider the first proposal that propose by YTL group. Their funding no need government guaranteed . If every thing give priority to GLC then at the end who will suffer ? Every one know !!!!

This post has been edited by skcJVN: Aug 4 2013, 09:34 PM
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post Aug 4 2013, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(skcJVN @ Aug 4 2013, 09:18 PM)
Then government should seriously consider the first proposal that propose by YTL group. Their funding no need government guaranteed .
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cant
later some crazy people come out protest that government give mega project contract to none bumi company.
remember what happened to the re-development at pudu jail?
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post Aug 4 2013, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(chulk @ Aug 4 2013, 09:21 PM)
cant
later some crazy people come out protest that government give mega project contract to none bumi company.
remember what happened to the re-development at pudu jail?
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This kind of mindset was dragging Malaysia to become more develop n wawasan 2020 is forever just a dream .
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post Aug 4 2013, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(skcJVN @ Aug 4 2013, 09:41 PM)
This kind of mindset was dragging Malaysia to become more develop n wawasan 2020 is forever just a dream .
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yes and its happening outside and you and i cant do anything about it.
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QUOTE(chulk @ Aug 4 2013, 09:44 PM)
yes and its happening outside and you and i cant do anything about it.
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We must believe ; there is always another choice for the ppl who have ability n well prepare .

This post has been edited by skcJVN: Aug 4 2013, 09:53 PM
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post Aug 4 2013, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(tigana @ Aug 4 2013, 09:06 PM)
I think you guys should not put too much hope in this project.
With the Fitch negative rating, the government is under immense pressure to cut spending or increase revenue. At best, it will probably be delayed.
This project cannot depend 100% on private funding. Because the ROI is not guaranteed.
Maybe it will be private sector loan guaranteed by government, but I think rating agencies not stupid.
Maybe, EPF will loan the project - then you better hope it is a good project - because its your retirement fund.
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tigana gor,

Do you think Singapore government confident with the current government and our polis administrative? So many murder case reported in the newspaper and singapore newspaper came out saying Sing Dollar 2,000 can hire a gun man. With So many malaysian at oversea working with PR example Australia (Surplus of Accountants and majority malaysian).

Most likely it will delayed or postponed another 10 years.

Beside that, Remember there is quite number of government servant to maintain and project to deliver. Their income would be from us.
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post Aug 4 2013, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(skcJVN @ Aug 4 2013, 09:18 PM)
Then government should seriously consider the first proposal that propose by YTL group. Their funding no need government guaranteed . If every thing give priority to GLC then at the end who will suffer ? Every one know !!!!
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I am sorry to say, YTL will definitely ask for government help.
Or they ask for certain rights in return.
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QUOTE(tigana @ Aug 4 2013, 10:12 PM)
I am sorry to say, YTL will definitely ask for government help.
Or they ask for certain rights in return.
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So , their are one of the cronies ? Ha ..
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post Aug 4 2013, 10:31 PM

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This project is moving very fast. Lotsa people are ready to view the report. Stay tuned.
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post Aug 4 2013, 10:41 PM

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Once e report is released, it will create another wave of buying of properties around e stations. The stations in turn will pull up e prices of surrounding properties. I believe RTS report will be announced end of e year. BBB.
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post Aug 4 2013, 11:14 PM

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LRT estimated completion date postponed, MRT Line2 & 3 Helius didn't have time to announce tongue.gif , when is this SG-MY High Speed Rail Link yawn.gif
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post Aug 4 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Aug 4 2013, 10:08 PM)
tigana gor,

Do you think Singapore government confident with the current government and our polis administrative? So many murder case reported in the newspaper and singapore newspaper came out saying Sing Dollar 2,000 can hire a gun man. With So many malaysian at oversea working with PR example Australia (Surplus of Accountants and majority malaysian).

Most likely it will delayed or postponed another 10 years.

Beside that, Remember there is quite number of government servant to maintain and project to deliver. Their income would be from us.
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my friend,
this is Singapore's cunning plot to get Malaysia's brightest talents to go work for them. brows.gif
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post Aug 5 2013, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(tigana @ Aug 4 2013, 11:55 PM)
my friend,
this is Singapore's cunning plot to get Malaysia's brightest talents to go work for them. brows.gif
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This is how i see it...

If we don't build, our brightest also will go South. If we build, our brightest will go South and probably more will go (especially Chinese).

However,

If we don't build, the foreign expats will not entertain us as they normally bypass us. If we build, we have high chance in getting the foreigners who used to be based in Sg to come to us or we go to attract them as our cost is cheaper and we got better potential in terms of young workforce, land and raw materials.

KL or Iskandar or Malaysia in general probably will steal a portion of money centralising in Sg that would probably would have gone to Bangkok, Jakarta or Manila.

Example,

It is expected that HSR will boost our foreign buyer participation in property sector from our current 3% to about 10% after few years of HSR in operation (assuming good economy and other factors are constant).

HSR is expected to benefit Iskandar Region as it would have a stop there and more importantly, more KL-based investors will go to Iskandar (the other way round).

This post has been edited by accetera: Aug 5 2013, 12:36 AM
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post Aug 5 2013, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 4 2013, 05:34 PM)
KL stop is most likely in Sg Besi or TRX or Bandar Tasik Selatan. *subject to bid winner, i.e. YTL would love to put it in Sentul.

It is expected to have 2 kinds of service - "HSR Express" - a non-stop service, and "HSR Transit" - which will make stop in several places. Refer to our ERL.

Some aviation people also recommend the "HSR Transit" make a stop in KLIA so that it can get some feed traffic otherwise its traffic will drop as Tourists and Biz people (those on premium) would bypass the Airport and opt for Changi (imagine the travel distance from Office to KLIA is like the same as KL-Singapore via public transport).
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if klia goes to kl sentral via erl, klia to trx via hsr is a good option.

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