newbie newbie.looking for a new Nikon DSLR.my budget below 4k..any suggestions ?
My friends suggest me to buy D90..i tried google D90 just know and found that D90 was released at 2008..just wondering is that model (D90) already outdated ?
hmm..other than D90 is that any suggestion yet ?

don't you also buy the body only and the u buy the 2nd hand lens afterward?
just worry for the qualify of the 2nd hand lens as we dunno how the owner take care about the lens.

I saw my name. Whats up ?

For DSLRs, you can choose to purchase only the body (without the lens) OR body + lens. However, the more budget DSLRs often come with a 18-55mm lens, which is not very good..
For starters, try to get either the D3200/ D5200(the prices in Nikon's website are a lot more expensive ) with 18-105mm lens since its more versatile 

I m still new to use DLSR..btw, may i know what do u mean by  (try to avoid the 18-55 kitlens though)? can explain?

So best if go for 18-105mm lens? apology if i asked alot of questions 

i didnt get the kits lens like 18-55 or 18-105 when i bought my 1st camera, which is d90.
i terus hamtam tamron 17-50, although it is not a good lens, but budget la
and i get another 50mm 1.8 together, bundled price ma.
after that, a fren of mine also purchase a d90 with 18-105 kit lens, then i boro play play, really not my cup of tea D:
when zoom it at 105, the aperture is already 5.6, so dark man
and the focuses quite slow lol, as slow as my tamron
no offense to kits lens tho, peace

actually my friend told me similiar thing.. he said.. 18-55mm on D7000 is sharper than 18-105mm. lol. is that even possible?

Already have 28-300mm!

Now aiming D600!  

Awww... I is feeling sad for my 18-105mm liao man haha 
The zooming is more suitable with sunlight... under dim conditions, its pretty bad when paired with the D90 

The 18-105mm, though I do not understand how it works, gives good bokeh at 105mm right? 

newbie newbie  

ask you something about dslr as i'm planning to get one for myself.
normally people will upgrade or change their dslr after using how many years? or it depend on the person? mean did u ever see people stick with the same model camera more than 5 years?..coz i always think that why we need to change the camera if the camera still working well or let say once we get bored with the lens we still can buy another lens right ? or the camera can actually use for few years and after few years it will occur many problem ? as i know once we take good care of it even 10 years also not a problem.. 
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coz my own opinion. once i bought camera i think i will stick with the camera for 4 years or more unless there occurs problem on my camera. otherwise i will only change the lenses once i get bored instead of changing camera ? do you agree with my opinion ? 
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might tell me before this most long that u stick with ur camera is how long ? 

probably jam shutter

never experience so far
coz you should have already upgraded your body before you know it

so much text! photos spam pls!

50mm f1.8 VS 18-105mm i have bet with a friend and WIN that 105mm does better bokeh when shooting the same subject in the frame (not d same focal length though)
that costs him his SB700 to me hahaha

yah, i agree with @[email=ifer]ifer[/email] also, im just happy that i have a camera to shoot with.. sharing moments with the world..

Agito666 the 1st shot looks like clam?
masak with broccoli?

eh why didnt forum automatic merge these posts?

In reply to ImBoYbOy's PM...

If you want to buy a dslr and want to use it longer, buy one that is at least more capable of using most lenses with AF..the first time you buy, in Nikon's case.. buying a dslr with a built in motor eg. d90 etc..

It depends on people.. i have a friend who used his D40x dslr for years now without upgrading.. another d70s for around 5 years already..some stick with their dslr but added another dslr to be used. some just upgrade their lenses..

There is really no NEED to upgrade for MOST people who are using it as a hobbyist, serious enthusiast etc...

but for me and others who are fulltime working photographers, we will upgrade if there is a NEED TO depending on what our jobs requirements are or ADD more gear later on or if our equipment fails to the point of no return.

I would say that most upgrade because they just have money and they WANT the next best thing...

NEED VS WANT .. you choose

you asked how long it will last .. it will last long if you take care of it.. but sometimes things happen and it could fail.. but no worries..

once my friend accidentally knocked a glass full of coffee onto my camera... then i WASH..i mean really wash it under running tap water without taking the battery off...washed it for around 5 full minutes...btw my dlsr camera attached to a 70200 totalling around RM12k .. it survived my madness.. but dont do it to yours..seriously..

I just reply one sentence

Different people, different perspective

Don't tell me you shoot a self portrait with a D70s on the mirror?

i think Agito666 is a true hipster..
before hipster exist he oredy shoot like dat..

nowadays also like dat, lots of n00b when got their new SLR sure will tayang2 with shoot like dat...

hahaha if u got camwhoring also okay mah..
nowadays i see kids bringing SLR to school and for jalan2 at mall.. shooting direct popup flash to the face hahaha

makes me feel old.. during my time starting using SLR around 2005 it was considered luxury to own SLR; i remember FM2 being superly hot chick magnet. everywhere u bring sure will got chicks ask u to shoot them ha ha ha

now even kids have their own sLR, they see u using then ask u "abang, boleh ajar saya kah macamana mau shoot pakai ni kamera supaya tidak blur"
i was like.. what? buy camera 1st then learn later!! how lucky kids nowadays..

... and look at where you are now   

im confused. choose s3 or one X? or get a cheapo one n get a new prime?? haha