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leanman
post Nov 28 2023, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ankle @ Nov 28 2023, 04:22 PM)
EPF is a retirement fund not an investment fund.

In any case the additional contribution you may put in is limited to 100k per yr.

Also the amount will be locked in long term.

Will the bank give you a loan to park in EPF ??
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I don't think the bank will care where you park your loan, as long as you qualify, they will give it to you.
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post Dec 22 2023, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(Ankle @ Dec 22 2023, 12:16 PM)
Get ready your RM100k  sweat.gif

2024 fresh 100k voluntary contribution

boom boom boom
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Just wondering, you can lock up your money till 50 or 55 to withdraw it? unless you are nearing 50/55.
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post Dec 22 2023, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(leanman @ Dec 22 2023, 03:24 PM)
Just wondering, you can lock up your money till 50 or 55 to withdraw it? unless you are nearing 50/55.
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QUOTE(Ankle @ Dec 22 2023, 03:50 PM)
Very true.

Some even do for family members wife and children

already boom boom boom boom 400 , 500k

Scary
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Come think of it, one is at this level, or i might think it this way. I can also get elsewhere say 1-2% lower than EPF's rate which I can forgo, in return of being locked in for the next 20+ years (if putting in for their children whom are in their 20s or 30s). Also bearing in mind, the EPF policy might change one day, mana tau, later they said you cannot withdraw one lump sum upon reaching 55 but by % only
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post Dec 23 2023, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ankle @ Dec 22 2023, 05:22 PM)
Locking up money in KWSP is never meant to be an investment.

It is savings for the old age.

I would suppose if there are excess funds now why not compound it at 6pct even if its locked up.

The sooner those age 20 or 30 now attain the figure necessary to sustain comfortable living at retirement

the sooner for them to reach FIRE status.

FIRE = Financial independence retire early.

We make decisions based on what we know now.

Suppose KWSP were to change policy of not allowing contributor to withdraw one lump sum but by % only ,

it is not necessarily a bad thing although as a contributor I personally would not like my rights infringed upon.

Take it as a bottle of fine wine in KWSP do you want to gulp up the whole bottle in one go or simply take small small sips to savour

the wine for a long long time to come ...
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 22 2023, 09:59 PM)
to be fair, you should plan for such an eventuality...  ie be prepared that say upon reaching official retirement age, they only allow amounts above a certain threshold, such as 360K rm, to be withdrawn.
The 360K rm is only accessible via monthly withdrawals of say 3K rm?

just saying...
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Just worry that one might need to access the lump sum at one go but unable to. It’s not about wanting it a lump sum or not, just circumstances making you in need of it. That’s my concern cause they are many out there, this is their only life savings and nothing more.

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post Jan 18 2024, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jan 18 2024, 09:57 AM)
Its only yours when you actually spend it, same goes for funds stuck in stocks, UT, bonds, bank accounts, etc.
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If it's not yours, how you can spend it? Same goes to your credit card...
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post Jan 24 2024, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 24 2024, 12:19 AM)
Hi guys, I just found out in efilling can claim for PRS (private retirement scheme) just below the EPF field in income tax form. Sigh I so late to the party.

I did invest some money from kwsp into i-invest. My two funds are:

Public Global Select Fund
Principal Global Titans Fund (Class MYR)

Are these two considered as PRS? Or they are not? But they are listed in KWSP website at I-invest?
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PRS has been around since 2012 and now till 2025. Using this RM3k for personal tax relief yearly
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post Jan 24 2024, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 24 2024, 01:39 PM)
may I know which you bought for PRS? which is the best for my RM3k ?

I actually got to know it from Versa ads (as I am using Versa save), but I don't have confidence much in the things they invest in after reading the breakdown of the low, medium, and high risk PRS funds.
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 24 2024, 02:04 PM)
almost all PRS have poor returns... we invest for the tax relief.
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Quite true as what Ronnie said. I have 3 different portfolios, Public Mutual, Kenanga and AIA. So far Public Mutual is the best, opt for moderate/aggressive fund as oppose to conservative fund.
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post Jan 24 2024, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 24 2024, 02:18 PM)
why so many PRS...?
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Kawan A ask support, Kawan B ask support, Kawan C ask support. So all support lor. Yearly 1k each for them rclxms.gif
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post Feb 2 2024, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Feb 2 2024, 09:55 AM)
For Chinese, on the 5th can pump some money to EPF for prosperity  biggrin.gif
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This year 5th is a good day? should it not depending on your zodiac? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 3 2024, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Ankle @ Feb 3 2024, 09:14 PM)
Can log in.

But I personally prefer the previous format.

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Am I missing something? I cannot see my investment, both apps and web
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post Feb 4 2024, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Feb 4 2024, 11:16 AM)
Not a fan of speculation and unnecessary thoughts. That's why fud on epf still happening today. We shouldn't even reinforce such behavior.
App working fine. My number is beautiful as the last time I've checked.
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I cannot see the option to view my investment related? Can only see if I opt for the old version of app but not via the new version
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post Feb 7 2024, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(alucardMstr @ Feb 7 2024, 11:00 AM)
guys, i put money in epf but still not reflecting after 4 working days. is this normal and expected?
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Last deposit on 29/1, fully reflected on 31/1, via apps
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post Feb 29 2024, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 28 2024, 03:50 PM)
Huh?
Balance of below 1k

How that's even possible???? 🧐😒

One cannot have zero balance? Unless those reach retirement age or just open new account...

Those multiple times withdrawal given previously also.... Cannot empty your EPF account too....
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Below 1k, like those finished SPM went out for work for a while. Need to open EPF account, then stopped working after a few months. and they continued their studies. My son is definitely 1 of them.
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post Feb 29 2024, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ankle @ Feb 29 2024, 10:06 AM)
if latest reports are reliable then dividend rate will be

A. 5.4
B. 5.45
C  5.5
D 5.55
E. 5.6

This is the biggest anti climax of the year  ranting.gif

Nevertheless be thankful for the added blessings  notworthy.gif
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Honestly, it’s just many set their expectations too high to begin with😌
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post Mar 1 2024, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Mar 1 2024, 09:07 AM)
I am actually more concern about the so called upcoming Acc 3, how it will effect the dividend... will it yield a lower dividend? And how will it be allocated if we topup.
They should have an opt in opt out feature, especially for those with more than RM 1 mil... where they can withdraw any access amount anytime, this Acct 3 is meaningless.
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wait a little longer, as mentioned once they announce the dividend, they will share more infor on this acct 3 thinghy...
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post Mar 1 2024, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 1 2024, 11:13 AM)
I'm waiting for this weekend..

Seriously I don't really need the account 3 facilities...

My own emergency facilities is sufficient enough to cover... Got digital bank, Ordinary CASA, ASMx funds & heck even FD... Good enough...

Those badly needs account 3 for survival... I got bad news... You guys really bad in financial planning....
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i wouldn't say all is bad in financial planning, they are some that really kais pagi makan pagi, kais petang makan petang. I have been through that myself. Its really a blessing to have some extras at times.
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post Mar 1 2024, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(batman1172 @ Mar 1 2024, 12:50 PM)
can fix withdrawal by giving more dividend% for account 3. logically people won't take out.
but please give me option to move from account 1 to 3.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Mar 1 2024, 12:59 PM)
crazy ? Account 3 will have Zer0 dividend actually
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Those that are in need of funds will not care about the dividend, be it 6% or 8%
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post Mar 3 2024, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Mar 3 2024, 04:00 PM)
GG EPF
I guess have to scale back on my vacation budget
6.5% going Japan
5.5% going Bangkok saja
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You at the level where you can withdraw aldy?

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post Mar 3 2024, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Mar 3 2024, 07:19 PM)
Given this dividend rate.. Will it be better if I take out from Account 2 and put into house loan?
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 3 2024, 07:27 PM)
that really depends on your current financial health lor

if you can plan and manage the epf fund reasonably good till retirement age, ok la

your house loan near ending? also good idea to clear it faster (my opinion).

if loan still new, you wont see much impact now. but impact to epf fund is noticeable every year.
how's your career? financial status? if you can sustain the mortgage, then no rush to use EPF, unless your trust in epf is low  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Mar 3 2024, 08:27 PM)
35 years old this year and house loan got 30 years old.. Lama lagi lol.. I can sustain the mortgage no problem. Just wonder if reducing house loan or continue keep in EPF will be more beneficial.
Because EPF rate is still better?
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This is what I did, took out about 180k to settle my housing loan where I was still owing about 210-220, cannot remember exactly how much. That time I think I have another 15-18 years to go. After settling that, I continued for another 3+ years and then loan fully settled. So nice when you are freed from that loan repayment.

But maybe not for your case as it’s still a long way to go..

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post Mar 3 2024, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Mar 3 2024, 09:41 PM)
I put 3% and assuming I retired at 55 years old...I am 35 years old this year so 20 years more to go. Assuming after I retired, I need to have money until age 80...so the retirement money need to last 25 years.

Not sure how much stuff will cost that time...I wonder if 7k monthly is enough or not also assuming no debts sweat.gif
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