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 The New Mazda 6 2013 (V2), Discussion on everything!

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zweimmk
post Mar 14 2013, 04:21 AM

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QUOTE(Ng Eng Chong @ Mar 14 2013, 02:36 AM)
my SA also tell me will around 2xkm for the milerage due to inspection in JPJ

cause i will go test drive fo 508 tomorrow, the 508 i saw is RM155,888 OTR, the spec and performance is wise and it is a conti, quite tempting,so asking u is probably the best =D

1) agree with that =D but peug has 5 years warranty (if mazda 6 will have 5+5,it will more tempting)
2) this is 100 percent agree thumbup.gif
3) probably? cause not sure about the trend of peug,but one is conti,one is Japanese car, hard to compare
4) poor rv,actually i not sure about the RV of mazda especially 6 (actually it is the most important point to concern to make me to choose between accord and mazda 6 )
5) LOL,i am only 17x,should be ok with that  brows.gif
6) will test tomorrow,but as i known,mazda 6 has very wide legroom,even i fit in 4 to 5 people behind  biggrin.gif
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1. It's not free service for Peugeot
2. By how much? This is crap, it won't be better by rm50 or rm100. At most you are looking at 10% difference.
3. Personal preference
4. Possible but a huge unknown at the moment.
5. No problem for you
6. Not class leading but adequate.

Forget about FC cost, that's utter rubbish. Be more concerned about maintenance cost, this is something you should find out for the Peugeot and the Mazda 6.
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post Mar 14 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Mar 14 2013, 08:40 PM)
7k discount for last year model la. I also just got back from perlis. Found this when reach at the gate.
Never been advertise like this before thus they really got a lot of stocks to clear. Looks like what i felt, the new facelift will probably come. user posted image
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Got so fast or not? This car only introduced 2011. Facelift also will be the Passat facelift first isn't it? LOL!

Most likely they want to push more numbers out by offering better discounts. If you look at the top 10 brands of 2012 (for sales), Peugeot is nowhere in the list.
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post Mar 14 2013, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Mar 14 2013, 08:53 PM)
Fc is bad. Really bad. Stated combined 7.1l/100km. But most of those guys at 508 forum got >8l/100km

For m6 2.0 stated at brochure 6.1l/km but i got:
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Hehehe. 6.6. Nice number
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The MID is NOT AN ACCURATE method of reading your car's FC. For accuracy, please record down your total liters of fuel pumped into your car and the total mileage achieved from the last pump

Example, when you pump in 55L - your readout will be somewhere in the 590km to 700km region. Use the Fuelly calculation to get your actual FC for the Mazda 6. That FC reading reflects how well your car handles in either city or highway driving conditions in terms of %. Highway driving will always have very good FC against start-stop city traffic.
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post Mar 14 2013, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Mar 14 2013, 10:08 PM)
Mazda 3 yrs free service. Would cost roughly rm2.5k. Ive suggest one peugot sa to tell nasim about this on top of the other offers. Dont know wether they will listen or not. Even now proton and perodua got their free 3 yrs service available for selected car
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Well, it's a continental. And Peugeot is moving themselves into the semi-premium segment (this is where VW is positioned). I can see them doing that for the Citroen C line of cars but they probably won't do it for the Peugeot mainline. But who knows, stranger things have happened in the past.

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post Mar 15 2013, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(arcana83 @ Mar 15 2013, 08:27 AM)
Why is it not accurate? my mazda 3 MID works perfectly fine.
Everytime after pump I reset trip and the MID readings, and when I return to the pump I divide the mileage done against the fuel liters pumped, I get similar figures with the MID.
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It's not the most accurate way to get your FC figures. But if you do derive the same figures from your manual calculation when compared to the MID, then I suppose it is.

From my experience from at least 3 different car makes, that MID figure is usually off by at least 0.5L/100km.
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post Mar 16 2013, 09:15 AM

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Does it make sense to buy the 328i when you can get a bigger A6 for around the same asking price?
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post Mar 16 2013, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Mar 16 2013, 09:31 AM)
Depend.
I won't buy a hybrid just yet.
I like spirit driving, so 328i would be my choice.
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But that's still 480Nm of torque, surpassing even the X6 xDrive35i, lol! I'd go A6 Hybrid any day with that kind of numbers!
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Mar 17 2013, 10:38 AM)
Which one do u like?
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Although different class of cars, I personally think that the VW steering looks better, as does the touchscreen. It has a proximity sensor as well so you don't have to touch the screen.

Btw, the 7 speed DSG may have been retained but whose to say it hasn't been further refined and improved? Remember, the car now has slightly more torque but less HP now. Only time will tell if it does suffer the same mechatronic breakdown as its predecessor.

Same rules applies:

If you want to buy a continental, then be prepared to deal with whatever problems it may have. This rule also applies to luxury marques such as BMW, Audi and Mercedes. If you don't want to have any issues or potential issues, go Japanese.

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post Mar 17 2013, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(blu3 @ Mar 17 2013, 07:56 PM)
Skyactive is new engine and much competitive compare to VVTI and I-vtec
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It's a whole package but the new earth dreams ivtec engine should be comparable in performance. The new engine technologies from Toyota and Honda are also set to debut next year. They have already said that they will downsize and offer smaller engines with turbochargers.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20121001/CARNEWS/121009997

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/09...motor-show.html

So don't discount them out, we could be seeing turbocharged corolla, Camry, civics and accords in the facelift cycles.
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post Mar 18 2013, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(sataykajang @ Mar 18 2013, 08:41 AM)
Thanks for the comparison, I'm coming from a mk6 myself. Went for a short test drive of the m6 and as expected, the 6 is a bit more laid back in terms of power. I like everything else about it (I.e. looks, handling, suspension, nvh) just not sure if I will miss the turbo too much.

Need some convincing from you guys... haha
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No point comparing, both are very different class of cars targeting different buyer segment.
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post Mar 18 2013, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Mar 18 2013, 01:32 PM)
I used to use 3M Crystalline 70 for my tinting, now changed to Llumar Crystal 6 + AVS (windscreen). What a vast difference.

With the 3M I used to wind down windows after I start the car as the heat in the car was really unbearable, with the Llumar Crystal 6... really just slightly warm.
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Is it? I used both vkool and 3M, and after a few hours under the sun. Both also I need to wind down. The difference is how fast the car cools down only once you wind the window up.
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post Mar 19 2013, 07:59 AM

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Just came back from Penang over the weekend.

Damn man, FC went down the drain the moment I entered Georgetown.

I can't imagine how the Mazda 6 2.5 or 2.0 will fare any better in Penang traffic conditions tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fadzly @ Mar 19 2013, 08:03 AM)
sorry bro.. ive fill up for city driving in JB. my fc slightly increase from 6.6 to 6.7l/100km..LOL..  similar findings at the trip computer.. i might say the trip computer is accurately enough
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You mean to say you can achieve over 800km in city start stop traffic? Sorry, I don't believe you.
If you tell me that's highway, it's doable. But in the City where traffic is stopping every 5 mins or so? People might as well not bother with hybrids and diesels.
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post Mar 20 2013, 12:06 PM

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If 100% city settings, I consider it fantastic if you can get anything under 10L/100km and good if you can do it under 11L/100km and average if it's anything under 12L/100km.

And by 100% city settings, I mean you are stuck in start-stop traffic for 2 hours a day, 5 times a week.
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post Mar 20 2013, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Mar 20 2013, 01:57 PM)
My first tank (not full, 85%) can run about 555km. Still have 25 range on board, but I'm sure that could easily convert to another 30-40km on highway.
My usage are mainly on city (80%) and 20% on highway.
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Will monitor the second tank. (Fully refill, only until the first click and only 53L, ron97.)
After refill, 752km range on board. Trip computer reset. Mileage only 571km.
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Let's see how it goes.
I don't expect outstanding FC since my usage was mainly on city driving.
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I believe your FC will improve after your first service. Considering you do a lot of city driving, the mileage falls quite inline with what I'd expect.
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post Mar 21 2013, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Mar 21 2013, 09:22 AM)
As long as it can achieve 500-600 km for one full tank, I very happy already.
My ex-FD2 can only served me about 300-380 km (full tank) only.  sweat.gif
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Your foot too heavy already, lol biggrin.gif but it could also be that you were always stuck in traffic jams. My wife has no problem hitting 450km in her FB and she works right smack in the middle of KL.
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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Mar 21 2013, 10:57 AM)
So, again, the reason why I didn't chose 508 and Passat. M6 is way bigger than Passat.  blush.gif
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It's the interior dimension that's important. To be frank, the differences between the 2 aren't drastic. Maybe the M6 is bigger, but it's not Camry obvious big. But kit wise, the M6 is definitely better. But to pay that amount for a Japanese car as opposed to a continental, it's not going to happen, not for me. So the M6 2.0L is still the better choice compared to the 2.5L version IMO but the obvious biggest bang for the buck choice will be the CX-5.
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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Mar 22 2013, 08:29 AM)
Fog light remain yellow is okay.
I'm sourcing the halogen one actually, Philips crystal vision or something like that. Then can just plug and play. No need ballast.
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Trust me, performance is not good. I used diamondvision and crystalvision before. I think still stock was better.
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post Mar 22 2013, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Ng Eng Chong @ Mar 22 2013, 09:05 AM)
the stock of mazda 6 2.0 is 4300k right? if change to 5000k philips  diamond version,the performance stlll not as good as stock?why? hmm.gif
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The higher the kelvin, the less you can see. When it's 8000k, it's a huge strain on the eyes.

Personally, I've used diamond vision, crystal vision and x-treme vision before. It's good, but really not much of an improvement.

I've even used 8k HID before. Horrendous road clarity.

From what I've read so far, either you guys have to fit in the xenon kit from phillips or just change entire headlamp housing altogether if you want bi-xenons.

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QUOTE(Ng Eng Chong @ Mar 22 2013, 11:36 AM)
But stock is 4300k, If u change your low beam to diamond version 5000k Philips, there will be provide bad road clarity?
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5000k is okay. It's more white, that's all. But 4300k will always provide the best illumination.

4300k to 6600k is a good range to keep in. Higher than that is not a good idea

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