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ah_Keng
post Apr 16 2024, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Apr 16 2024, 09:57 AM)
I really hope inter-account transfer is allowed or to opt-out, coz I dont need or want the Acct 3 !
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i thought that's what nst meant, where member allowed to transfer from account 3 to 1,2 to maximize return
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post Apr 17 2024, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 17 2024, 02:02 PM)
monthly have to do the work to transfer #3 to #1
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got announce anywhere on this month transfer?
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post Apr 17 2024, 02:15 PM

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saw this reply in kwsp fb
ah_Keng
post Apr 24 2024, 04:53 PM

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https://www.nst.com.my/business/economy/202...google_vignette
ah_Keng
post Apr 25 2024, 12:54 PM

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no mentioned how to transfer money from account 3 to account 1 wo
ah_Keng
post Apr 25 2024, 04:46 PM

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whatever they saying now, just listen.
i am betting the account 3 will have different dividend, just when.

what a timing, was planning to take my son go open account on 13th May as his 14th birthday is on 11th.. now for sure epf will be crowded
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post Apr 25 2024, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 25 2024, 04:51 PM)
Given the lack of penalty for Account 3 withdrawals and the exact same dividend rate across the board:

1. Members should opt-in to maximize their Account 3 starting balance
2. Members should maintain the 10% contribution into Account 3 moving forward (rather than transfer to Account 1/2 or submit the form to change the allocation %)

Ultimately, you lose nothing and you get some flexibility to draw down into liquidity should a calamity befall you. The only issue will be, for those who do not have financial discipline, I believe they will tap into Account 3 for frivolous spending.
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true for member below 55 or <1mil
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post Apr 25 2024, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Apr 25 2024, 04:52 PM)
if based on Previous history (post MCO withdrawals). should be another 2 or 3 years later dividend would be lower.... given "token rates" only
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that's my guess too, overall lower for next 2 years, but will jump in the election year in 2027
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post Apr 25 2024, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 25 2024, 05:30 PM)
just use the self service kiosk.... no need to visit the counters
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yes, last year when open my daughter also queue for kiosk, no need counter.
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post May 14 2024, 05:38 PM

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has anyone tried transfer money from account 3 to account 1?
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post May 20 2024, 12:16 PM

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just now drop by EPF, want to open account for my son..
queue is super crazy long, may be 200 ppl...
these ppl no need work?
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post May 20 2024, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(iamloco @ May 20 2024, 05:48 PM)
To be fair employers also contribute to EPF so it's not always about rakyat's hard earned money.
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eh, employer contribution is from employee's salary also what
no employee working, employer need to contribute meh
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post May 20 2024, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ May 20 2024, 04:06 PM)
user posted image
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now it's 4 minutes
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post May 20 2024, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 20 2024, 03:42 PM)
If I am kwsp since introduce account flexible kan bagus just introduce kwsp debit card can use directly from account 3
Debit card can use to pay for goods and withdraw money from ATM but without casa account number
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good idea, then EPF become bank...
our boss also got said before ma, can use EPF as collateral to take loan, then might as well EPF straight away give loan.
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post May 21 2024, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ May 20 2024, 08:59 PM)
The way Singapore do it is good for idiots. But not good for financially savvy people. I would rather it be like Malaysia. Idiots die, not my problem.
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singapore system is to create a society that everyone as equal as possible, take care basic needs for all
if you want more, work harder to find other loop holes, no easy ride from cpf
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post May 21 2024, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 20 2024, 09:12 PM)
how is the EFP system in singapore?
got account 1, 2 and 3 or just single account?
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multiple account with different return and got cap.
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post May 21 2024, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 21 2024, 08:53 AM)
In bolehland same same saja
Want more work harder to earn money
Epf dividend kinda sucks
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not the best, but easy for lazy ppl like me
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post May 21 2024, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ May 21 2024, 09:10 AM)
What loopholes? EPF allows full withdrawal at 55. Smart person will either keep it in EPF or withdraw dividends to use or withdraw a big portion to invest elsewhere for better returns. Idiots will withdraw all buy Iphones every year.

Singapore meanwhile prevents the smart people from managing their own funds, because it assume by default you all bodoh. So they only give you a monthly payout (after 65? This I am not sure), so that idiots don't go Sai Lang on iphones.

There's no easy ride either way if you don't make your fortune by retirement age. You are still farked if you only have RM240k in EPF by retirement age and that's your only asset.
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i said cpf, earlier loophole was SA shielding
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post May 21 2024, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ May 21 2024, 10:02 AM)
low return but strong currency, win liao.

what i like cpf best: 20% employer, 16/17% employee = 36% per mth in your retirement fund.
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got cap, need to strategize when negotiate salary with employer.
cap is increase next few years also


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post May 21 2024, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ May 21 2024, 10:18 AM)
sucks but higher than CPF for sure... except the currency rate which wins hands down
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if someone free can do this comparison,
1. EPF vs CPF over 20 years
2. use same contribution based on exchange rate across the whole period, say when 1:3, then EPF - 3k, SGD 1k, when 1:3.5, when EPF -3.5k, SGD 1k
3. then calculate return
4. currency appreciation
5. inflation / buyer power (use big mac)

see which one better

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