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post Feb 4 2013, 05:19 PM

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Here's a good read:
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Guide to avoiding the banhammer!

*If you collect cards, safest is to collect cards you think you wont ever use as lvl 1 cards.

*Always use Trade no matter if you trade with your own account or other. Gifting is like poison, the bot seem to be programmed to scan for abnormal amount of gifting.

*Never collect skillstones, these are meant to be kind of rare. Having many (3-5 per skillston...e) could result in a ban if rest of account have something else that raise flag. Statstones isnt that sensitive, but having to much isnt good either.

*Never have 2 of the exact same (especially not stoned same) lvl 60 guardians, this is more or less instant ban. Your account will be seen as a duper/seller.

*An illicit card is always illicit. It just takes time sometime for server to notice it. So just because you have traded it once it is not safe 100%. If that was the case, then the makers of illicit wouldnt be able to send it either. It is possible to make undetected cards. I know people that have been doing this for 5 months and sent out to close to 1000 people. Noone have ever been banned because of those cards. Many like to spread rumors about self made duped/hacked cards, do not believe them as they have no experience on the subject.

*The only way to get banned for having a self made card is if it is Illicit. Illicit cards is ALOT more dangerous than duped and hacked cards was before 1.1. Before 1.1 SE could not detect these cards, now they can detect badly made ones (illicit) and this makes trading ALOT more dangerous than it ever was. So make sure to take nessecary steps to protect yourself.

*ONLY way to notice if a card is illicit is to TRADE (or gift, but avoid that) the card. When the server have noticed that a card is illicit you get a popup saying "Illicit guardian cross card detected" when you try to trade it. This doesnt show when you enter coli or stone it, only when you try to trade.

*Any new card you get that you do not really feel you can trust, first put a cheap stone on it to force server update, do this BEFORE trying to trade it. It doesnt matter if card was stoned when you got it, that could be premade stoning that came with the dupe/hack.
Make sure to TRADE (not gift since that raises other flags) it around between accounts after you have stoned it, do it again after 12-24 hours. A illicit card (badly made hacked card) can take up to two days and many trades before it shows as illicit. Its not always instant.

*DO NOT ENTER COLISEUM WITH A CARD YOU SUSPECT! Test it for two days first. Entering coli with a bad card is the fastest way to get banned.

*If you are unlucky and get a illicit card from some shady figure, use it to feed to a 1-3 star card. Then when that is done, sell that card for GP. Not sure if this works but atleast it is something. Dont feed it to a lvl 4-5 star since those cant be sold for GP, it may leave some trace.

*Avoid trading cards, helping people complete their catalouge or whatever reason they have for trading, unless you know the person very well and trust them. It is VERY easy to make a illicit card, so people who cant make a safe card, seem to make illicit and then trade with you to get your safe card and you get a nice hot banhammer. Some people do not seem to care about others at all.

*Never use cheats of any kind, especially not in coliseum.

*If you have a suspicious looking accounnt, dont aim to get number one in coli. Just settle for a rank 100-200.

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*Dont have only Aces in the account, some cards you should have as other types aswell. Never ask to buy Ace Almighty or any other type than Cool Referal cards, these doesnt exist officially so if they spot it they know the card is not original. It helps to keep 200 guardians and maintain a low percentage of aces in your entire collection. As example having 50 aces in 200 is better than 50 aces out of 52 cards.

*Buy Coins a few times a month, the more you spend the better.  This seems to be a bigger factor than I initially thought. SE is 100% money when it comes to this game especially. They dont earn anything on the game unless people buy coins. Anyone doing good in coli that dont buy enough coins is bad for their business. So they dont care if they ban a account that play for free, they want money.
They dont have any evidence in the cards themself, if they are not Illicit they are undetectable. But they assume that a account that never bought coins and still have a full deck of very good Guardians, somehow cheated. They dont care how that free player got the cards, if its thru RMT, or making cards himself, or using cheats, or someone being nice and giving him cards, they just ban because that account is bad for business and hinder paying customers to advance in coli and be happy...
Remember, even if you follow this guide 100% you can still be banned. This will never be foolproof since SE is a bunch of humans, and humans are unpredictable. I do my best to add anything that seem to be a reason for ban, but I dont know what they will come up with tomorrow.

Ironically enough, this is from the same facebook page that is now selling the new 5* Guardians.https://www.facebook.com/GCIoJ

So like I said before. Hackers only need to wait on Monday when coli ends to duplicate the new almightys or new event guardians. Always be alert and be careful. My advice to you guys, avoid trading the new guardians. Except your own self-caught or trusted friends

Also, I don't actually believe that purchasing coins will protect yourself from ban and I don't believe SE will ban players who never buy coins.

This post has been edited by funnyTONE: Feb 4 2013, 05:21 PM
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post Feb 4 2013, 05:21 PM

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I got a cool great shiva from the coli, all cards from coli with type cool? OR it is random?

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post Feb 4 2013, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 4 2013, 05:19 PM)
Here's a good read:

Ironically enough, this is from the same facebook page that is now selling the new 5* Guardians.https://www.facebook.com/GCIoJ

So like I said before. Hackers only need to wait on Monday when coli ends to duplicate the new almightys or new event guardians. Always be alert and be careful. My advice to you guys, avoid trading the new guardians. Except your own self-caught or trusted friends

Also, I don't actually believe that purchasing coins will protect yourself from ban and I don't believe SE will ban players who never buy coins.
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I'll try to put it in a simpler format in our Tips & Guides

QUOTE(shiroikun @ Feb 4 2013, 05:21 PM)
I got a cool great shiva from the coli, all cards from coli with type cool? OR it is random?
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It's random, I got a fast one =)
Cool is neutral, neither bad nor good.
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post Feb 4 2013, 05:38 PM

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Guys, be alert if you received any free gift from SantaFox. He's a known duper who keeps sending illicit cards to unsuspecting players.

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post Feb 4 2013, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 4 2013, 05:38 PM)
Guys, be alert if you received any free gift from SantaFox. He's a known duper who keeps sending illicit cards to unsuspecting players.

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how come a known duper account still active like that? that's unfair!!
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post Feb 4 2013, 05:59 PM

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5III for ace max lvl vamp worth it? missed out on 6III for ace max lvl nara T__T
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post Feb 4 2013, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Feb 4 2013, 05:59 PM)
5III for ace max lvl vamp worth it? missed out on 6III for ace max lvl nara T__T
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I find that expensive.. Vamp should be able get around 2-3 (III) only
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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 4 2013, 06:02 PM)
I find that expensive.. Vamp should be able get around 2-3 (III) only
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thanks. offered 2II for ace vamp to a guy but i think he ignored my pm =P

but sad cos missed out on nara. oh well. smile.gif getting busy this week sad.gif but trying to more tradings. smile.gif

also tempted to get some coins too tongue.gif
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post Feb 4 2013, 06:04 PM

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Coli reward is S.Bird
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Feb 4 2013, 06:03 PM)
thanks. offered 2II for ace vamp to a guy but i think he ignored my pm =P

but sad cos missed out on nara. oh well. smile.gif getting busy this week sad.gif but trying to more tradings. smile.gif

also tempted to get some coins too tongue.gif
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Try search in slimes section. There will be cheap deals from time to time
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post Feb 4 2013, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(wings_silver @ Feb 4 2013, 05:53 PM)
how come a known duper account still active like that? that's unfair!!
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The problem is, when the card is freshly duped, the system can't detect. It takes a while for a the duped card to be detected. That's why sometimes even if you get a card from a reputable person or maybe even myself, the card may be detected as illicit when it finally reaches you.

It's like a time bomb, it can be gifted & traded around many time until suddenly it explodes. So it's best that you stay away from 5* ace from strangers.
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can normal S.bird reborn with great S.bird?
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post Feb 4 2013, 06:18 PM

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this i what i want to ask too
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QUOTE(oRoXoRo @ Feb 4 2013, 06:17 PM)
can normal S.bird reborn with great S.bird?
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I think it can't. bordered only can be with bordered cards.

but i could be wrong ;p

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post Feb 4 2013, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(oRoXoRo @ Feb 4 2013, 06:17 PM)
can normal S.bird reborn with great S.bird?
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I'm not sure as well but I agree with onelove89 that you can't.
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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 4 2013, 04:59 PM)
This week is almighty LL
do you want to trade your morigan? My ace morigan needs a partner. Maybe trade you titan and another?
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we all lyn help each other ge
but mine mori is coli locked
useful?
n not yet max lvl

@night
didn't receive trade yet lolz

since tradin is safer
lets all use trade
im only free at night lolz
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First let's start with explaining the rebirth system.
You combine two identical guardians. Same type + same guardian to rebirth it and it will become a new type unless it's ace/cool. If you choose to combine two different types the guardian will keep the original type so chaotic garg + ace garg = reborn chaotic garg. The guardian will keep it's stone boosts and gain the option to level up 10 more times along with a new skill at it's new level cap. Combining the guardians of the same type gives more than just the option to get a new skill and 10 more levels it also changes the type.
Ace + anything = Ace 10% boost to all stats
Cool + anything = Cool 0% boost to all stats
powerful x powerful => berserk (atk+15%, agi-15%)
brave x brave => hero (def+15%, mp-15%)
fast x fast => sonic (agi+15%, def-15%)
Int x Int => wise (wis+15%, atk-15%)
Chao x Chao => wild (hp+15%, wis-15%)
sexy x sexy => virgin (mp+15%, hp-15%)

Just from looking you still see that ace has a 10% stat boost all around while combining two of any other type just gives it a 5% boost/drop in their respective stat. So Ace might still be the best type overall.

Also these are just some of the new abilities certain guardians get

Apsara: AGI/WIS +10%
Azi Dahaka: DEF/WIS +10%
Frankenstein: DEF +25%
Gargantua: ATK +25%
Leviathan: Revive
Phoenix: ATK/WIS +10%
Titan: ATK +25%
Valkyrie: WIS +25%
Vampire Matron: AGI/WIS +10%

Agni: Self-Destruct
Bahamut: ATK/WIS +10%
Chariot: Quick Strike
Dominion: Might/Cunning +10%
Ettin: AGI/WIS +10%
Gilgamesh: AGI +25%
Ifrit: ATK +25%
Juggernaut: Quick Strike
Lightning Lord: WIS -20%
Mephistopheles: AGI/WIS +10%
Sucellus: ATK/WIS +10%

Atlas: Last Stand
Fujin: Revive
Morrigan: Last Stand
Blizzard Phoenix: AGI/WIS +10%
Procel: AGI/WIS +10%
Raijin: Revive
Shiva: AGI/WIS +10%
Stymphalian Bird: Quick Strike
Thor: ATK/DEF +10%

Banshee Serenade: DEF/AGI +10%
Behemoth: ATK/DEF +10%
Mictlantecuhtli: DEF/AGI +10%
Nuadha: ATK/DEF +10%
Sphinx Empress: WIS +20%

Lord of the Inferno: ATK/DEF +10%
Iron Maiden: ATK/AGI +10%
Banshee Requiem: Darkness +4
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Heca : +10%ATK&+10%WIS
Vamp : Revive
Specter : Self-destruct
Bune : +20%AGI

So for example with the rebirth system
You combine Powerful Nuaza with another Powerful Nuaza to get a Berserker Nuaza. When it levels to 70 it gets atk+10,def+10% skill


The one exception is with limited cards. They cannot fuse with themselves and must fuse with it's normal form.
E.G. Almighty Cool Dominion can't fuse with Almighty Cool Dominion to get an Almighty Reborn Cool Dominion. However you can reborn
Almighty Cool Dominion + Cool Dominion to get Reborn Almighty Cool Dominion.
Limited cards also don't get a new skill.



Why do I know this? Because this is the same damn thing as the fusing system in SE's Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep.
Enjoy

Quick Edit; All rebirthing does is give 5/4* an extra skill at level 60 (or 50 for 1/2*, 3* get no change)
It gives a non cool/ace type guardians a slight boost in that type.
It Increases the level cap for said guardian to +10 it's origianl level cap.
It resets your skills to how they were at level 1 so incase a guardian is miskilled you can fix it now.
Also you CANNOT REBIRTH A REBORN GUARDIAN

There are three special cases though
Almighty Gold Slime cannot be reborn
Mivanna can't be reborn

These are irregular cards per SE in what they need to rebirth
Cagnazzo: Aspara/Cagnazzo
Rubicante: Agni/Rubicante
Scarmiglione: Procell/Scarmiglione
Barbariccia: Sphinx Empress/Barbariccia
Golbez: Thor/Golbez
Banshee Requiem: Banshee Requiem/Serenade (ouch!)
Iron Maiden: Iron Maiden

Alm Pumpkin Titan: Titan
Alm Yuletide Lich: Morrigan
Alm BW: Banshee Serenade
Alm Xmas Banshee: Banshee Serenade
Alm Jolly Old Azi: Azi Dahaka
Alm Serpent Lamia: Azi Dahaka
Midgardsormr: Midgardsormr
Lord of Inferno: Lord of Inferno
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Fast shiva + 2x phy+4 + 10iii + 2 border card for ace S.bird ..

A good deal or no go ?
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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 4 2013, 06:49 PM)
Fast shiva + 2x phy+4 + 10iii + 2 border card for ace S.bird ..

A good deal or no go ?
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For me i won't go for it..
I like Shiva more than the metal bird..
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wish there'll be more info on reborn 4*s. because need to know which are good. Bune +20 doesn't do much good for me. vamp is good that's why i'm trying to get one >< how bout nara?

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