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whirlwind
post Jul 15 2020, 01:54 PM

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Hi guys, I’ve recently installed the kwsp I-akaun and found out that my retirement fund is currently suspended and in a loss. 🙁

Am I suppose to switch to another fund or let it be hoping that it will rebound back?
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post Jul 15 2020, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 15 2020, 02:00 PM)
hmm.gif suspended?? sweat.gif  :confused:
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Principal DALI Equity Growth Fund
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post Jul 15 2020, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 15 2020, 02:08 PM)
No action required.
You just cannot top up only.
You can let it auto-pilot, switch it to another fund or sell it off.
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Based on the statement in the app, losing 8%. Switching will incur additional cost therefore I’m contemplating what to do with it. Any expert here to advise?

Principal DALI Equity Growth Fund
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post Jul 15 2020, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 15 2020, 05:08 PM)
I would suggest to switch back to epf fund at least u still can earn something
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Do anyone here know how do I switch it back to EPF? Tried checking the i-akaun kwsp app but I can’t find any way to do it. Or I’m supposed to go to kwsp to do it?
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post Jul 15 2020, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(xalim @ Jul 15 2020, 05:19 PM)
lowest loss % i got around -25% and right now -0.08% (bounce almost 24.92%)

since EPF already suspended those fund , i'm unable to top up on -25%  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ..otherwise, i'll make huge profit  drool.gif  drool.gif
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What’s your recommendation for my case? I’m thinking of putting it back to EPF. Might cover back some of the losses
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post Jul 15 2020, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 15 2020, 06:44 PM)
googled and found this.
not sure if they are applicable to your situation...

EPF i-Invest Online Platform (FAQ - Buying, Selling and Switching)
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/invest_ma...d_Switching.jsp
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Looks like I can’t use the app but log in through the website. Will try it tomorrow
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post Jul 16 2020, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(xalim @ Jul 16 2020, 12:10 PM)
i've no idea.
for me , better let it be in those fund for the long run. since i'm unable to withdraw it now even though in EPF itself.
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Ok, Now I have a different plan. Might just switch to a different investment. Gonna try “Principal Islamic Lifetime Enhanced Sukuk Fund” which is a low risk fund.

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post Jul 16 2020, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 16 2020, 01:11 PM)
hmm.gif ...just some "past" data for you...
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🙏 will continue to monitor. Let’s hope will perform better than the past
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 16 2020, 04:45 PM)
will continue to monitor while your EPF's money is till in Principal DALI Equity Growth Fund or
will continue to monitor while your EPF's money is till in Principal Islamic Lifetime Enhanced Sukuk Fund or
will continue to monitor while your EPF's money is back inside EPF?

hmm.gif
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QUOTE(plc255 @ Jul 16 2020, 05:03 PM)
read it as not sure what to do?
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Switched to Principal Islamic Lifetime Enhanced Sukuk Fund
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post Jul 16 2020, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(plc255 @ Jul 16 2020, 05:02 PM)
that hardly look like beating EPF return...
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In the past. 🙏 future gonna be better.
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post Jul 30 2020, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(monkey9926 @ Jul 30 2020, 09:19 AM)
to i invest tab, then do the transaction, wait for T+4-5 working days
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Thanks, already found out how to do it

Basically you the redeem function to allocate back to EPF but at the moment I switch to other fund to try to gain bank my losses
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post Sep 1 2020, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(AnasM @ Aug 29 2020, 07:45 PM)
Already taken out invest in principal cimb UT. earned more that 6% already
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Which principal UT?
When did you invest?

I have:
principal greater china equity fund (1.81%) ~ less than 2 months
principal global titans fund (1.07%) ~ less than a month
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post Dec 4 2020, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Hantulang @ Dec 4 2020, 09:02 AM)
Im thinking of applying for the 10% withdrawal of acc 1 (Im qualified under category 1-jobless since Feb) but will soon join a new company in Jan next year. I’m thinking to diversify the 60k to other portfolio but still have no firm idea. Should I:
1) just leave it in epf and dont apply for withdrawal and let it compound as usual?
2) Gold? (Hear its on 2 year low now)
3) dump into ASB2 (my asb1 max already with asb financing and some cash)
4) other mutual fund? (Suggestion please)
5) purchase 2nd property?
6) bitcoin ? (Hahah..)
7) others (suggestion please)

Thanks all
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4) why not epf mis? 0% sales charge, do it yourself using epf online
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post Dec 5 2020, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(TheEquatorian @ Dec 5 2020, 05:37 PM)
I’ve been looking more into EPF MIS with all that is going on. I take it you are enrolled in it.

How has it worked? Any suggestions on funds?
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Yup, a few months ago and so far it’s good
Would have been earning a lot more if I started even earlier especially if i started end of Mac or earlier April this year. The rebound of most of the good funds are superb.

Fsm website shares good recommended funds. You can check out there. Once you selected the funds you are interested, you can share them here. I’m sure many can give advise to you. Most of my funds are based on fsm recommended funds

This post has been edited by whirlwind: Dec 5 2020, 10:55 PM
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post Dec 6 2020, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 6 2020, 02:13 PM)
What are your returns like?
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In average 5%

Had 2 funds at around 10% and those less than 5% would be the one I just bought a few weeks ago
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post Dec 6 2020, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 6 2020, 03:31 PM)
Is that 10% per annum? If so, over how many years?
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Nope, I just started a few months ago

QUOTE(TheEquatorian @ Dec 6 2020, 04:50 PM)
Btw, what is the difference between using FSM and going straight to the fundhouses (Public Mutual etc)? I understood that the sales fee is anyway very low (close to 0) for EPF MIS.
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You can use fsm to buy nearly all the funds I regardless of the fundhouses

At the moment epf-mis having 0% sales charge till April 2021 next year.
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post Jan 30 2021, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 30 2021, 09:39 PM)
any sifu here invest epf money via i-invest to something else? worth it?
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You mean Unit Trust?
At the moment most stock market are in the red but if you looking into investing long term, then should be worth it by choosing the right unit trust
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post Jan 31 2021, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 30 2021, 10:09 PM)
just wondering since 0% sales charge now, if any funds will perform better than epf
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There’s many funds that can perform better than epf but as I mentioned now market looks red and if you invest now, are you prepared for the funds to be losing money?

I’ve experienced it by investing in gold unit trust when gold price at all time high thinking it will continue to rise but I was wrong, gold price start to plummet and so is the gold unit trust. I panicked and sold it off, worried that I would continue losing money. Lost 6% of its value

I’ve learned a valuable lesson. UT investment supposed to be long term, you’ll never predict what’s going to happen in the future. Now my portfolio stands more than +15% after starting to invest more than half a year.


By the way, I consider @Grumpy as one of my Sifu and Principal Greater China is indeed one of the good fund

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post Jan 31 2021, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 31 2021, 01:14 AM)
true. many things to consider. though it may be a good idea to go in when market is red, assuming they will rise again in long term.
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If you are prepared, next you have to do your homework
So many types of funds available

If you can take risk, equity UT will give you higher earnings but also higher risk (volatility)

Where is your preferred sector allocation? Go check the fund sheet to look at the details. If you think China stock market is good, Principal Greater China 👍
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post Jan 31 2021, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 31 2021, 01:26 AM)
i see. thanks for the advise mate
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👌 there’s many sifus around
They might be able to give you a better advise

By the way if you think Malaysia market is good, Hong Leong Dana Makmur is one of the good fund you should check out

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