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post Feb 19 2013, 05:47 PM, updated 13y ago

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With all the bribing,gifts,promises,manifestos and etc ,I belief all Malaysians have made up their mind who to vote for next GE.
The feeling is good and bad but decided , so who do you think it will be next GE.

My feeling is 50- 50

This post has been edited by Fabio1: Apr 9 2013, 07:44 PM
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post Feb 19 2013, 05:49 PM

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post Feb 19 2013, 11:34 PM

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Whole family supporting BN. So imma support BN too smile.gif
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post Feb 20 2013, 09:34 AM

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This thread should go to Real World Issues forum, here...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=74

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post Feb 20 2013, 10:11 AM

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post Feb 20 2013, 04:53 PM

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sure BN but just slightly more only, say maybe 50.5% BN, 49.5% PR, so the competitions are there that can benefits the rakyat.

if BN loses putrajaya in coming GE, i have a feeling bad things will happen like civil war
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post Feb 20 2013, 05:27 PM

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PR not good, but no choice, i hate BN. i think BN might still win(most likely they cheat) but it wont be anything close to majority. cannot let BN take majority or else they will change rule of the game until they cant lose at all.
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post Feb 20 2013, 06:19 PM

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PR. BN too much comfortable already. we need some more improvement. if always BN then there's issues especially regarding on the "brain drain syndrome" that is caused by always "yes sir syndrome"
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Already decided to vote PR and will convince other peoples to do so. Too much problems in this country that can only be fixed via changing a government. Also UMNO/BN will only change when they are no longer the government, UMNO's system and their methods of doing things are way too corrupt.

But voting PR doesn't mean I fancy the behaviour of those conservatives in PAS, who simply cannot think outside the boundary of religion and even have the tendency to force Islamic values onto non-Muslims, this is something that we must be cautious with.
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QUOTE(Fabio1 @ Feb 19 2013, 05:47 PM)
With all the bribing,gifts,promises,manifestos and etc ,I belief all Malaysians have made up their mind who to vote for next GE.
The feeling is good and bad but decided , so who do you think it will be next GE.

My feeling is 50- 50
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1 term is enough for them to proof their stupidity and incompetency to rule the states.

Planning to take over Putrajaya? female dog, please.

I think there's a joke spreading like wildfire among the grassroots supporters of Barisan Nasional right now.

If I am not wrong, Pakatan Rakyat gave an excuse for not fulfilling its 2008 General Election manifesto by saying they were just a manifesto and not promises made by them to the Rakyat.

Nevertheless, we can see for ourselves.

Did Pakatan Rakyat reduce the gate tax by 20% and tax on commercial premises by 10%? Another funny thing was they apparently said it was a "non-doable thing" just a month after gaining power. Duping the people?

Pakatan Rakyat basically made empty promises. Those sweet promises were basically a huge supporting factor which led to their clear victory in a few states.

On Monday, they will release their 2013 manifesto to the public.

By now, the public know how to judge between "a manifesto" and "a promise" as according to Pakatan Rakyat.

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Previously, my vote was for PR, especially DAP. As time passed, I realised that they were all morons spreading lies. Ever since, my vote was for BN. Now, I influence as many people as I can to do the right thing by voting for the right party and to not fall into the Opposition's lies again.

Lowering tax on cars? Nanti come into power cakap not do-able how?

Free tertiary education? Nanti come into power cakap not do-able how?

Abolish PTPTN? Nanti come into power cakap no money re-pay the remaining RM40+ billion in loans how?

Many more.

https://www.facebook.com/BarisanNasionalFanpage
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post Feb 21 2013, 12:25 AM

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post Feb 21 2013, 09:29 AM

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BN? if u wan losmah keep on spending her own saving pocket money since she very young
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post Feb 21 2013, 11:27 AM

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I really hope most of the rakyat has already awaken by now.
This coming GE13 is very important for the future of Malaysia.

God saves us.
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post Feb 21 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(instantgeneve @ Feb 19 2013, 11:34 PM)
Whole family supporting BN. So imma support BN too  smile.gif
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Yeah, you're right!
Malaysians like a government that is corrupted, scam and scandal ridden!
We are also extremely keen to be exploited!!!
It's always better to be on the side of the devil we know rather than the angel we don't.
Because the devil can lead us to hell while the angel cannot.
We rather be in hell than in heaven!
That's our attitude.
You're always right!!!!


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We vote PR so BN will change. If PR don't do well in the next government, at least BN will make effort to change itself from greedy party to party want to serve rakyat.

I know PR is not very good but we are sick and tired of BN because BN is much worst. I have enough of corruption and rich connected bizmen.
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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Feb 21 2013, 09:29 AM)
BN? if u wan losmah keep on spending her own saving pocket money since she very young
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Yeah sure. Continue to claim that she spent some US$24million on a ring. Yeah sure, then make up the story that Rosmah claimed she saved the money since she was young.

She has been denying the existence of the ring since the beginning. Stop twisting the facts.

And come on. Are you seriously that foolish? If that ring did indeed exist and does indeed cost some RM70+ million, don't you think it would be all over the foreign news?

I don't remember reading any international media reporting that she bought the ring.

Expensive rings like this will definitely make headlines anywhere in the world.

QUOTE(Damocles @ Feb 21 2013, 01:25 PM)
Yeah, you're right!
Malaysians like a government that is corrupted, scam and scandal ridden!
We are also extremely keen to be exploited!!!
It's always better to be on the side of the devil we know rather than the angel we don't.
Because the devil can lead us to hell while the angel cannot.
We rather be in hell than in heaven!
That's our attitude.
You're always right!!!!
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Another fool over here.

First of all, you're contradicting your own statement.

"It's always better to be on the side of the devil we know rather than the angel we don't."

In this situation, BN has ruled since Independence. Surely, BN is the devil you know in this case and PR would be the angel that you don't. So, who are you supporting now? PR or BN? Stop contradicting your own statements. Or better still, if you don't know how to use an idiom, don't use it at all.

Second of all, who are you? God? Jesus? Buddha? Lord Murugan? A Penang Deputy Chief Minister's aide was caught in the act of practicing corruption ON THE SPOT early this year. Your comments?

Funny all you fools who support PR claim that we need a change in Gov just because BN is corrupted and that we scored high in the recent corruption index.

Hey bro. Use your brains lah. Do you even have any?

How many states under PR?

If Malaysia is really corrupted, how sure are you that PR, the coalition that is leading Penang, Kelantan, Selangor and Kedah is clean and is not contributing to our high position in the index?

Sick of fools like you. THINK LAH! PR cakap apa you believe apa.

DAP's recent CEC elections. Care to explain?

Even their LIFE MEMBERS also come out to report against them to the police and registrar of societies.

DAP and PAS is already losing their grassroots support. I'm not sure about PKR, but surely they're not far behind.

Lie to yourself all you want.

GE is getting nearer and nearer.

Malaysians are ready to right what was wronged in GE 12.

Let's not forget the Selangor Mentri Besar Khalid Ibrahim recently said that the 2008 GE manifesto was only a manifesto and not a promise. That was the excuse he gave when the Rakyat ask him why he didn't fulfil the promises he made in 2008.

Let's not forget that in 2008, he promised to reduce gate tax and tax on commercial premises. Less than a month after getting into power, he told the state that he will not do it as it "could not be done".

PR issue gag order all the time. How often do you see BN doing that?

The most recent one is by DAP sec-gen Lim Guan Eng and Anwar Ibrahim. They slapped the entire coalition with a gag order banning them from commenting on the recent Johor PKR and DAP state leader. They claimed that the "matter should not be made public".

Explain all this la. Talk so much. When ask you to explain, you cannot explain. When don't ask you to talk, you talk all the bs out.

Typical noob.
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post Feb 21 2013, 03:33 PM

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post Feb 21 2013, 04:06 PM

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I will vote PR. Because by voting PR, BN works harder for the rakyat!
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post Feb 21 2013, 05:43 PM

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until the alternatives prove that they're better than the current govt, i'll still vote the govt. give chance for them? look at selangor and kelantan as well the property prices in penang

at least the govt is doing more work and less talking. but all thanks to the alternatives too i guess. if the tsunami didnt happen during the last GE, for sure the govt is just as reckless as usual. a slap once in awhile will do the govt good

and about the ring... malaysia's first lady have one of the most expensive ring in the world and the rest of the world is not fazed. either
1)there's no ring OR
2)capitalism and materialisticism have died
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QUOTE(zyxxyz @ Feb 21 2013, 03:24 PM)
Yeah sure. Continue to claim that she spent some US$24million on a ring. Yeah sure, then make up the story that Rosmah claimed she saved the money since she was young.

She has been denying the existence of the ring since the beginning. Stop twisting the facts.

And come on. Are you seriously that foolish? If that ring did indeed exist and does indeed cost some RM70+ million, don't you think it would be all over the foreign news?

I don't remember reading any international media reporting that she bought the ring.

Expensive rings like this will definitely make headlines anywhere in the world.
Another fool over here.

First of all, you're contradicting your own statement.

"It's always better to be on the side of the devil we know rather than the angel we don't."

In this situation, BN has ruled since Independence. Surely, BN is the devil you know in this case and PR would be the angel that you don't. So, who are you supporting now? PR or BN? Stop contradicting your own statements. Or better still, if you don't know how to use an idiom, don't use it at all.

Second of all, who are you? God? Jesus? Buddha? Lord Murugan? A Penang Deputy Chief Minister's aide was caught in the act of practicing corruption ON THE SPOT early this year. Your comments?

Funny all you fools who support PR claim that we need a change in Gov just because BN is corrupted and that we scored high in the recent corruption index.

Hey bro. Use your brains lah. Do you even have any?

How many states under PR?

If Malaysia is really corrupted, how sure are you that PR, the coalition that is leading Penang, Kelantan, Selangor and Kedah is clean and is not contributing to our high position in the index?

Sick of fools like you. THINK LAH! PR cakap apa you believe apa.

DAP's recent CEC elections. Care to explain?

Even their LIFE MEMBERS also come out to report against them to the police and registrar of societies.

DAP and PAS is already losing their grassroots support. I'm not sure about PKR, but surely they're not far behind.

Lie to yourself all you want.

GE is getting nearer and nearer.

Malaysians are ready to right what was wronged in GE 12.

Let's not forget the Selangor Mentri Besar Khalid Ibrahim recently said that the 2008 GE manifesto was only a manifesto and not a promise. That was the excuse he gave when the Rakyat ask him why he didn't fulfil the promises he made in 2008.

Let's not forget that in 2008, he promised to reduce gate tax and tax on commercial premises. Less than a month after getting into power, he told the state that he will not do it as it "could not be done".

PR issue gag order all the time. How often do you see BN doing that?

The most recent one is by DAP sec-gen Lim Guan Eng and Anwar Ibrahim. They slapped the entire coalition with a gag order banning them from commenting on the recent Johor PKR and DAP state leader. They claimed that the "matter should not be made public".

Explain all this la. Talk so much. When ask you to explain, you cannot explain. When don't ask you to talk, you talk all the bs out.

Typical noob.
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Explain

1. gerrymandering
2. phantom voters
3. Sabah illegal immigrants given citizenship and voting status -> sabah's population increased by 40% in a few years
4. PKFZ
5. Submarines
6. Altantuya
7. Mahathir's cronyism
8. Framing of Anwar, not once, not twice, go and count
9. Operasi Lalang
10. Mahathir trading away more than RM20 billion of Malaysia's forex reserves

Just 10 explanation for you first.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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lulz..first time see ppl type so hard to protect his lovely BN..lulz
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post Feb 22 2013, 05:47 PM

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vote others not bn lol.. they too rich .. so make other people rich also.hehehe
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QUOTE(ashcrimson @ Feb 21 2013, 05:43 PM)
until the alternatives prove that they're better than the current govt, i'll still vote the govt. give chance for them? look at selangor and kelantan as well the property prices in penang

at least the govt is doing more work and less talking. but all thanks to the alternatives too i guess. if the tsunami didnt happen during the last GE, for sure the govt is just as reckless as usual. a slap once in awhile will do the govt good

and about the ring... malaysia's first lady have one of the most expensive ring in the world and the rest of the world is not fazed. either
1)there's no ring OR
2)capitalism and materialisticism have died
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Good to know that there are still Malaysians out there with the brains still intact.

Read this blog post by a Malaysian. smile.gif

http://apanama2020.blogspot.com/2011/07/tr...g-in-n-out.html

That should clear our doubts if you have any.
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QUOTE(jetpacker @ Feb 21 2013, 09:45 PM)
lulz..first time see ppl type so hard to protect his lovely BN..lulz
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QUOTE(Damocles @ Feb 21 2013, 01:25 PM)
Yeah, you're right!
Malaysians like a government that is corrupted, scam and scandal ridden!
We are also extremely keen to be exploited!!!
It's always better to be on the side of the devil we know rather than the angel we don't.
Because the devil can lead us to hell while the angel cannot.
We rather be in hell than in heaven!
That's our attitude.
You're always right!!!!
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even if PR proved to be the better goverment? please give more matured answers and think through life carefully shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(zyxxyz @ Feb 21 2013, 03:24 PM)
Yeah sure. Continue to claim that she spent some US$24million on a ring. Yeah sure, then make up the story that Rosmah claimed she saved the money since she was young.

She has been denying the existence of the ring since the beginning. Stop twisting the facts.

And come on. Are you seriously that foolish? If that ring did indeed exist and does indeed cost some RM70+ million, don't you think it would be all over the foreign news?

I don't remember reading any international media reporting that she bought the ring.

Expensive rings like this will definitely make headlines anywhere in the world.
Another fool over here.

First of all, you're contradicting your own statement.

"It's always better to be on the side of the devil we know rather than the angel we don't."

In this situation, BN has ruled since Independence. Surely, BN is the devil you know in this case and PR would be the angel that you don't. So, who are you supporting now? PR or BN? Stop contradicting your own statements. Or better still, if you don't know how to use an idiom, don't use it at all.

Second of all, who are you? God? Jesus? Buddha? Lord Murugan? A Penang Deputy Chief Minister's aide was caught in the act of practicing corruption ON THE SPOT early this year. Your comments?

Funny all you fools who support PR claim that we need a change in Gov just because BN is corrupted and that we scored high in the recent corruption index.

Hey bro. Use your brains lah. Do you even have any?

How many states under PR?

If Malaysia is really corrupted, how sure are you that PR, the coalition that is leading Penang, Kelantan, Selangor and Kedah is clean and is not contributing to our high position in the index?

Sick of fools like you. THINK LAH! PR cakap apa you believe apa.

DAP's recent CEC elections. Care to explain?

Even their LIFE MEMBERS also come out to report against them to the police and registrar of societies.

DAP and PAS is already losing their grassroots support. I'm not sure about PKR, but surely they're not far behind.

Lie to yourself all you want.

GE is getting nearer and nearer.

Malaysians are ready to right what was wronged in GE 12.

Let's not forget the Selangor Mentri Besar Khalid Ibrahim recently said that the 2008 GE manifesto was only a manifesto and not a promise. That was the excuse he gave when the Rakyat ask him why he didn't fulfil the promises he made in 2008.

Let's not forget that in 2008, he promised to reduce gate tax and tax on commercial premises. Less than a month after getting into power, he told the state that he will not do it as it "could not be done".

PR issue gag order all the time. How often do you see BN doing that?

The most recent one is by DAP sec-gen Lim Guan Eng and Anwar Ibrahim. They slapped the entire coalition with a gag order banning them from commenting on the recent Johor PKR and DAP state leader. They claimed that the "matter should not be made public".

Explain all this la. Talk so much. When ask you to explain, you cannot explain. When don't ask you to talk, you talk all the bs out.

Typical noob.
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i would like to see what can PR do in the federal.. my vote is for PR this time. next round, should PR do shait also, i might spoiled my voting paper..
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QUOTE(zyxxyz @ Feb 21 2013, 12:22 AM)
1 term is enough for them to proof their stupidity and incompetency to rule the states.

Planning to take over Putrajaya? female dog, please.

I think there's a joke spreading like wildfire among the grassroots supporters of Barisan Nasional right now.

If I am not wrong, Pakatan Rakyat gave an excuse for not fulfilling its 2008 General Election manifesto by saying they were just a manifesto and not promises made by them to the Rakyat.

Nevertheless, we can see for ourselves.

Did Pakatan Rakyat reduce the gate tax by 20% and tax on commercial premises by 10%? Another funny thing was they apparently said it was a "non-doable thing" just a month after gaining power. Duping the people?

Pakatan Rakyat basically made empty promises. Those sweet promises were basically a huge supporting factor which led to their clear victory in a few states.

On Monday, they will release their 2013 manifesto to the public.

By now, the public know how to judge between "a manifesto" and "a promise" as according to Pakatan Rakyat.

rclxms.gif

Previously, my vote was for PR, especially DAP. As time passed, I realised that they were all morons spreading lies. Ever since, my vote was for BN. Now, I influence as many people as I can to do the right thing by voting for the right party and to not fall into the Opposition's lies again.

Lowering tax on cars? Nanti come into power cakap not do-able how?

Free tertiary education? Nanti come into power cakap not do-able how?

Abolish PTPTN? Nanti come into power cakap no money re-pay the remaining RM40+ billion in loans how?

Many more.

https://www.facebook.com/BarisanNasionalFanpage
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QUOTE(zyxxyz @ Feb 22 2013, 09:51 PM)
Good to know that there are still Malaysians out there with the brains still intact.

Read this blog post by a Malaysian. smile.gif

http://apanama2020.blogspot.com/2011/07/tr...g-in-n-out.html

That should clear our doubts if you have any.
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no need to deny~by viewing ur topics,base on ur recently join date,even a no brainer could infer ur intention here~
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QUOTE(Darius115 @ Feb 21 2013, 02:12 PM)
We vote PR so BN will change. If PR don't do well in the next government, at least BN will make effort to change itself from greedy party to party want to serve rakyat.

I know PR is not very good but we are sick and tired of BN because BN is much worst. I have enough of corruption and rich connected bizmen.
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Nearly nine out of 10 voters disagree with Putrajaya’s past moves in granting citizenship to Indonesians and Filipinos to live and vote in Sabah, according to the latest voter survey amid an ongoing royal investigation into the flood of foreigners there for the past 20 years.

Independent pollster Merdeka Center For Opinion Research, which surveyed 1,021 voters in Peninsular Malaysia at the end of January, reported today 86 per cent saying they disagreed with the government’s past action that has seen the foreign population boom in the Borneo state and earned it the moniker “Project IC”.

The survey also found 60 per cent of voters saying they believed a large number of foreigners were still getting the blue-coloured identity cards marking their status as citizens.

The longstanding issue of illegal immigrants that has continued unchecked for decades has turned emotive among Sabah natives like the Kadazandusun and Murut communities, many of whom feel that the state has been robbed of its sovereignty through the massive influx of foreigners from neighbouring Philippines and Indonesia.

More than a quarter of Sabah’s population are foreigners, totalling a staggering 889,000 out of the 3.2 million-strong population in Sabah, or about 28 per cent, based on a 2010 census.

Sabah has 926,638 voters, according to a June report in English-language daily The Star.

The large number of foreigners has also worried Sabah natives, who often blame them for the rise in crime and for stealing job opportunities.

More than 100 armed Filipino gunmen intruded into Lahad Datu, claiming ties with a Sulu sultanate that gives them ownership of Sabah on February 9 and have since refused to leave.

Recognising the political significance of Sabah’s illegals problem, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak had agreed to form a royal commission of inquiry (RCI) to look into it.

Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, Malaysia’s longest-serving prime minister who was in power from 1981 to 2003, has been accused of spearheading the so-called “Project IC”, in which citizenship was allegedly given to immigrants for their votes.

But former Sabah Chief Minister Tan Sri Harris Salleh, who administered the state from 1976 to 1985, has denied at the RCI of the existence of “Project IC”.

Dr Mahathir told a press conference last month that foreigners in Sabah had indeed received citizenship, but stressed that it was “within the law”.

The inquiry before a five-member panel led by former Chief Judge of Sabah and Sarawak Tan Sri Steve Shim Lip Kiong resumes on March 5.

The January 23 to February 6 survey, which was funded internally by the Merdeka Center, aimed to gauge voters’ perceptions of issues in the run up to the 13th general election due soon. It had a margin error of three per cent.

The research house said the survey took place after the January 12 People’s Uprising rally backed by Pakatan Rakyat (PR) leaders in the national capital here as well as the ongoing media coverage of the Sabah citizenship-for-votes royal inquiry.

It noted that other issues that formed the talking point to its survey included carpet dealer Deepak Jaikishan’s and former Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan’s statements controversial statements against the government, and the “Allah” religious dispute.
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Nearly nine out of 10 voters disagree with Putrajaya’s past moves in granting citizenship to Indonesians and Filipinos to live and vote in Sabah, according to the latest voter survey amid an ongoing royal investigation into the flood of foreigners there for the past 20 years.

Independent pollster Merdeka Center For Opinion Research, which surveyed 1,021 voters in Peninsular Malaysia at the end of January, reported today 86 per cent saying they disagreed with the government’s past action that has seen the foreign population boom in the Borneo state and earned it the moniker “Project IC”.

The survey also found 60 per cent of voters saying they believed a large number of foreigners were still getting the blue-coloured identity cards marking their status as citizens.

The longstanding issue of illegal immigrants that has continued unchecked for decades has turned emotive among Sabah natives like the Kadazandusun and Murut communities, many of whom feel that the state has been robbed of its sovereignty through the massive influx of foreigners from neighbouring Philippines and Indonesia.

More than a quarter of Sabah’s population are foreigners, totalling a staggering 889,000 out of the 3.2 million-strong population in Sabah, or about 28 per cent, based on a 2010 census.

Sabah has 926,638 voters, according to a June report in English-language daily The Star.

The large number of foreigners has also worried Sabah natives, who often blame them for the rise in crime and for stealing job opportunities.

More than 100 armed Filipino gunmen intruded into Lahad Datu, claiming ties with a Sulu sultanate that gives them ownership of Sabah on February 9 and have since refused to leave.

Recognising the political significance of Sabah’s illegals problem, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak had agreed to form a royal commission of inquiry (RCI) to look into it.

Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, Malaysia’s longest-serving prime minister who was in power from 1981 to 2003, has been accused of spearheading the so-called “Project IC”, in which citizenship was allegedly given to immigrants for their votes.

But former Sabah Chief Minister Tan Sri Harris Salleh, who administered the state from 1976 to 1985, has denied at the RCI of the existence of “Project IC”.

Dr Mahathir told a press conference last month that foreigners in Sabah had indeed received citizenship, but stressed that it was “within the law”.

The inquiry before a five-member panel led by former Chief Judge of Sabah and Sarawak Tan Sri Steve Shim Lip Kiong resumes on March 5.

The January 23 to February 6 survey, which was funded internally by the Merdeka Center, aimed to gauge voters’ perceptions of issues in the run up to the 13th general election due soon. It had a margin error of three per cent.

The research house said the survey took place after the January 12 People’s Uprising rally backed by Pakatan Rakyat (PR) leaders in the national capital here as well as the ongoing media coverage of the Sabah citizenship-for-votes royal inquiry.

It noted that other issues that formed the talking point to its survey included carpet dealer Deepak Jaikishan’s and former Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan’s statements controversial statements against the government, and the “Allah” religious dispute.
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Hmm. Didn't the officials involved in the scandal admit that they were the one who did it and not BN leaders or whatsoever? If i'm not wrong, they claim to earn some RM11million by distributing the ICs.

Plus, has it ever occur to you that just because they receive their citizenship doesn't meant that they voted for BN? They could have voted for PR or any other party.

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I am confidence enough to keep my vote a secret and i don't need anyone to tell me whom to vote
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Living on a knife's edge: that was the Sabahan reality for the last two weeks.

While Putrajaya played at diplomacy and our home minister mugged for the cameras, many Sabahans were left angry and confused.

There are intruders on our doorstep! Why are they not being chased out?

Do not believe the rumours, Putrajaya said.

We are hoping for a peaceful resolution, Putrajaya said.

And now, good men are dead.

My mother, ever the optimist says, "Let's hope it all turns out for the best."

But I know that right now she is checking that the knives are where she hid them.

Sabahans are not surprised.

Just a few years back, the Population and Housing Census Report for 2010 of the Economic Planning Unit said 27 per cent of Sabah's population are foreigners.

Nearly a third of Sabah.

70 per cent of of Sabah's prison population are also foreigners.

It is the reality Sabahans live with. Foreigners are everywhere, with even their own dedicated settlements.

According to Tan Sri Simon Sipaun, formerly of SUHAKAM and currently PROHAM chairman, when Kampung Ice Box in Tawau burnt down 25 years ago, 5000 people lost their homes.

Only 500 were Sabahan.

Everyone's favourite MP Datuk Bung Mokhtar Radin's own constituency of Kinabatangan numbered about 85,000 as of June 2005.

Only 25,000 of his constituents were Malaysians.

To say that Sabahans have seen it coming is an understatement. Even now, there are 'black areas' in the state capital of Kota Kinabalu that locals will not go. Enter them at night, residents are warned, and you might not see the morning. Not even the police dare.

For years, Sabahan politicians from both Barisan Nasional and the opposition have clamoured for action. Funnily enough, illegal immigrants are one of the few things that has them on the same page.

Because this is our reality: Sabahans have been at the mercy of foreigners for years. Foreigners who have been aided and abetted by Putrajaya.

The RCI findings have proven instead that the sheep have been asking the wolves for protection.

While Filipinos are given ICs and voting rights, many true native Sabahans in rural areas do not have birth certificates or MyKads.

Of course, Sabahans are angry. Some have even taken to calling West Malaysians 'semenanjing' (West Malaysian dogs).

And can you blame them?

Can you blame them for being angry at Putrajaya's failures? For its promises that once it took over the state from the opposition that things would be better? Rosy visions of development and prosperity!

Sabah is still poor. Sabah is still awash in illegals.

And now Sabahans are cowering in their homes, living out the nightmare they knew could be coming.

If only Putrajaya had listened.

* Erna Mahyuni is a subeditor with The Malaysian Insider

* This is the personal opinion of the writer or publication and does not necessarily represent the views of The Malaysian Insider.
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Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) political chief Gapul Hajiru has sounded his warning that the Lahad Datu incident may result in a ‘civil' war (a correct technical term to use if they are Malaysian citizens).

According to Philippine Star, there are more than 8,500 Filipinos in Sabah who are mostly Tausugs, said to be members of the fiercest of Philippine Moro tribe.

Are they the courtesy of former PM Dr Mahathir Mohamad's ‘citizens-for-votes' project?

The Sulu sultanate may or may not have a legitimate claim over Sabah, but that is not the topic for discussion here.

We are wondering why the armed Sulu intruders came in the first place? And the timing too. Were they taking advantage of the government in the wake of the coming general election?

I tend to believe this could be a suicide mission, not unlike the Palestinian suicide bombers, to highlight their claim over Sabah. They hope to bring the world's attention to their forgotten cause/claim.

They hope to get the Malaysian authorities back to the negotiation table. We hope our government is not so weak and stupid enough to take that course.

Their claim has been a non-issue for so long and even the Philippine government has not made/support any active claim on Sabah.

Quigonbond: Putrajaya has a lot to answer to:

1) How did the Sulu gunmen get past our border? Was it failure of our Navy?

2) How did the two commandos die? What were their standing orders? What were the tactics and mission objective? Where were they? Who gave the order?

3) Why did the siege/standoff persist so long? Does it have anything to do with BN being afraid to lose votes from the Sulu people who have been given ICs (identity cards)?

4) Are they going to take pro-active measures to ensure there is no escalation of violence in Sabah?
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My condolence to the families of the two police officers who died at Kampung Tanduo. Unnecessary blood has been shed and yet we are no closer to resolving this standoff.

The treasonous act of issuing ICs to these Philippine islanders has embolden their leaders into thinking that they have the support of their community in Sabah and the right to be there.

With nearly one million ‘legal' and illegal Filipinos residing there, it is natural for them to think so. These are unintended consequences when greedy politician are only looking out for themselves rather than the well-being of the nation.

Our political leaders must stop dithering and start making some tough decisions before the situation degenerate any further. This is an armed invasion. Get the military leaders involved.

This situation is best handled by the military rather than the police. Much of the taxpayers' money has been spend to equip them. It's high time that we put them to good use. If these people refuse to leave, throw them out.
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'How can our police simply confiscate and destroy papers issued by the government, unless they knew these documents are fake...'

Is this the same Harris Salleh who was implicated in Project IC which benefitted mostly illegal Suluk immigrants from the Philippines?

The same Harris Salleh who was once quoted as planning to overwhelm the demography of Sabah in favour of Muslims?

The same Harris Salleh, who after the killings and brutal murder of eight security personnel, suggested Malaysia pay the defunct Sulu sultanate RM200 million to "settle" the matter? I strongly recommend that the Special Branch investigate Harris Salleh.

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It's bizarre that Harris wasn't even aware of the existence of Project IC which has been attributed with issuing tens of thousands MyKads to illegals during his tenure as Sabah CM and he's so well-verse of these MyKads are destroyed by the security forces. Is he not slapping his own face?

As president of Yayasan Islam Sabah, an organisation set up to look after the welfare of 'imported Muslims', he should have known the large presence of Suluks, numbering 800,000, on our shores does present serious security threats to the state.

Surely, he was aware of the 'IC scam' all along despite his pretences at the RCI.
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Najib instructed Cecil on SD2, Bar AGM told

Senior lawyer Cecil Abraham has allegedly admitted acting on Najib Abdul Razak's instructions to prepare the late private investigator P Balasubramaniam’s controversial second statutory declaration (SD).
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Never support PKR or BN since I hate politic.

But after seeing how BN mistreated the citizens over the years, I will vote just to make BN lose, ha ha ha!
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I wouldn't mind less about PR manifesto not full filled. At least they are doing something good for rakyat especially Selangor people. For five years, I can feel directly the impact(free water, allowance for entering uni, klang bridge & ect) whereas in BN I could only see the mere slogan 1malaysia and opening more 1malaysia merchandise using our money for publicity while property price keeps increasing which is something to be worried about for a young grad like me!

Compared to Bn, at least I know Pr dint use my money to buy jewel rings, cows in condos, kapal selam that cannot selam, going family trips, and ect while our national debt is still deficit every year! Whos egoing to bear the debt?

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i would like to see what can PR do in the federal.. my vote is for PR this time. next round, should PR do shait also, i might spoiled my voting paper..
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The following quote said it all!
“Tell me, which UMNO leader does not have problem?"
- end of quote
Remember who said this?
They are all in the same boat and has each others' balls and nuts in their hands!
So, nobody dare to rock the boat!!!!
And this will go on ad infinitum; Joe Public will be the suckers!!!
Until, of course, they are booted out by PR!!!
That's why it's imperative that PR must go all out to grab Putrajaya!!!!!!!!!!

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Yeah sure. Continue to claim that she spent some US$24million on a ring. Yeah sure, then make up the story that Rosmah claimed she saved the money since she was young.

She has been denying the existence of the ring since the beginning. Stop twisting the facts.

And come on. Are you seriously that foolish? If that ring did indeed exist and does indeed cost some RM70+ million, don't you think it would be all over the foreign news?

I don't remember reading any international media reporting that she bought the ring.

Expensive rings like this will definitely make headlines anywhere in the world.
Another fool over here.

First of all, you're contradicting your own statement.

"It's always better to be on the side of the devil we know rather than the angel we don't."

In this situation, BN has ruled since Independence. Surely, BN is the devil you know in this case and PR would be the angel that you don't. So, who are you supporting now? PR or BN? Stop contradicting your own statements. Or better still, if you don't know how to use an idiom, don't use it at all.

Second of all, who are you? God? Jesus? Buddha? Lord Murugan? A Penang Deputy Chief Minister's aide was caught in the act of practicing corruption ON THE SPOT early this year. Your comments?

Funny all you fools who support PR claim that we need a change in Gov just because BN is corrupted and that we scored high in the recent corruption index.

Hey bro. Use your brains lah. Do you even have any?

How many states under PR?

If Malaysia is really corrupted, how sure are you that PR, the coalition that is leading Penang, Kelantan, Selangor and Kedah is clean and is not contributing to our high position in the index?

Sick of fools like you. THINK LAH! PR cakap apa you believe apa.

DAP's recent CEC elections. Care to explain?

Even their LIFE MEMBERS also come out to report against them to the police and registrar of societies.

DAP and PAS is already losing their grassroots support. I'm not sure about PKR, but surely they're not far behind.

Lie to yourself all you want.

GE is getting nearer and nearer.

Malaysians are ready to right what was wronged in GE 12.

Let's not forget the Selangor Mentri Besar Khalid Ibrahim recently said that the 2008 GE manifesto was only a manifesto and not a promise. That was the excuse he gave when the Rakyat ask him why he didn't fulfil the promises he made in 2008.

Let's not forget that in 2008, he promised to reduce gate tax and tax on commercial premises. Less than a month after getting into power, he told the state that he will not do it as it "could not be done".

PR issue gag order all the time. How often do you see BN doing that?

The most recent one is by DAP sec-gen Lim Guan Eng and Anwar Ibrahim. They slapped the entire coalition with a gag order banning them from commenting on the recent Johor PKR and DAP state leader. They claimed that the "matter should not be made public".

Explain all this la. Talk so much. When ask you to explain, you cannot explain. When don't ask you to talk, you talk all the bs out.

Typical noob.
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Never support PKR or BN since I hate politic.

But after seeing how BN mistreated the citizens over the years, I will vote just to make BN lose, ha ha ha!
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not that i liked anwar, but BN (read: UMNGOK) has grown way over their head and acted with impunity, treating rakyat like retarded fools.

They MUST be taught a lesson. Malaysia must move forward and PR deserves a chance to prove themselves. That is why i am going to vote for PR until they're the government of the day. Whether they can stay there for another term, Depends on their performance. But one thing for sure, BN is rotten to the core and there is nothing to lose for a change.
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The Election Commission (EC) says it is “unfortunate” that the 13th general election will be held before the completion of the royal commission of inquiry (RCI) on immigrants in Sabah as it can only clean the electoral rolls after the end of the inquiry.
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The prime minister should disclose how many of the Filipinos in the Sabah intrusion hold Malaysian ICs, said PKR director of strategy Rafizi Ramli.

This is in the light of yesterday's allegations that the alleged Agbimudin @ Azzimudie Kiram is a Malaysian and was even a former assistant district officer (DO) in Kudat, Sabah.

"Confirmation by a spokesperson for a group ... that Azzimudie Kiram was an officer of the state government continues to raise questions about the real background of the conflict war in Lahad Datu,” said Rafizi in a statement today.

"Is Azzimudie Kiram a Malaysian citizen who had been given a blue IC?

NONE“How many among the armed intruders (in the Lahad Datu incident) possess blue ICs?” he asked.

Yesterday, an article published in a Filipino portal InterAksyson quoted a Sulu sultanate spokesperson as "confirming" that Azzimudie (left) had indeed served as a district officer in Kudat.
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not that i liked anwar, but BN (read: UMNGOK) has grown way over their head and acted with impunity, treating rakyat like retarded fools.

They MUST be taught a lesson. Malaysia must move forward and PR deserves a chance to prove themselves. That is why i am going to vote for PR until they're the government of the day. Whether they can stay there for another term, Depends on their performance. But one thing for sure, BN is rotten to the core and there is nothing to lose for a change.
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Where has all the money gone???


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Because they are corrupted?
Scams and scandalised?
Run up a National Debt of hundreds of billions of Ringgit?
In a very resource rich country?
Use race and religion to divide the nation?
Engage in all sorts of nefarious activities?


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Sabah MyKad recall can be done, says Upko.

A proposal by three Kadazandusun Murut parties to recall and reissue identity cards (IC) to only genuine Malaysians in Sabah is not an impossible procedure, said Upko president Bernard Dompok.

He admitted that there would be complications involved in pursuing such a proposal as it required looking into the appropriate laws.

"It is a difficult process. But if we put our heads together, it can be done. This is a proposal that we feel can help towards securing our (Sabah people's) citizenship in this country, especially for those who deserve it," he told reporters after a function in Penampang today.

Dompok noted frequent changes had been made to the IC over the years and should another change be implemented, he said that would be the time to review whether the IC or MyKad holders were genuine citizens when they appear at the Registration Department to change their ICs.
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QUOTE(Damocles @ Mar 17 2013, 07:23 PM)
The following quote said it all!
“Tell me, which UMNO leader does not have problem?"
- end of quote
Remember who said this?
They are all in the same boat and has each others' balls and nuts in their hands!
So, nobody dare to rock the boat!!!!
And this will go on ad infinitum; Joe Public will be the suckers!!!
Until, of course, they are booted out by PR!!!
That's why it's imperative that PR must go all out to grab Putrajaya!!!!!!!!!!
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Not only will BN government not recall Sabah ICs, it has been issuing more and will issue many more ICs to foreigners in its "ICs for votes" exercise in Selangor and elsewhere throughout the nation.
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Needed - truth, reconciliation

Have you heard about the Sabahan district officer who was detained under the ISA for 59 days? His name is Hassnar Ebrahim, and if you have not heard his testimony, please view KiniTV's 'Hassnar: IC giveaways since 1981' and decide for yourself who is telling the truth about the infamous ICs case and cover-up in Sabah.

Nur Misuari leader of MNLFMalaysians must strive and seek to know “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth” regarding the Sulu sultanate, their claims, and the whole cover-up till now. In fact, one of the most damning revealations to me is also the Al Jazeera interview with Nur Misuari (right), the former leader of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF).

We must get to the bottom of this matter of national importance and priority without any more cover-ups or media-controlled lying.

Even former Armed Forces members are getting into this fray of discussing why and how we needed five battalions to fight a mere 200 intruders. I am in some of the loops and it is interesting how “anger and emotion are waging information wars in cyber space”.

Therefore also, I would like to also applaud the proposal from the three major KadazanDusunMurut parties and their leadership that in Sabah all “ICs must now be fully withdrawn, and reissued to only authentic candidates using the Malaysia Agreement guidelines; without fear or favour”.

I believe there are some simple but true and effective guidelines for this can be legitimately given to “authentic foreigners being welcomed in Malaysia”. My 94-year-old dad sat on the IC Committee formed after Merdeka and he was verbalising some of those guidelines personally to me. One of them was the speaking of Malay, and the other was a stay of at least 12 years in Malaya before Merdeka.

azlanWhen we do such a review and replacement exercise, I suggest that in their ICs, it must also be publicly stated that they are Sabah residents, since immigration is a state matter under the Federation of Malaysia Agreement. Is that not also why peninsular Malayans are not given automatic entry into both Sabah and Sarawak?

Maybe these two states may also want to insist under their state enactments that they do not want to recognise federally registered political parties under the current Registrar of Societies (ROS) rules to become locally-registered political parties in some automatic way.

When I was the secretary of the RMC’s Old Putera Association in the early 1970s, we were formally advised by the ROS that we cannot apply for branches to be set up all over Malaya and Sabah and Sarawak because that would make us a national association, and that we might then become a national threat to the current establishment.

We accepted this logic without question, sicne we had no ulterior motive of taking of the country by some illegal means, even if we as Old Puteras had the capability.

If we do not put a stop to this kind of cross-border neo-colonialism, we will continue to propagate and promote the Malayan brand of ethnic politics to be exported to these states, too; which I hear are naturally multi-cultural and multi-ethnic without too much overt racism and discrimination. Malayan politics seems to be teaching them our bad habits as well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj6dyodFI_I...=em-uploademail

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talkto...1944766446.html

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Getting to the root of the problem

Hassnar's (left) testimony is very telling about truth matters on the matter of Sabah backdoor ICs. I saw, heard and felt no reason to disbelieve this man, who has waited in “disgrace all these years” for an opportunity to tell the truth; his side of the truth. Truth matters in all and every area and arena of life. If truth does not matter, God cannot exist. Period. That, too. is the truth; God is all of truth.

There is both authority of truth and truth of authority. Currently the mainstream narrative about Sabah is very aggressively proposed and defended by Dr Mahathir Mohamad that the Filipinos were treated in no way different than the Indians and Chinese of peninsular Malaya. Really?

The truth in context is that the Indians and Chinese in Malaya were residuals of the British colonial masters and their political and economic hegemony. Unless the Filipinos of Sabah were also colonial residues of the British Raj; even if by cause of legitimate claims, these claims must have been made known to the Cobbold and Reid Commissions and the United Nations referendum on this matter.
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QUOTE(Damocles @ Mar 17 2013, 07:23 PM)
The following quote said it all!
“Tell me, which UMNO leader does not have problem?"
- end of quote
Remember who said this?
They are all in the same boat and has each others' balls and nuts in their hands!
So, nobody dare to rock the boat!!!!
And this will go on ad infinitum; Joe Public will be the suckers!!!
Until, of course, they are booted out by PR!!!
That's why it's imperative that PR must go all out to grab Putrajaya!!!!!!!!!!
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In line with public interest, therefore, and as a first step towards democratising the management of government finances, we, the undersigned, call upon the BN and Pakatan Rakyat, the main contenders for government in the 13th general election, to openly lay out detailed policy positions on how they intend to manage the nation's finances.

In their policy briefs on national finance and debt, the two political coalitions must provide the following minimum feedback:

1. Justify the projections for the borrowings that they anticipate making in the coming five years under their respective watch;

2. Spell out plans for tackling fiscal deficits and ballooning government and household debts;

3. Explain how their election manifesto promises on government spending will be consistent with sustainable debt and resource management;

4. Declare their commitment to investigating illegal financial outflows and repatriating these monies as prescribed by the United Nations Convention against Corruption;

5. State explicitly whether they will support the foundations of public transparency and accountability in our national finances by:

- establishing a continuously updated 'debt register' that will be publicly available on the Internet, which records the stock of debts, the sources of these debts, interest/dividend payments made on these and details of the uses made of these borrowings;

- establishing a multi-partisan parliamentary committee for debt oversight and approval;

- holding public fora and referenda on spending or debt decisions of great import; and

- other possible measures.

We urge the two major political coalitions to produce their national finance and debt policy briefs focusing on the proposals set out as soon as possible.

The voters deserve to go to the voting booths with better knowledge of what to expect in the management of Malaysia’s finance and debts from the new government in power.
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unproven evil is better than 56 years proven evil..so thanks but no thanks BN!!
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Agreed my MALAYSIAN BROTHER
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Lesser of the 2 evil. PR is far from being saints but BN, they are satan. My decision remains unchanged since 2008.
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disebabkan takut nak berubah, do u still choosing bn?.. later, kena gst, tax naik, toll naik, bill api air naik, harga barang naik.. bising bising tak tentu hala.. later regrets.. whistling.gif


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Budaya cantas mencantas sememangnya telah lama diamalkan oleh UMNO. Antara punca UMNO yang ketandusan pemimpin yang berkeliber berpunca daripada tindakan cantas mencantaslah. Aku masih ingat bagaimana ramai kawan-kawan aku ‘dicantas ketika baru berura-ura nak menjadi ahli UMNO pada tahun-tahun 1970an. Pada ketika itu memang ramai golongan bijak pandai ( kononnya. Bila dah lulus university tu pandai juga ler ) yang ingin bersama-sama memajukan negara melalui penyertaan dalam parti UMNO. Malangnya ramai pemimpin UMNO yang merasa cemburu dan iri hati dengan kemasukan golongan ini. Lantas mereka dicantas atau dihalang kemasukan mereka. Justeru ramai rakan-rakan yang mengambil sikap ‘melupakan’ hasrat untuk menjadi ahli UMNO.

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but seeeing so many childish brainwashed ppl who cant use their sane mind to judge things anymore.......BN better
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We support on BN not B end . Because BN our country is very peace 1 Malaysia including Bangla.

People happy with brm1 of BN win they will get rm1000 including new tax will introduce name GST.

When BN rule low cost house is RM600k LAN price and meterial price increase who get rich ? bN kronies.

Snatch thief a lot This country is not safe , only BN can stop ?
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QUOTE(zyxxyz @ Feb 22 2013, 09:51 PM)
Good to know that there are still Malaysians out there with the brains still intact.

Read this blog post by a Malaysian. smile.gif

http://apanama2020.blogspot.com/2011/07/tr...g-in-n-out.html

That should clear our doubts if you have any.
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But this increased my doubts...
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TDM,you are dead wrong in saying that the Chinese hate the Malays..Majority of the Chinese DO NOT HATE the Malays or any other races,Majority of the Chinese just hate the corrupt Malay politicians and civil servants just as much as they hate the Chinese,Indian,Iban ,Dayak Kadazan (etc etc) politicians and civil servants...because these "devils" have betrayed their trust...Simply put CORRUPTION and ABUSE of POWERS is the HATE objects not people's ethnicity. Sad to say,during the 22 years under your watch,the corrupt practices became increasingly more blatant and rampant,and your successors did not do to arrest nor to reverse the situation.Now the situation has become so intolerable that the RAKYAT of ALL RACES are rising up against the corrupt devils...YES THE RAKYAT HATE CORRUPTION and ABUSE OF POWER NOT THEIR ETHNICITY
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the issue is corruption.....vote bn out
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PR all the way... 95% chinese is giving new hope for new gomen... Dun believe feel free and ask around
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QUOTE(Fabio1 @ Apr 12 2013, 01:51 PM)
TDM,you are dead wrong in saying that the Chinese hate the Malays..Majority of the Chinese DO NOT HATE the Malays or any other races,Majority of the Chinese just hate the corrupt Malay politicians and civil servants just as much as they hate the Chinese,Indian,Iban ,Dayak Kadazan (etc etc) politicians and civil servants...because these "devils" have betrayed their trust...Simply put CORRUPTION and ABUSE of POWERS is the HATE objects not people's ethnicity. Sad to say,during the 22 years under your watch,the corrupt practices became increasingly more blatant and rampant,and your successors did not do to arrest nor to reverse the situation.Now the situation has become so intolerable that the RAKYAT of ALL RACES are rising up against the corrupt devils...YES THE RAKYAT HATE CORRUPTION and ABUSE OF POWER NOT THEIR ETHNICITY
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Yes, you're right!
There is no hate whatsoever between the races in this country.
In fact, race and religion were not issues at all!!
Nobody really bother about such issues because they were non-issues!!!
That is, before one Mamak got the Eureka idea that he can corrupt, scam and scandalise Malaysians full tilt!!!!
And from his time until now, corruption, scams and scandals have been going on unabated!!!!
Not only is his own party reveling in such activities but also all its component parties are also roped in!!!!!
Now that Malaysians have at long, long, long last woken up from the nightmare and wanted to depose of them, they are fighting teeth and claws to prevent that!!!
The reason is simple because when PR takes over Putrajaya it will mean depriving them of the gravy train!!!!
Not only that, they will have to pay for their crimes of the past decades!!!!
Which they so rightly deserved!!!!
Also, staying in power also has the added advantage of enabling them to continue with the same old, same old!!!!!!!
But all this pain for Malaysians must be ended, once and for all!!!!!!
Who wants to suffer unless one is a masochist!!!!!!!!
So, do what's right!!!!!
Give the criminals what they deserved!!!!!!!!!


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QUOTE(zoldane @ Apr 12 2013, 12:24 AM)
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Hi guys I am back , LY loves me so much till they ban me, good to be back .
Lets rock and roll , I hav been out around the country for the ceramahs of BN and the opposition lately and found the the truth in becoming a true Politician
never happens , none of them have any integrity, ethics,honesty, and I can go on and on.

Anyway lets rock the election
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QUOTE(Damocles @ Apr 14 2013, 12:39 PM)
Yes, you're right!
There is no hate whatsoever between the races in this country.
In fact, race and religion were not issues at all!!
Nobody really bother about such issues because they were non-issues!!!
That is, before one Mamak got the Eureka idea that he can corrupt, scam and scandalise Malaysians full tilt!!!!
And from his time until now, corruption, scams and scandals have been going on unabated!!!!
Not only is his own party reveling in such activities but also all its component parties are also roped in!!!!!
Now that Malaysians have at long, long, long last woken up from the nightmare and wanted to depose of them, they are fighting teeth and claws to prevent that!!!
The reason is simple because when PR takes over Putrajaya it will mean depriving them of the gravy train!!!!
Not only that, they will have to pay for their crimes of the past decades!!!!
Which  they so rightly deserved!!!!
Also, staying in power also has the added advantage of enabling them to continue with the same old, same old!!!!!!!
But all this pain for Malaysians must be ended, once and for all!!!!!!
Who wants to suffer unless one is a masochist!!!!!!!!
So, do what's right!!!!!
Give the criminals what they deserved!!!!!!!!!
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Anything BUT BN
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Because BN is more racist ,
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/sidevie...aysian-insider/
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http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/228976
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My Dear Fellow Malaysians,

This GE13 is not about supporting any individual personalities or parties.

No. It is about social justice, it about finally finding true solidarity and unity that cuts across all ethnic boundaries, it is about ending half a century of racism and discrimination together as a team, it is about holding people in office accountable and ensuring they remain incorruptible.

This is a civil rights movement that Malaysians of all colours and creeds have engaged in, because we have a dream.

For change to happen, we must have the courage to lead and be a catalyst for change. We cannot remain complacent and complaisant to the abuses of a regime that disregards its own people.

It is up to every single one of us to build a government by the people, for the people. We are our Mandelas, We are our Ghandis, We are our Rosa Parks, We are our Martin Luther Kings.....Together. United. Brave. Committed.

We are standing on the precipice of change. In a few short days, May 5, 2013 will finally be upon us. On this, the eve of history, I want to be part of a generation who took the stand, took the lead and made history.

A generation quixotic enough to believe that Malaysians have the courage to make that change happen for the better future that we all deserve.

After 56 years in the darkness of oppression, there is now a clearly ringing hope. Across the lands, from sea to shining sea, people are standing up and gathering and raising our voices in unison, yearning to be counted. Hope rings louder by the day.

We can only vote with our conscience, for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

We can only march on with the courage of our convictions to face the uncertainties of the future, and with hope that our voices will once again matter in building this nation. Liberté, égalité, fraternité! The choice is in our hands.

I hope we choose to hope again. I hope we choose to realise that precious dream on May 5, 2013.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King Jr.

How could we possibly want otherwise?

True Malaysians
Fabio

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