Hi sifus,

Need your opinion on the above matter. I cant make up my mind to either get the POLO GTI or SCIROCCO TSI. Hopefully some owner can enlighten me with this matter. By the way I am looking to buy a 2nd hand unit. At the moment, still don't have kids yet.

there is a 1.4 GTI engine?

I thought Polo is only 1.2TSI or 2.0GTI

hahaha....Polo GTI is using a 1.4 engine la. if 2.0 the car will be a rocket already.

haha.. he must be confused between golf GTI and polo GTI liao..

This post has been edited by ZaiZai1989: Feb 7 2013, 05:36 PM

guess so. but is ok. hehehehe. I previously thought polo GTI is a 2.0 engine too.

hehe.. if really 2.0.. then will be like what u mentioned b4 liao... fly like a rocket.. haha

p/s: previously i has the same mistake too XD

Polo GTI is using the same 1.4 TSI engine, different is the engine is tuned for higher power, compare to other 1.4 TSI engine found on Golf and Scirocco.

having flashback after seeing this...my bad...

last time when i realized this i was scratching my head thinking why they put the Golf TSI engine in Polo and named it GTI

yes. thats why it come with a badge of GTI coz is specially tune higher. i know this coz my brother is driving a 1.4 TSI golf. it always put a smile when u accelerate even is a 1.4 TSI

I would say go for the scirocco. The look wins, and that's in my opinion. Aside from that, the 1.4 TSI in the scirocco can tune up too. What other interesting stuff that makes you consider Polo GTI?

pricing is cheaper and is with 4 door. but size wise is quite small. just like a viva. and polo GTI comes with DRL embedded with the head light.

Scirocco has the looks, but still polo gti has better performance,, higher tuned in torque n bhp, 0-100 smoke de scirocco,,

anyway, if face value matter, scirocco is much more outstanding in terms of looks,, especially if u wanna impress ppl who dun know about cars, bcos ordinary ppl dunno wat is polo tsi n gti,, some ppl tot polo n golf is de same,, having scirocco, even datuk nenek know it looks sporty,,

saying its like viva too underestimate it,, its a b segment comparable to myvi,, putting a boot behind polo which is de polo sedan you can see its comparable to honda city n vios,, but putting a boot behind viva, it doesnt look bigger to compete with vios,,
vw has another line up call VW Up! that is comparable to city cars like viva, alto, i10,, but Up! is not available here yet

scirocco is ugly. especially the rear that looks deformed from all angles except when view dead ahead.

well... looks are subjective anyway, but i go for the polo gti for its performance.

automotive rule numero uno:
better look inconspicuous and smoke others than to look flashy but be smoked all day long

So, the main purpose of buying a car is smoking each other?
What about those Prancing Horse or Skylines driving in the middle lane? If you overtake them in a Myvi, can you claim that you actually
smoked them?
I'll take the better handling and aesthetic Scirocco 1.4TSI any day and drive leisurely without lane hogging or hopping.
There are always others which are much faster. Sepang and Speed City is there for a reason.

ya i take it leisurely sometimes. but occasionally when the power is needed. i think a 1.4 TSI can do its job by smoking most of the car except for supercar like GTR or ferrari.

You missed out on Proton and Perodua on turbos. And few other drivers with plastic titanium balls

hahahaha......anyway i get powerful car is not for racing.....thats not my purpose.....usually if they cucuk i will let them pass.....coz i only wanna enjoy my ride....

+ 1 !
Good driver

Get the scirocco if ur young and single. Chicks will cOme to u. It's super sexy car

what for lawan with them.....exhaust so dam loud......

Not to smoke each another. I think if everyone behave and give way on the road, it'll be leisure for more people.
Like today, I was going fast and approaching a two-door benz near PWTC, I did not signal or aggressive. He saw me coming, signals and move to middle lane. Thumbs up to him.
He can choose to smoke me if he wants to, but he just wants to drive leisurely and give way immediately.

yes you are totally rite. driving a powerful car doesn't mean I need to smoke everyone....hahahha....

I do not try to smoke ppl but I get tonnes of cars trying to smoke me (mainly Myvi n Proton and the occasional IS250).
of coz I let them pass coz I slow driver.
Golf n Audi drivers I encounter mostly civilized drivers, all driver slow slow.

btw get the roc for the looks.
some say butt is ugly ( I think only certain angle) but every other angles looks way better than PGTI, no offense to PGTI owners. I also like the rear look of the Polo TSI/GTI. But I prefer Roc more , CC the best IMHO if you only refer to VWs.
unfortunately some VW SC sucks big time.

hahahaha...normal la.....some satria neo also like to cucuk me.....I also lazy to tekan la.....even I know I tekan I can outrun them.....hahahaha.....let them feel proud with their car la.....hahaah.....

well... looks is subjective anyway. and i think if its ugly, it better be fast. lol... still... my bad about the smoking issue. i stand corrected

no issue bro.....I don have titanium balls like those modified car to chase Ferrari or lambo.hahahahaha...... so I will give way to them and touch wood they don fly to heaven.....hahahahaha......

Yes there is. And it cost a whooping RM160k !

Polo Gti is ugly, expensive (in relative to size) and small like kancil. I think TS should compare Golf Gti to Scirocco instead. However, hands down Scirocco wins in terms of looks. I think the mkt price for Scirocco is above RM200k. Dunno about second hand though.

Its just that the Scirocco doesnt have LED DRL's..

there are two versions of the ROC. 1.4tsi (rm189k, 160hp, 7sp dsg, 17" rims, fabric seats) and 2.0tsi (rm244k, 210hp, 6sp dsg, 18" rims, leather seats).

This post has been edited by mavericksam: Feb 8 2013, 08:39 PM

The R will have....hahhahahah........

When it was launched in Malaysia, only 130k++ then they increase to 160k. Imagine those who bought at 130k and selling it 2nd hand at higher price. Really Malaysia boleh :/

no choice lo.....coz those owner actually waited for quite some time for the car also.....they untung to drive lo....coz now 2nd hand is around the price that they bought.....hehehehe....

actually is not VW wanna increase.....i think is from the government.

my bro is driving a golf 1.4 TSI. actual price on AP is RM100k only. Tax take up 50% of the actual price. Which make it RM160k++ on the road. hahahaha.... what is this la....

This post has been edited by mgihty_arsenal: Feb 8 2013, 11:51 PM

yup.. you sure know a lot about VW cars .. cant even understand the models, price range and even the size...

http://www.livelifedrive.com/malaysia/new-...lkswagen/page:2

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Feb 9 2013, 12:25 AM

hhaahahah.....chill bro....hehehehe.....it took me some time before i understand all the difference......

Frankly speaking, I don't know much about VW cars.

But this is as much I know, VW cars in Malaysia are overpriced. VW is a family car brand in Europe, Australia and USA but only in Malaysia, its treated like a luxury car. Gosh.

And beware of spare part replacements. If you get into an accident, *touch wood*, it may take weeks before the body parts arrive.

all cars in msia are overpriced.. VW priced premium is normal in oversea such as UK, Taiwan etc... in Europe, VW is consider premium over its rival (ford, peugeot) and also more expensive compare to its sister brand Skoda and SEAT... You can verify this by checking prices between Polo GTi, Fabia VRS and Ibiza cupra in UK..
Other countries might get cheaper VW models due to entry specs (non TSI and manual stick).. US uses NA engines and stick(small cc with turbo is less popular in US).. The spec we get are decent (not entry).. TSI and DSG dont come cheap.. In VW China is cheaper because of JV with locals and India get the entry specs with cheap plastic interior.. we got the better interior in msia

Passat CKD can rival with Camry 2.4 and Accord 2.4, even Mazda6 2.0 is stepping into Passat pricing.. this shows VW can be relatively competitive when CKD is introduced...
Mind you VW is #6 in malaysia in 2012 interms of sales volume, even cheaper Peugeot and Ford cant keep up.. VW now #1 continental in msia
Plenty of sales coming from promo and pre-reg campaign.. thats where owners get bargain deals from VW.. You still can find a decent priced VW everynow and then...

Spares for non-national cars not cheap also... bcos even parts also have to be tax, thats takdir of msia citizens..
Want cheap spare parts, buy P1 and P2..

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Feb 9 2013, 05:54 PM

I just amaze as how VW can be more expensive than Skoda when Skoda is using the same Tsi and DSG technology.

In Australia, my friend got his Polo Gti for $35k (3 years ago), so what is so premium about the car? Ok granted that VW can charge higher than its other competitors because all their models (except the Polo Sedan) got turbo but besides that its just an ordinary car with better transmission.

VWs here are priced somewhere in between the Toyotas and the BMWs. Isn't that regarded as luxury car? For eg the Jetta, rm150k? Do you think its worth that price? It looks like a C-segment sedan car. I mind as well buy the Mazda CX-5 at that price range.

I was just trying to be humble about not knowing much about VW cars, but that doesn't mean I am noob about VW.

Premium not always same as Luxury... you pay a premium price for Honda Civic over Elantra.. y? bcos Civic is better refinement interms of engine and ride.. so is Honda luxury?

VW might not be as luxury as Beemer but finishing is ahead of its Japanese rivals. thats the premium you pay..

You pay a premium price for Oris, Hamilton, Mido which are much more expensive than Seiko and Orient, but Oris, Hamiltion and Mido are still far from categorizing itself to be same rank with Rolex and Omega... IWC could be Rolls Royce category..

the bottom line is... Premium not always same as Luxury...

1) Whether its a luxury or premium model, my opinion is that VW is still overpriced.

2) Come on, even the Polo Sedan is sold at rm99k? What is the justification for selling this car at this price? It doesn't have turbo, it doesn't even have vti.

3) Koreans are able to sell their cars and electronics cheaper than their Japanese counterparts because of the higher Yen. Besides we all know that UMW and Honda Malaysia are deliberately raising the prices because they apparently think their cars are more premium than korean cars. I do not think so.

But thats about to change because Japan is trying to devalue their Yen.

this sort of argument IMHO will never have an ending
its just like saying why buy Ford Fiesta where you can buy an Inspira or a Kia Forte for the same price, do you think its worth it?
and then you compare another model with another one.. Golf GTI vs BMW3 series.. VW not luxury brand, y same price close to Beemer 3 series.. VW CC vs Audi A4.. why 1 Honda Jazz where you can buy 2 Myvi? Honda Jazz in Japan is just like MyVi in Msia... VW in Germany just like Proton in Msia.. Peugeot 308T in France just like Preve in Msia.. why pay so much premium.. etc etc...
and then another one, and then another one
and the argument goes on and on and on and on.....

Spot on.... arent malaysian paying overprice for Toyota and Honda too.. if you argue the car price is expensive due to exchange rate, you are saying we are paying much more that its actual value..

Thus, as I said in my earlier post, we all pay overprice cars in msia...

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Feb 9 2013, 06:53 PM

My argument is about its over priceyness. So why not I use other models as a comparison?

Look, its unfair to compare Ford Fiesta to Inspira and Kia Forte, because I view them all at the affordability range (below rm90k). After all, you debated on the "premium price range", so you yourself have open the pandora's box for comparison for premium price range cars.

Whereas if I could afford the VW, I mind as well go for the better quality Volvo.

Look, VW prices are not that far off from Toyotas and Hondas in Australia, so why is it so premium here in Malaysia?

Yes almost all cars in msia are overpriced. Except the Proton Saga FLX, I wish all cars in Msia are priced like this car.

is there a guideline for "affordable range"? or you set it yourself that affordable range is <90k? affordable is very individual...
premium is relative pricing but not a range.... you pay a premium on something over another thing.. thats my arguement..

lolzzz.... nice discussion... time for reunion dinner... GongXiFaChai n Happy CNY....

bro i totally agree with you. a Honda Jazz can cost more than RM100k just because is CBU from thailand. Talking about assembling in Malaysia and thailand. i would say the quality of finishing is almost the same.

Ppl always say that is overpriced, this is overpriced. If something is overpriced ppl won't buy it and the company bungkus already.

If there are ppl buying and the company is thriving (i.e making a profit) then the product is priced correctly.

This post has been edited by sanadi: Feb 9 2013, 11:04 PM

If you think all is so expensive and cant afford to have one, stick with Malaysia boleh proton or myvi , enough said

That's funny. If I think something is overpriced doesn't mean I cannot afford one, it simply means I think it's better to spend the money on something else.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 9 2013, 11:56 PM

I not so rich lah, what to do.

If my salary is RM30k a month, then I can say the Polo Gti is affordable range.

It is overpriced for me because I not so rich ma. I am just the average consumer.

Of course got people buy these cars lah because I am sure there are those people who are rich man son.

Some people here are willing to buy a Lamborgini Murceliago for RM2million (am I right to say its around that price?) when you can get it in USA for (USD150k). Its affordable to them.

Still got other cars can afford ma besides proton.

Oh, I am never going to buy proton unless I want to start big family and need the Exora.

Vios, City, Forte, Elantra, Peogeot Vti, x-gear livinia, almera, sentra, jazz, insight, prius c, fiesta, ford ranger, mitsubishi triton, avanza, innova still within the affordable range.

TS rich la... no point telling TS "overprice"...

don say like that. i think no need RM30k per month to own a Polo Gti. i am not looking to get new one anyway.

lolzzz.... all the best with your choice.. y not wait till new golf mk7..

Got second hand Polo Gti meh? Hardly see any second hand Polo Sport leave alone a Polo Gti.

I think TS salary is at least RM10k or above per month. If you are paying 100% loan on 5 years, then you have to at least pay RM3k a month based on assumption of 2.5% interest.

Hahaha, totally agreed with you.

Between these two cars, I will opt for the Polo GTI because I just love the sunroof!

Che Rocco for me. although the Polo GTi IS a GTi, it is still a polo. too cramped for me and normal Polo can mod to look like polo gti.. scirocco is born and bred as a sporty 2-door.