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maximR	Feb 16 2013, 12:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #1
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	Yeah , all the best ! Last batch of PMR . I wonder if LPM will make it their hardest PMR . evillaugh
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maximR	Feb 16 2013, 07:41 PM Return to original view \| Post #2
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	PMR has always been the least fav of all threads , but 2011 and 2012 were different .
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maximR	Feb 17 2013, 01:25 PM Return to original view \| Post #3
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	I disagree with iSean . I did not read any of the Sejarah or Geografi , especially Geografi . If you have a lot of time to waste , then go ahead . I relied on a compact book , published by Sabadi with diagrams and maps for Geografi . The important points are there , and they are all that you need . Geografi textbooks was horrible . I only relied on the mini sized Whizz Thru Sejarah by Oxford Fajar . It has everything from the textbook , copied and pasted in the form of notes , without unnecessary paragraphing . The nilai questions are supposed to test your understanding . You will not need to memorise any of them . They are common sense . There is no fixed number of nilai questions . They will change . And yes , past year questions are extremely helpful for both subjects . Good luck !
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maximR	Mar 30 2013, 11:54 AM Return to original view \| Post #4
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(darthbii @ Mar 30 2013, 10:08 AM) Wow is this true bro? Mind telling me the title for the Geografi book? I might want to grab a copy Yes , it's true . I remember that it was a black coloured , Nexus Geografi PMR ( Berpandukan Peta dan Fakta Diagramatik ) , it's a thinner version compared with the actual Geografi book , published by Sasbadi . I believe the cover has changed though . I used the book and consistently scored 58-60 . Geografi was one of my favourite subjects in PMR because the questions are fixed , there is no twist when it comes to the questions . It's either whether you know the answer or not . Doing exercises ( Trials / Past Years ) helps a lot too . I remember finishing the form 1 - 3 Geografi syllabus around May and started doing exercises leading to PMR . I actually did so many papers that I became sick of them when my teachers gave more during trials . Preparing early for it is actually a good thing . Good luck !
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maximR	Mar 30 2013, 04:57 PM Return to original view \| Post #5
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(darthbii @ Mar 30 2013, 12:10 PM) thnx for your reply bud . i will try and check that book out this night . No problem .
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maximR	Mar 30 2013, 08:41 PM Return to original view \| Post #6
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(aikachan @ Mar 30 2013, 07:55 PM) Can you give us the book's ISBN? I'm not sure where I've placed it , but the here's the cover : http://www.google.com.my/imgres?um=1&hl=en...13&tx=131&ty=51 The cover should have changed by now .
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maximR	Mar 31 2013, 06:15 PM Return to original view \| Post #7
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(MathsGeniusOrNot @ Mar 31 2013, 06:04 PM) yea sure!! i just feel like that i dont even know all the fundementals of gegraphy well, i know where are padi's planted at, nanas and those oil plantation stuff.. but i dont have a solid foundation for my geography... and sejarah. any tips guys? and science form 2 is HELLLLL!!!!!! Can you specifically tell us what problem you're having with form two Science ? There are more chapters , yes , but they are quite straightforward . PMR Science - easy to score an A . I worked really hard for it , read the entire SUCCESS PMR Science book so many times , did ALL the trial papers for science from all states from 2009 - 2011 , and when I sat for the science PMR paper , I finished it with confidence . All of the questions were familiar to me . But what about some of my classmates who failed their science all year long and played all the while until PMR ? They scored A . But then they're struggling now . So there are no shortcuts . This post has been edited by maximR: Mar 31 2013, 06:28 PM
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maximR	Apr 14 2013, 08:08 PM Return to original view \| Post #8
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	PMR isn't important . But you need to work hard , and excel in it . Because it teaches you the determination to succeed , and if you're able to bring it up to form four and form five , there's a high chance you'll succeed in SPM too .
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maximR	Jul 23 2013, 06:48 PM Return to original view \| Post #9
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(Krevaki @ Jul 23 2013, 05:25 PM) You asked, I answered. Pressure. Is it just me or technology has made students more pampered ? I remember finishing the entire Science and Geography syllabus right around May . My teachers did not help at all ! It was pure hardwork . You can just imagine that the amount of effort has been doubled to study those SPM topics . Now all I'm seeing are form three students complaining about how hard this chapter is , how challenging that topic is ... And when you ask them to refer to books , they come up with witty comebacks . Sigh .
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maximR	Jul 23 2013, 06:51 PM Return to original view \| Post #10
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(infrasonic @ Jul 23 2013, 06:44 PM) and what does this supposed to mean? What does your comment supposed to mean ? It states clearly the common error you must avoid . It's basic elementary fraction operation . Basically , it says that you must equalise the denominator of the RHS .
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maximR	Jul 23 2013, 07:51 PM Return to original view \| Post #11
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(darthbii @ Jul 23 2013, 07:39 PM) oh now i get. so if more space, more air = higher air pressure? still dont get the others like a high place or a low place, which one has higher pressure and lower pressure? When you're higher up , at a higher altitude , less amount of air is 'pressing' against you . When you're at sea level , a lot of air would be 'pressing' or 'pushing' against you , so you'll experience a higher pressure . Think about swimming in a swimming pool . When you dive in deeper , a larger amount of water would be pushing against you . Same goes with air .
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maximR	Jul 23 2013, 08:28 PM Return to original view \| Post #12
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(darthbii @ Jul 23 2013, 08:07 PM) so higher place=lower air pressure while lower place= higher air pressure? i think i get it now I hope you'll understand why that's the case instead of just remembering which is which .
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maximR	Jul 23 2013, 09:55 PM Return to original view \| Post #13
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(infrasonic @ Jul 23 2013, 09:21 PM) i mean the answer lol. need an explanation for it i guess spm really did gave a lot of stress to you people lol. it's not like you never ask for help when you're study pmr, what more to say it's easier and faster to study by asking. actually less space, more air = higher air pressure high place = lower air pressure. imagine earth as a tank filled with water (air in earth of course). if you're on the bottom of the tank, more water will be on top of you, so the pressure will be higher. when you go higher up, there will be less water pressing on you. that's why some people have trouble breathing when they go climb the mountain coz the air is thinner there No . Buddy , you're not making it more casual with your 'lol's . I was pointing out the fact that you did not put in enough effort before asking . You're taking things for granted . When I was your age , I had so many questions in my head . What is a magnetic field ? Why does current flow in a direction opposite to the flow of electrons ? What is current , and how is it different from voltage ? Nobody was there to answer my question . My teachers were out of the question . My parents ? So the only way for me was to read as many books as I could get my hands on . Surf as many sites explaining the concepts as possible . Think about them day in , day out . Don't understand a Maths formula and how it's derived ? Derive it as many times as I can until I completely get the essence of it . That's called studying . That's what you do to educate yourself . You may think that we're trying to act smart by not providing the answer . In fact , we're doing something good for you . When there are answers in your book , it's always better for you to learn them yourself before asking to be spoonfed . No , it's definitely easier to get the answer by asking , but what would you get ? Would you remember what I've just told you in a few years time ? When you spend time thinking on something , researching , and finally get the answer , you'll remember it for many years to come . And you can't beat the feeling . Realise this . It'll do you good . It's okay to ask , but make sure to be specific , and make sure you've exhausted all avenues before deciding on asking . On a side-note , less space = more air = higher pressure is incorrect . When you compress space filled with air molecules , you won't get more air out of nothing . What you're doing is you're limiting the space filled with air molecules ( the no.of molecules remain the same ) . Hence , there'll be more air molecules per unit area , more collisions occur , hence more pressure . This is based on the Kinetic Theory of Gases .
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maximR	Aug 1 2013, 08:52 PM Return to original view \| Post #14
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(IntensiveBytes @ Aug 1 2013, 07:44 PM) Add me into the PMR candidates thread. Last day of trial is tomorrow. I'm willing to talk to some people and share my future plans with you guys, coming to think of it, I'm really concerned of my studies now because I have aspiring plans for my future (I'm talking about going to the US and meeting up with my relatives and attending a college there). When it comes to education, I am below average. My Sejarah is usually 30-50. For the trials, I've got BM and GEO results already. I've gotten about 50+ for Geography, and about 56 or so for BM. Today I had Maths 2 for the trials and.. I probably left about 10 (more or less) questions or so blank. The others I've done but I am totally not confident that I'll ace them all. So.. I'm pretty damn sure I will not impress my parents for my trials, and as for PMR, maybe I can, maybe I can't, it all depends if I'll go hardcore in terms of studying during these 2 months. I'll say I'm above average compared to every non-college student here in Malaysia when it comes to Computer Science and Information Technology. I have a passion for system administrating, IT, servers, and the like. I even have myself a job, two actually, so I'm earning some income. Basically 1 full time tech support job for a registered LLC (limited liability company) in the US. They offer VPSs and dedicated servers. The other part time job is pretty much a web developer position. I do front-end web developing, and I'm more of a "junior" web dev. It's just a guy who has done tons of websites for people. I do the small updates, still developing and coding for his clients' websites though. HTML, CSS, etc. I'd say it's quite an achievement for a 15 year old like me. I'm the go-to person for family and friends whenever it comes to any computer related. I've even developed websites for local companies, businesses and organizations. Though, that is more towards front-end web developing, and when it comes to that line of skills, I'm not really focusing on them right now. More towards systems, especially servers! I plan on exercising my skills in virtualization (Linux and Windows) and soon, offer web and server hosting. Minecraft servers, Linux virtual private servers, dedicated servers, etc. Really wish to visit a datacenter one day.. Anyway, yes, as you can see I have high spirit when it comes to learning things I like and enjoy. I want to go to the US and live there. I want to study there! BUT, I am flunking out badly in my studies. I just do not enjoy Maths, Science, Sejarah, Geography, BM, etc. Who does!? They're so boring and are not relevant towards what I want to learn. But it's part of life We have to ace them, and then once we can further our studies in college in Malaysia or overseas, we'll forget about everything we've learned, since they are TOTALLY irrelevant! Unless you want to be a Mathematician, or a scientist.. or a Historian. Or whatever that is relevant to what we're learning in Secondary school now.. HELP ME OUT! :/ I want to just do whatever is needed to ace PMR, SPM, maybe STPM and live my dream, which is to get a Bachelors degree in Computer Science and Information Technology.. I do go for tuition (crash course pretty much, with 70 or less other people..) and I believe it doesn't help much, the teachers pretty much go through a booklet with questions and short notes in a very fast manner. I want to please my parents and do whatever that is necessary to go to the United States and attend a college there, so this time I really mean it when I say I want to study and get smarter! ^^ What I really think I'm lacking here are BOOKS! Not reference books, but REVISION books. I don't have that cool and really useful "past year questions" book that almost everyone does. Sigh, I really need to tell my parents to get them for me.. I have reference books and all, but they're all given by family and friends, and they're quite old and out dated. My parents think that's good enough because they don't know it's out dated. Not suitable for me really, all of the BM reference books don't even cover the novels for the BM Komsas I'm reading. Any active people on here? Maybe some of you guys can help me out with some questions, not really doing my homework, just explaining things to me.. like Geography, Sejarah, Maths, Science.. etc. Oh well, we have to learn all these irrelevant things, ace them, and then forget about them.. just to get into a "good" college. Sigh... Do you expect to enjoy programming if you detest Maths ? If you dislike Maths ( and Science ) and think it's totally irrelevant , then you can forget about computer science . They're the upper epidermis of the real stuff , not the flesh and bones . Stuff you learn in PMR ( Maths and Science ) are the mere basics . They are not " irrelevant " as what you've said . Expect to do a whole lot of Maths if you want to read Computer Science in uni . If you don't have past year books , is it so hard to get them yourself ? Do you really need to pester your parents to get them for you ? It all depends on your initiative .
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maximR	Aug 1 2013, 08:54 PM Return to original view \| Post #15
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(Zgames @ Aug 1 2013, 08:38 PM) Computer Science and IT eh? Well different people have different taste. For me I just want to be a Game Designer. KDU Offers that. What you can make sure is if you want to go a "good" college 6-7 A will do. But don't get any C's that'll maybe destroy that hope of yours. For me, I only serious about SPM. PMR is like one of those thing that talented students didn't got to go like MARA and others SBP. I'm not an "Asrama" kind of guy cause' I bound not to leave my house at all. So even if I got 7A I will refuse SBP offer [ Yeah I know but why? ] Because of my health problems. Without my pills I'm worthless even against some food. Focus on your weakest subject. Like me it's Geo. But my teacher said that I got a B this trial. See, you just need to brainwashed that brain to more onto weaker subject. I usually get C in geo because I'm the guy who likes to last minute study. I don't know why it felt that like I love panicking more then I go into my relax mode. But one thing for sure in my school that is there isn't many "Great Students". I'm still in the top 10 of the school Form 3 students. I still lose to my best friend. He mostly got 2nd out of everything What I'm trying to say is that study more and less play. But IMO play equal study equal grades equal. That's my belief. Don't follow my rules because not many people is like that. One thing for sure is that the only book that needs reference books all the time is Math. You forgot a Formula you're good as fcked up. Sejarah,BI,Geo and BM for me is just read the text book. Most of the question is based on that except for BI and BM you just need to know the Novels and Poems and stuff. In the end, all I'm trying to say is do your best for SPM. That one test is to determine your future. Are you a PMR candidate ? Little knowledge is dangerous . If you forget a formula in Maths , you're not as good as fcked up or whatever you were trying to imply . Maths is not about memorising formulas . It's about thinking , deriving and understanding them , abstract concepts , logic .
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maximR	Aug 1 2013, 09:24 PM Return to original view \| Post #16
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(IntensiveBytes @ Aug 1 2013, 09:03 PM) Well, I've elaborated towards what I want to learn. I do not have much interest in programming, more towards systems, hardware, and IT. No programming related. Maths would be important when it comes to coding say PHP, Javascript, C++, etc But well the only coding I do right now would be HTML and CSS, which, as of right now require no advanced or good Math skills. There are many different lines of skills and courses and whatnot when it comes to computer science, not everything requires any super-skilled/good Math or Science knowledge. (at least things related to real life like chemistry, astrology, the human body etc) As of right now, they're irrelevant to me, yes, maybe in the near future more relevant things will be included in our subjects and syllabuses, and I will definitely try to bring up my skills in them, but as of now, they seem pretty irrelevant. Oh well, they year will be ending soon and I will go to Form 4 next year, so maybe we'll see more relevant/important things for Computer Science. As for books, yes, I know I can just get them myself but I'd have to get my parent(s) to bring me to a bookstore since they're not always home and are quite busy with work. I could just get them myself no problem, but the only reason I mentioned by parents in my above post was because as of right now, places I could go to myself has ran out of stock when it comes to the books that I really would want to get, otherwise I'd probably get them myself a while ago and not bug my parents out. :/ To sum up, I would definitely love to enhance my skills in all my weak subjects, including the subjects I have a wrath/hatred feeling for, which I mentioned was "irrelevant". I've not reached to the situation where I've read/studied anything that seem relevant now, and like you mentioned, I will expect a whole lot of Maths and/or Science that will seem "relevant", but as of now, I'm not facing through that part(s) yet. So of course I do want to improve. Definitely will try to focus and study as much as I can for until SPM arrives. Form 3 Maths and Science seem totally irrelevant to me now, that's what I'm trying to say Please don't stick with that mindset . You know , when you were born , you were inherently interested in the world around you . Why is the sky blue ? Why do stars twinkle ? Why can't we fly ? As years have passed , our education system has slowly but effectively dulled your interest in Science . But you mustn't let it be that way . Sometimes you may find it frustrating to study Science . PMR Science has quite a lot to memorise , since you're asked to KNOW and REMEMBER the information ( fractional distillation , chemical reactions , functions and parts of the body , definitions of physical quantities and formulas ) . Remember that this is only temporal , and you must persevere . Things will get better in Form Four ( if you want to study in the Science Stream ) because for the first time in your life you will actually know why hydrogen gas is produced at the cathode when electrolysing water , how our kidney filters blood , why electric power = voltage X current and so on . I did my PMR in 2011 and got straight A's . I'm now a Science Stream student preparing for my SPM Trials , and have set my sights on reading Physics in uni . Any questions regarding SPM , feel free to PM me . I probably could help you with PMR but I must warn you that I'm a bit rusty .
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maximR	Sep 2 2013, 06:28 PM Return to original view \| Post #17
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(ChuckyHuntsYou @ Sep 2 2013, 06:19 PM) I have BM tips and KHB but I won't share because I paid RM150 to get all the tips. 70% accurate And what if they don't come out ? Nevermind you paid for it , make sure you don't do the same for SPM . Because these tips may sound like they will come out , in most cases , they won't , and if they do , only a few bits and pieces that would prove to be insignificant would pop out .
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maximR	Sep 3 2013, 07:46 PM Return to original view \| Post #18
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(ChuckyHuntsYou @ Sep 3 2013, 02:33 PM) The predictions was predicted by many professors from UM and some smk teacher, most of my seniors said those tips quite accurate. And their predictions are logic. Some chapter hasn't been in PMR for 5 years, so it is possible to come out this year. During 2006/7, some professionals predicted that it will come out bla bla bla in paper 2, and it's real! The following years, the team od professionals are growing fame through smk by selling workable, trustable, almost accurate tips to students. Do professors from UM set the questions for PMR ? 'Most of my seniors said those tips quite accurate' . How true is this claim ? Have you done research and analysed the questions yourself , or are you relying on here say from your seniors ? 'And their predictions are logic .' Define logic ? And how would 'logical' predictions relate to questions that will appear in the actual PMR ? 'Some chapter hasn't been in PMR for 5 years, so it is possible to come out this year. During 2006/7, some professionals predicted that it will come out bla bla bla in paper 2, and it's real! The following years, the team od professionals are growing fame through smk by selling workable, trustable, almost accurate tips to students.' As far as my memory serves me , there were concepts that were always spotted to appear in the exam , but never came out . So are you really sure that the correlation between the frequency of a chapter's appearance in exam to the chance of it coming out in this year's exam is high ? During 2011 ( the year I took my PMR ) , there were many 'professionals' who spotted all kinds of questions --- to no avail . I'm fortunate that I didn't rely on those tips because if I did , I wouldn't have been able to work through the questions with ease . If the tips are so accurate , why would the 'professionals' not share it with all students ? Why sell them instead ? Isn't knowledge supposed to be shared , to stimulate young minds , in accordance with our National Education Policy ? Cheers !
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maximR	Sep 8 2013, 05:51 PM Return to original view \| Post #19
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(Derps @ Sep 8 2013, 05:40 PM) Finding help for sejarah >< I can't memorize so many ! I only able to absorb a little bit for all the chapter only . Anyone can help mee ? :< Why can't you ? There are so many people who can , and have managed PMR Sejarah with an A . Only you can help yourself .
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maximR	Sep 8 2013, 10:49 PM Return to original view \| Post #20
Remember who you are Senior Member 3,864 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(ChuckyHuntsYou @ Sep 8 2013, 08:28 PM) Hey guys, I bought the pilot Frixion pen for RM6.90 It says "Do not use it on legal documents and examinations" Because this kind of pen's ink would disappear if reaches surrounding temperature of 60 degrees Celsius. == Why can't you just get a normal ball point pen ? Are you willing to take risks for an exam that you think is important ? If the answer is no , get yourself some common ball point pens and start training yourself to cancel words / mistakes --- it's not that hard . Or are you too afraid of making mistakes , if that's the case , don't be , because people learn from mistakes .
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