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post Feb 6 2013, 02:39 AM, updated 13y ago

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Greeting folks, I'm planning to change my rims to another style and color with different specs and I'm confused at the choices I have.

Currently, the spec of the tyre (GoodYear Eagle F1 GS-D3) that I'm using is 225/45/R17 on a 17"x7JJ ET45 rims.
The tread on the tyre is still very fresh even after 2 years of using it, I did only 20k-25k on the tyre so it'd be a waste to change the tyre so soon.

So what I'm thinking now is, how will the tyre looks like if, say I change it to a 17"x8.5JJ ET35 rims, will there be any problems? I have always thought that the tyre looks too big for a 7JJ rims and as a result it looks very odd, the rims "sinks" into the tyre lol. Also I want the wheel to be aligned with the fender and I'm installing a 330mm big brake kit soon, thus the ET35. I am aware that doing so will potentially cause the tyre to rub on the fender but that's not my main concern, yet.

Finally, I am totally new to the rims/tyre market in Klang/Rawang/Kepong. I stay in Kepong but I heard that buying rims or tyre are much cheaper in Klang/Rawang. So it'd be great if anyone can point me to the right direction biggrin.gif

Thank you!

This post has been edited by awyongcarl: Feb 19 2013, 11:57 AM
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post Feb 6 2013, 10:42 PM

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8.5 width is a bit too wide for 225 tires. You'll have no more protection of the rims lips. For 225 tires, better use no more than 8 inch width. If you want to use 8.5, then minimal use 235 tires. I myself use 245 for 8.5 width, looks just nice and still offers good protection for the rims.
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post Feb 8 2013, 12:35 AM

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Noted guys, thank you very much for the input!
I'm just curious how will the wheel (225 on a 8.5JJ) looks like lol
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post Feb 10 2013, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Feb 8 2013, 12:35 AM)
Noted guys, thank you very much for the input!
I'm just curious how will the wheel (225 on a 8.5JJ) looks like lol
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The tire will start to get stretch just a bit/the sidewall is already quite straight or even inward a bit compared with the rim lip. If your tires have some extra rubber special protection for rim lip, then might still be ok.
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post Feb 11 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Feb 10 2013, 01:28 AM)
The tire will start to get stretch just a bit/the sidewall is already quite straight or even inward a bit compared with the rim lip. If your tires have some extra rubber special protection for rim lip, then might still be ok.
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Inward? Wouldn't the sidewall be pulled outward as the rim is too wide?
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post Feb 13 2013, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Feb 11 2013, 01:46 PM)
Inward? Wouldn't the sidewall be pulled outward as the rim is too wide?
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Yeah I mean that. smile.gif
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post Feb 19 2013, 12:00 PM

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Ahh after doing a little bit more reading I found the terms that I have been looking for to ask lol..

It's something called "Tyre stretching". So those "balloon-ish" look wheel is due to the very skinny tyre on a very large width (jj) wheel..

I've got to ask, is 215/40/R17 on a 17x8JJ wheel considered as stretched? (minimal or mildly stretched?)
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post Feb 19 2013, 12:40 PM

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http://tyrestretch.com/8_215_40_R17/

doesnt look that stretched to me...
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post Feb 19 2013, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 19 2013, 12:40 PM)
http://tyrestretch.com/8_215_40_R17/

doesnt look that stretched to me...
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I see, so I suppose I will downgrade back to 215 (since 225 rubs on the fender..) and buying a new set of 17x8jj rims.
Thanks biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2013, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Feb 19 2013, 12:00 PM)
Ahh after doing a little bit more reading I found the terms that I have been looking for to ask lol..

It's something called "Tyre stretching". So those "balloon-ish" look wheel is due to the very skinny tyre on a very large width (jj) wheel..

I've got to ask, is 215/40/R17 on a 17x8JJ wheel considered as stretched? (minimal or mildly stretched?)
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215 on 8' wide is not quite stretch yet but already at the border/starting to stretch, will be very even between the tire and rim and almost no protection anymore of the rim lip. For 215 tire, better use 7.5' or 7' rims. For 8' rims still better to use 225 minimum.
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post Feb 22 2013, 04:09 PM

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Uh guys so I bit the bullet and went for a 17x9 ET25 rims lol.
Just thought you guys might be interested, Here is how it looks like.

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post Feb 22 2013, 04:48 PM

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needs moar low
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post Feb 22 2013, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 22 2013, 04:48 PM)
needs moar low
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If it gets anymore lower it is not going to be drivable =.="
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post Feb 23 2013, 12:21 AM

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Hehehe donuting already dude! If not for the add-on fender extension, it would be really out of the fenders as well.

Agree, it's still a bit high but if lowered then the tires will kiss the fenders. Very nice looking car though. Must be pretty fast too ha?
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post Feb 23 2013, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Feb 23 2013, 12:21 AM)
Hehehe donuting already dude! If not for the add-on fender extension, it would be really out of the fenders as well.

Agree, it's still a bit high but if lowered then the tires will kiss the fenders. Very nice looking car though. Must be pretty fast too ha?
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Yeah lol. It was the wheel arch addon that makes 7JJ looks very hideous haha.
Well I could get adjustible to make the suspension much stiffer to tackle the fender kissing problem..But that's going to sacrifice the comfort greatly. And given that I usually drive alone, don't really need to change the suspension yet lol.
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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Feb 22 2013, 08:00 PM)
If it gets anymore lower it is not going to be drivable =.="
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post Mar 9 2013, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Feb 22 2013, 04:09 PM)
Uh guys so I bit the bullet and went for a 17x9 ET25 rims lol.
Just thought you guys might be interested, Here is how it looks like.

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boss, what is your tire size/width? 225/45?
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post Mar 10 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(BlackThyra87 @ Mar 9 2013, 08:15 PM)
boss, what is your tire size/width? 225/45?
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Yes as stated it's a 225/45/R17
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post Mar 13 2013, 07:00 PM

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nice. im currently using 17x8.5jj with 215/45. looks nice also. biggrin.gif

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This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Mar 13 2013, 07:28 PM

 

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