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azbro
post Feb 15 2013, 11:00 AM

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+300km is a problem...not about the engine...but about the warranty issues...pls check if it will void some warranty...or maybe later stage, not qualified to get extended warranty. I know many Peugeot 308 owners also kena same thing. they exceeded a bit more than 300km, when its time to get an extended warranty, after check the service booklet, all didn't qualify.

So pls check with your service center on the terms.
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post Feb 15 2013, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Feb 15 2013, 11:00 AM)
+300km is a problem...not about the engine...but about the warranty issues...pls check if it will void some warranty...or maybe later stage, not qualified to get extended warranty. I know many Peugeot 308 owners also kena same thing. they exceeded a bit more than 300km, when its time to get an extended warranty, after check the service booklet, all didn't qualify.

So pls check with your service center on the terms.
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wow seriously? 300km is peanut distance actually. Those who do sales will agree with me.
300km can be covered in 1 single short trip. So car manufacturers are punishing their customers like this now?
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post Feb 15 2013, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Feb 15 2013, 11:29 AM)
wow seriously? 300km is peanut distance actually. Those who do sales will agree with me.
300km can be covered in 1 single short trip. So car manufacturers are punishing their customers like this now?
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Yes, 300Km easy to cover, but each manufacturer have their own terms and condition, you better check with yours.
Its not about punish or what...its because it says so...
I also have problems keeping to the limit, but sometimes I go even earlier by 200km.


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post Feb 15 2013, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Feb 15 2013, 12:37 PM)
Yes, 300Km easy to cover, but each manufacturer have their own terms and condition, you better check with yours.
Its not about punish or what...its because it says so...
I also have problems keeping to the limit, but sometimes I go even earlier by 200km.
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they not flexible at all. horrible.
in this case, if we send the car for servicing much earlier, will it void warranty too?
say TS case, car done 500km. next service 1000km, but he send it in for servicing now. will void warranty if he does the next at 5500km or 6000km?
seems like a chicken-egg first problem. seriously 300km (or 500km) is really peanut distance

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post Feb 15 2013, 01:49 PM

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TSRootOfJesse
post Feb 15 2013, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Feb 15 2013, 09:25 AM)
No problem one la.
Just dont keep on the same speed for too long. Example, 110kmh, then lower to 90kmh, then alternate it.
On a side note, I read about "power run-in" that actually to stress the engine during break-in period is actually healthy and better.
I forgot where is the link already.
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 15 2013, 10:03 AM)
no worries la...some people actually use long distance drives to help reach that 1000km mark sooner...i did exactly that too when i first rebuilt my engine.

keep revs below 4k n ull be fine....and as mentioned...vary ur revs n speed
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Thanks for the reassurance notworthy.gif

Many ppl give different opinions, but I think just drive like how I'd normally drive..
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post Feb 15 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(RootOfJesse @ Feb 15 2013, 03:23 PM)
Thanks for the reassurance notworthy.gif

Many ppl give different opinions, but I think just drive like how I'd normally drive..
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Yes, just drive like you normally do, but remember to vary the speed and rev from time to time, dont stick to 110kmh all the way.
Car run-in also involve other moving parts of a car, not just the engine. So varying your speed helps the car run-in properly.
Have a safe trip, bro.
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post Feb 15 2013, 03:33 PM

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i guess no necessary for engine break-in with high rev and just drive as usual...

another reasons for the 1st 1000km service is due to the engine's metal debris may left out in the engine internal compartment while building the engine and after some friction internally while running... as i can recall gearbox oil required for replacement when 10000km even though can last for 30000km...

hence the new car may store in stockyard for 3-6 months and engine oil quality will degrade even though the new car no in use, that how the reasons of the engine oil statement of "5000km / 3months come first"...

anyway, i suggest service earlier before reach 1000km instead...
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post Feb 15 2013, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Feb 15 2013, 03:26 PM)
Yes, just drive like you normally do, but remember to vary the speed and rev from time to time, dont stick to 110kmh all the way.
Car run-in also involve other moving parts of a car, not just the engine. So varying your speed helps the car run-in properly.
Have a safe trip, bro.
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will have to press the pedal harder to rev it up, since the rpm refuse to go higher than 3k even at high speed.

Thanks for the tips bro smile.gif
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post Feb 15 2013, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Feb 15 2013, 03:33 PM)
i guess no necessary for engine break-in with high rev and just drive as usual...

another reasons for the 1st 1000km service is due to the engine's metal debris may left out in the engine internal compartment while building the engine and after some friction internally while running... as i can recall gearbox oil required for replacement when 10000km even though can last for 30000km...

hence the new car may store in stockyard for 3-6 months and engine oil quality will degrade even though the new car no in use, that how the reasons of the engine oil statement of "5000km / 3months come first"...

anyway, i suggest service earlier before reach 1000km instead...
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Haha..that's what I thought too, the metal debris may contaminate the engine oil....At the end of the day, it's subjective and different people has different experience and opinion.. Like you said, follow instruction to service before 1000km will be the safest bet.
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post Feb 15 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(RootOfJesse @ Feb 15 2013, 03:43 PM)
Haha..that's what I thought too, the metal debris may contaminate the engine oil....At the end of the day, it's subjective and different people has different experience and opinion.. Like you said, follow instruction to service before 1000km will be the safest bet.
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is the 1k km service official in the booklet?

some cars now come with first service at 10k already, filled with full synthetic oil
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post Feb 15 2013, 03:55 PM

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I dunno how true is this but what i read online regarding breaking in is that nowadays cars do not need to wait after the first service to break in for the engine because the car manufacturers already did so before leaving the plant.

I myself tried to play it safe till the first service but when it was due to have my first service, i suddenly gatal and revved like mad for a good minute andw as guilty right after that. Lol that's why i did a search on it.

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post Feb 15 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 15 2013, 03:45 PM)
is the 1k km service official in the booklet?

some cars now come with first service at 10k already, filled with full synthetic oil
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wont be a risk if first service @ 10000km?

engine oil contained with metal debris wasn't sound good unless car manufacturer did the engine stress load and flushed with new engine oil before install engine in the new car... for me, i still stick to 1000km engine oil replacement at my own cost...

anyway, most of car manufacturer getting hoo-haa for longer service interval... such as Chevy Sonic service interval about 15000km / 9 months, unsure whether it is marketing skill to claim their car can save our money and time...

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post Feb 15 2013, 04:11 PM

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@gkl83: Common practice in Europe. European cars also tend to have servicing intervals of 25-35k there (Japanese 15k or longer). I don't think that's a problem for the engines, however during service also the other parts of the car are checked for upcoming problems. If that happens every 35k then most faults won't be detected in time, which makes the cars look unreliable.

5k is insanely frequent though, 10-15k is more than enough.
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post Feb 15 2013, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Feb 15 2013, 04:11 PM)
@gkl83: Common practice in Europe. European cars also tend to have servicing intervals of 25-35k there (Japanese 15k or longer). I don't think that's a problem for the engines, however during service also the other parts of the car are checked for upcoming problems. If that happens every 35k then most faults won't be detected in time, which makes the cars look unreliable.

5k is insanely frequent though, 10-15k is more than enough.
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service interval depending on engine oil type and oil filter quality...
but 5000km service interval with mineral engine oil guess is the old time "golden rules"
even though i using semi syc engine oil, still go for 5000km service interval as prefer new "blood" for my engine for it's healthy...

another doubts is whether oil filter can last 20k-30k km...
clogged oil filter will end up with dirty engine oil no filtered by opening the by-pass valve and may cause engine damages
unless the SC getting the real good quality oil filter then may go for longer service interval or replace it every 5000km

can see the video below from 4:00 onwards about the by-pass valve while oil filter clogged...


also no to mention about the environmental differences between European and Malaysia...
i guess Malaysia have worse environment pollution compare to European which engine oil dirty sooner....

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post Feb 15 2013, 04:39 PM

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then service in Kl la...still got plenty mitsubishi SC in kl what
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post Feb 15 2013, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Feb 15 2013, 03:45 PM)
is the 1k km service official in the booklet?

some cars now come with first service at 10k already, filled with full synthetic oil
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It's not written anywhere in the service book. Not mentioning the service booklet is very thin and only has 1 free service blank receipt on it..


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post Feb 15 2013, 08:58 PM

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If u have 1970s' car like mine, sure need to tippy toe after full overhaul like new engine la. But new engine all the tolerances are so precise, and the engine oils are so good, there is almost no need to run in already.
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post Feb 16 2013, 09:23 PM

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Dont worry. When i collect my civic fd 1.8, i already floor the pedal to speed 220kmh on the same day.

And recently i collected another new car, 1st week already went outstation.
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post Feb 16 2013, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(gunh @ Feb 16 2013, 09:23 PM)
Dont worry.  When i collect my civic fd 1.8, i already floor the pedal to speed 220kmh on the same day.

And recently i collected another new car, 1st week already went outstation.
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I tot you said in another thread only 210km/h is achievable?

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