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batman1172
post Oct 18 2024, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 18 2024, 06:06 PM)
If both epf n asmx kena tax, just transfer earlier to your loved one.
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Lock in property. Hope no inheritance tax

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post Oct 18 2024, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Oct 18 2024, 06:08 PM)
gov will exempt one... purposely mention that it is under consideration to scare the people, and then claim he is magnanimous and prihatin.... see lar...

so no need to think too much.. like you mentioned earlier, time to redo again portfolio alignment and if need be, into fc assets.
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If they dare to write the word consider they will most probably not bring it to tax. You are right. But since it’s not tabled yet they leave it open.
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post Oct 18 2024, 07:24 PM

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post Oct 19 2024, 10:57 AM

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Can do inter generational wealth transfer within epf soon

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...o-be-introduced
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post Oct 22 2024, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 22 2024, 04:00 PM)
Confirm lorh

EPF need the $$$..... For Domestic investment purposes....
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Increase voluntary contribution from 100k to 200k or higher also can
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post Oct 23 2024, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 23 2024, 09:13 AM)
Malaysia parents having doubt on the new EPF intergenerational wealth transfer scheme to children account 😏

https://asianews.network/malaysian-parents-...drens-accounts/
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Can make mechanism such that die already only transfer. That way epf dividend keep growing.
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post Nov 10 2024, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Gladiator118 @ Nov 10 2024, 03:37 PM)
Don't know his salary history of course. Currently about 2x,000 I believe. So the 35yo lady having 2m in epf with 50k/month is actually possible. Just that Ive never heard of anyone earning that much at that age..unless shes earning in USD/other currency...
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That’s about right
18k basic salary at 23% statutory epf rate would add up to 50k yearly. With another 50k self contribution would be 100k yearly. Assuming no increments and bonuses, that would be approx 1m with epf dividends over 8 to 9 years. Getting to 1m working 10 years is possible at 37.
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post Nov 11 2024, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 11 2024, 09:26 PM)
with US bullrun, i hope our epf dividend also bull run
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Maybe EPF retain some of the earnings for a rainy day?
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post Nov 12 2024, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Nov 11 2024, 10:15 PM)
if every quarter we say investment income jump 10% will do la..
but how come when give us the dividend cannot even reach 6%
now say comparing last year 2023 vs this year 2024, again say investment income jump by 20% so does it means we will get at least 10% dividend?
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Better to have div fluctuating between 5.5 to 6% than allowing it to range between 2.5 to 10%
Its a capital guaranteed retirement fund not investment.
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post Nov 23 2024, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ Oct 20 2024, 01:53 PM)
The proposed 2% tax on dividend > 100k is onto individuals. So talking about epf’s dividend return from their holdings is also far fetched.
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Dividends from epf ASM ltat and unit trust no tax.
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post Nov 27 2024, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Nov 27 2024, 01:04 PM)
Problem with Shariah is cannot opt out when you change your mind & 2.5% minimum dividend rate.
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Any reason convert already cannot opt out?
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post Nov 27 2024, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 27 2024, 08:34 PM)
What to do...

Islamic principle cannot have anything "guarantee"...
Whatever is from profit only...
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Does it share loss too?
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post Dec 12 2024, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ Dec 12 2024, 08:17 PM)


All starting 2026

min excess withdrawal threshold raised 100K annually for 3 years..
by 2026 : Anything above 1.1mil can take out
by 2027 : Anything above 1.2mil can take out...
by 2028 : Anything above 1.3mil can take out...

basic savings raised annualy for 3 years..
by 2026 : basic savings 240,000 + 50K = 290K
by 2027 : basic savings 290,000 + 50K = 340K
by 2028 : basic savings 340,000 + 50K = 390K
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Maybe just maybe
By 2026 : 56 yo only can withdrawal
By 2027 : 57
By 2028 : 58 and so on until 60
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post Dec 13 2024, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 13 2024, 09:40 AM)
I think, they dare not shift the 55 age across the board
It would have lesser resistance if they tiered it like
Withdrawal at 55 will be maintained for those that are above 40 (born before xx) , will moved to 60 for those below 40 ( born after xx)
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I think so too. Changing the age has a big impact on majority. However moving the benchmark from 1.0m to 1.3m has no impact and I think it’s fair since it’s a retirement fund not an investment platform.
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post Dec 13 2024, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 13 2024, 05:06 PM)
bingo. set a big net to 1.3 mil bar, trapping t20.

but allow some small holes to let b40 withdraw money to buy iphone and go holiday
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They could just stop additional voluntary contributions 100k above 1.3m going forward.
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post Dec 17 2024, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Dec 17 2024, 05:20 PM)
If this happens rakyat will bising
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Only 1% epf members above 1m. Bising also nothing happen.
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post Dec 18 2024, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Dec 18 2024, 02:01 PM)
if strictly plucking from statistics, average life span for malaysians are 75.2 years old (both sexes).
https://open.dosm.gov.my/dashboard/life-expectancy

hence if doing strict averaging, balance in epf at age 65, only have 10.2 years to spend it all (of course some longer some shorter).
at EPF's recommendation of enhance lifestyle of RM1.3mil over 10.2 years is an impressive RM10,656 / month. Not factoring dividends and inflation.
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Average lifespan include infant death, high risk activity like rempits. So if we’re none of the above, expectancy will be higher unfortunately
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post Dec 20 2024, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(lock_82 @ Dec 20 2024, 09:23 AM)
Base case now one can withdraw 10%..

If one saving now is meant for major spending like house, oversea education assume exceeding 25% available then best to keep it elsewhere.

Else it maybe impossible to outrun shifting goalpost which by 2028 will be at 1.3M
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It’s a retirement saving fund. Best not to withdraw for any other purpose other than retirement. It is good to have shifting goal post in line with inflation. Going forward should evolve into a pension fund with increased dividend hopefully.
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post Dec 28 2024, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Dec 28 2024, 09:52 AM)
Asb 5.75% will epf outperform asb?
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Most of the time yes
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post Jan 2 2025, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Jan 2 2025, 12:01 PM)
do you have the source for this?
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The star said that the boss said.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/true-or-not...account-3#close

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