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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V128, YAT YEE FATT !!!!

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post Mar 7 2013, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 04:48 PM)
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These poor shops can survive ah?  tongue.gif
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Maybe some underground business use these shops to do money laundering. tongue.gif That's why they still survive LOL

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post Mar 8 2013, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Mar 8 2013, 08:13 PM)
Thanks  smile.gif
Your Tambun also very good show today.

I also disposed Panamy today to change to Hua Yang.
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Don't like Panamy already?
I reckon everyone like this stock?
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post Mar 8 2013, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Mar 8 2013, 10:24 PM)
Slow.
I got the opportunity to dispose at 21 and still make a small profit.
So I decided to dump for a better counter.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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how long you have been holding this if you don't mind to tell me
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post Mar 8 2013, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Mar 8 2013, 11:18 PM)
Even I like the div, I still not yet on board in this counter. There are other better counters out there. Until most of them are fully valued, I will come back to big giants for the stability of the price. Until then, I will still Q low low to try take a swipe on this counter.
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Thanks for your input biggrin.gif

QUOTE(taobaoong @ Mar 8 2013, 11:19 PM)
I am interested on this..Can PM me?
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You should ask other, I don't have much clue on this counter.
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post Mar 9 2013, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Mar 9 2013, 01:28 AM)
I bought some to average down during the 19s, making my ABP around 20.30.
For duration I guess you can easily dug it up, but it's around somewhere nearby November last year.
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No intention going for long term ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Mar 9 2013, 10:50 AM)
Waiting for price to drop further, hopefully until end of this month, where fresh supply of money coming in  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 9 2013, 09:25 AM)
Very strange.
When earnings was diving to the deep end, all want to buy cos of dividends.  tongue.gif
Now when earnings shows signs of improvement, no one interested?  biggrin.gif

The power of group thinking....  laugh.gif
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Looking solely on dividend yield is indeed quite short sighted in my opinion.
But this is how the market works right, if not why so many panic sell/panic buy happened on particular stocks.
Confidence on particular stocks need so many years to reassure investor didn't choose the wrong dividend stocks.
Once the confidence is shake, you can see overvalued blue chips being dumped like no tomorrow. Once confidence regain after few months, all panic buy again.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 12 2013, 05:09 PM)
Must be Japanese Ramen laugh.gif
Indeed spending habit for middleclass has change a lot
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I don't mind to pay that price if the standard is like japanese standard. drool.gif
Anyone currently holding NTPM? I just realize actually I am using a lot of their product.

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Mar 12 2013, 06:32 PM)
Laosai a lot?  biggrin.gif
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tongue.gif ,no la. Beside for toilet, they have some other product too.
Their premier tissue have a little branding power.
Some people do bring the handkerchief tissue all the time.
But this business don't have much pricing power.
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post Mar 13 2013, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2013, 12:43 PM)
Dividend investing is a good strategy, for constant 'safe' growth with overall lower risk. One should not be looking at purely dividend yield only for dividend investing. Also as a dividend investor, stock price is merely a guide for entry/exit.

BUT if you find a high yield, low PE, high FCF, good dividend growth and protected by 'moat'.. by all means sai lang... laugh.gif

In my opinion, the most important factor we should look at FCF growth and dividend growth. This means that the stock is able to grow it's dividend over time at a constant albeit slower rate of growth. This strategy has benefited many investor who prefer slow and steady growth.

These stocks have the capacity to ride the ups and downs of the market, as we can ignore the price as long as we are satisfied the dividends keep increasing year on year at a rate higher than inflation. These are truly long term holdings... IF you buy at the right price.  wink.gif
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Which stock you already sai lang? Mind to share?
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post Mar 13 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 13 2013, 12:57 PM)
My one very plain and simple, only buy the stock u feel comfortable with and able to hold for 3-5 years.

For example i'll to analyze by:
1.Business strategy apply by the management, compare it with the competitors, there must be a strength point for that company to become no.1 in that industry.
2.Management integrity, this one a bit hard for anchovies like us, but u can judge by news and corporate exercise.
3.Then look into financial data, business ratio etc.
4.Entry price, this one is very subjective. I buy in based on my six sense and observant on the graph, and sometimes the overall environment.

Just my own opinion on selection icon_rolleyes.gif
I still think that for a dividend investor, they should look at the yield instead of growth, let say set a benchmark of 6% and select from the list.
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For a non-citizen to buy a property in Singapore, the government will charge 30% stamp duty sweat.gif
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I like these method.
Personally I do invest like this in early stage. I always apply simple analysis (before buy), deep analysis after buy to avoid late anticipation.
If I dont like this stock, I will just sell it like usual trade.
Entry price, use simple valuation and sixth sense. Afte buy, try to access its downward risk. If I like the entry price, will buy more. If I realise my sixth sense is over confident or wrong, I keep or sell it.
Personally think way,in my opinion can win more , loss less.
I wish to find something like WB stocks, forever no need to sell.But my condition is more stict, need to be substantive undervalued compared to its share price, but at the same time I expect it will grow for decades for non-stop.

Really fun to discuss with u guys biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2013, 01:18 PM)
Wah, I say if you get such stock.. so far don't dare to sai lang... sweat.gif
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Sai lang I don't think people will dare la.
Put majority of their net worth? tongue.gif
So far personally never sai lang in certain stock. But keep buying and buying and buying and buying..... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 13 2013, 01:32 PM)
The world economy should be booming n yr pocket is full.

Many are betting on the constant factor ...........where there is a short supply in the world .

Anyway, thanks for sharing yr thought with us.
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Personally I do think some stock really grow non stop for decades.
Look at Dow Jones man, It grow and compound non stop from its decades ago.
But remember that, throughtout the few decades, there are many stocks banckrupt and gone, clearly the index are lead by numberous of REally good stock that compound non stop even until currently.( after remove the effect of new listing and bankruptcy throught the decades.)
So indeed the are stocks beat dow jones index by more than 3-5 times (in cumulative way throughout the decades of the total return) and give generous return.

Just my noobie thinking.
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 13 2013, 01:34 PM)
U sound like Fed Ben, with unlimited money . hmm.gif
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LOL, small portfolio only compared to sharks here. sad.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2013, 01:46 PM)
Dow Jones is not a constantly growing stocks.. laggard stocks are usually removed and better stocks put into the Dow Jones index. Over the years the Dow Jones index has probably changed more stocks constituents than you change underwear... A lot of the stocks in the creating of the index is no longer then, either bankrupt or merged out.
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Yea, my aim is to spot those will remain decades in their respective country main index.
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2013, 01:53 PM)
Dow Jones September 14, 1929
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Dow Jones September 14, 2012
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Big difference eh?  whistling.gif
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maybe u should compared to 1960's to 1970's one.I think more relevant.
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2013, 02:05 PM)
As you wish..

Dow Jones June 1, 1959
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Only GE & dupont survived from 1960 to 2012... ohmy.gif
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maybe S&P 500 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2013, 04:55 PM)
But around the world the OPR rates is at record low, sooner or later the rates need to be raised, it cannot stay low forever...and also most country is at max already and cannot go any lower unless some genius comes up with negative OPR rates.  laugh.gif

IMHO I am thinking bonds, property & reits is now approaching bubble status due to artificially low interest rates.
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Couldn't agree more nod.gif , Coming decade is an era of inflation. Holding asset is the best way to hedge inflation.
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Mar 13 2013, 05:27 PM)
doh.gif  In the end only -10 points. Hardly a correction.
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yawn.gif , pointless to predict where market going everyday.
Want to buy some also hard if like this cry.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2013, 05:50 PM)
Japan is going to implode sooner or later.. debt to GDP ratio is like 250%... and counting.

Yes Japan has zero rate for 2 decades, but the stock market, property prices etc has not stopped FALLING for 2 decades...since 1980's.  doh.gif

In fact the government is struggling to TARGET minimum 2% inflation... what a joke already.  laugh.gif
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Economy is contracting year by year.That's the price of using cheap interest to save the whole collapsed economy.The wound was too deep. sweat.gif

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