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 ~★★ Guardian Cross® V3 thread ★★~, Gathering coming soon...CNY

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mbr
post Jan 31 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Jan 31 2013, 03:36 PM)
I just thought since it's a 3* Monster, the battle tactic is select those that can kill the most, and get kill the least.

But anyway i'll work with your arrangement, pls advise me how to line up & prepare the deck.
Is it as per your earlier post?
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Why not try my spec, then battle KramerT84, then rearrange to your choice then I use Kramer to battle that, and we compare?

QUOTE(hulksmash @ Jan 31 2013, 04:15 PM)
Any extra conversations after completing Nightmare mode?
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Nope.

QUOTE(JarodLeong @ Jan 31 2013, 04:18 PM)
wah, this is serious business...Excel data in very orgarnize order somemore  rclxms.gif
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Indeed! Art of War!
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post Jan 31 2013, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Jan 31 2013, 04:14 PM)
Lv 50: Lady of the Keep
Guardians: Alm Shiva x3, Alm Banshee Witch x3, Alm VM x3, Vampire Sovereigness

Rewards: 3200GP, 4x STAT(III)

And after that, the Crimson Keep disappears
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u just destroy the portal to the crimson keep

QUOTE(JarodLeong @ Jan 31 2013, 04:18 PM)
wah, this is serious business...Excel data in very orgarnize order somemore  rclxms.gif
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guardian cross is serious business
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post Jan 31 2013, 04:32 PM

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Bro Mbr - Ok, pls give me your arrangement. U had another 3* team at Kramer also?

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post Jan 31 2013, 05:44 PM

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i wonder is it wise to feed my anahita to level up othet cards

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post Jan 31 2013, 05:46 PM

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Anahita?

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post Jan 31 2013, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Jan 31 2013, 04:32 PM)
Bro Mbr - Ok, pls give me your arrangement. U had another 3* team at Kramer also?
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1. Wendigo has highest Agi and better DEF than Cait Sith. Time to use the HP(III).
2. Svarog has best ATK after buff, and will benefit from the Phys +3
3. Rangda is useless without an attack. Use Wind +3 and replace AGI-20% (keep ATK-20% as Rangda's DEF is a bit lower)
4. Hydra stoned can be a decent physical tank here. Give it Water +3 to replace the phys+2.
5. Grim Reaper comes in for extra havoc
6. Grigori comes to back Rangda as elemental damager
7. Cait Sith to pick off any stragglers, keep poison +2 against tanks.
8. Mummy should have time to cast Death, after Cait Sith's higher Agi
9. Naga with Revive to tank against Damages, give it Water+3
10. Agares as the last bastion with Last Stand, give it Earth +3

Come fight MBR's 4* Aces deck (though mostly unstoned) with average ATK of 2567 and DEF 2435

When done, tell us how it went and try rearrange according to your tables, then I shall return the challenge after that.
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post Jan 31 2013, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Jan 31 2013, 07:36 PM)
1. Wendigo has highest Agi and better DEF than Cait Sith. Time to use the HP(III).
2. Svarog has best ATK after buff, and will benefit from the Phys +3
3. Rangda is useless without an attack. Use Wind +3 and replace AGI-20% (keep ATK-20% as Rangda's DEF is a bit lower)
4. Hydra stoned can be a decent physical tank here. Give it Water +3 to replace the phys+2.
5. Grim Reaper comes in for extra havoc
6. Grigori comes to back Rangda as elemental damager
7. Cait Sith to pick off any stragglers, keep poison +2 against tanks.
8. Mummy should have time to cast Death, after Cait Sith's higher Agi
9. Naga with Revive to tank against Damages, give it Water+3
10. Agares as the last bastion with Last Stand, give it Earth +3

Come fight MBR's 4* Aces deck (though mostly unstoned) with average ATK of 2567 and DEF 2435

When done, tell us how it went and try rearrange according to your tables, then I shall return the challenge after that.
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what he said.

I also felt despite Wendigo's frail HP, he's only second fastest to Sleipnir and has a decent ATK/WIS stat. He's definitely in the deck. As for Rangda, only suitable for debuff without any meaningful attacks.
Grigori is a big yes, since he's one of the highest stats around.
If the deck has a good mix of physical, element and new skills, should give the best chances of winning. We can only presume that the other teams are doing exactly the same as us. Only left now is to get the best arrangement.
Nice spreadsheet by the way negisf. I suppose you eat spreadsheet for breakfast judging from your work. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 31 2013, 08:37 PM

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Regarding Crimson Keep. The layout doesn't seem to be the same even on the second or third round. I screenshot every level during my first go, but on second round, everything changes again.
Despite the frustrating levels, the rewards are definitely worthwhile.
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post Jan 31 2013, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Jan 31 2013, 07:36 PM)
1. Wendigo has highest Agi and better DEF than Cait Sith. Time to use the HP(III).
2. Svarog has best ATK after buff, and will benefit from the Phys +3
3. Rangda is useless without an attack. Use Wind +3 and replace AGI-20% (keep ATK-20% as Rangda's DEF is a bit lower)
4. Hydra stoned can be a decent physical tank here. Give it Water +3 to replace the phys+2.
5. Grim Reaper comes in for extra havoc
6. Grigori comes to back Rangda as elemental damager
7. Cait Sith to pick off any stragglers, keep poison +2 against tanks.
8. Mummy should have time to cast Death, after Cait Sith's higher Agi
9. Naga with Revive to tank against Damages, give it Water+3
10. Agares as the last bastion with Last Stand, give it Earth +3

Come fight MBR's 4* Aces deck (though mostly unstoned) with average ATK of 2567 and DEF 2435

When done, tell us how it went and try rearrange according to your tables, then I shall return the challenge after that.
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Ok, battle done - bro. The 3* Aces deck beats your deck.
The battle is intense with everything's is at stake - revive activate, death, revive.
The Agares whack the QJ. Last stand didn't have chance to activated yet, alrd k.o. QJ

I think just go with your arrangement. Since 4* Aces couldn't hold this deck down too.
So I'll register this deck to the Organiser ya.

Lost to KramerT84 deck. Cause it's all 5*. Only lasted till Fujin

This post has been edited by negisf: Jan 31 2013, 08:56 PM
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post Jan 31 2013, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 31 2013, 08:37 PM)
Regarding Crimson Keep. The layout doesn't seem to be the same even on the second or third round. I screenshot every level during my first go, but on second round, everything changes again.
Despite the frustrating levels, the rewards are definitely worthwhile.
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it is different, and probably 30% of my maps are the same as the jp guide. So in the end I have to blindly guess. My luck is always bad, sometimes ending up with 3 boxes which are gate, key and treasure. Oh well. smile.gif 2nd run lvl 41 now. Cant get pass mict and s.banshee in one go, need to reshuffle my team for round 3. both left 2 to spare.
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post Jan 31 2013, 09:07 PM

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Bosses in nightmare mode Crimson Keep can be weaken ?

btw i'm stuck at 3rd round lvl 30 CK. anyone got spare 5* to borrow for a few hrs to clear CK 3rd round ?
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post Jan 31 2013, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 31 2013, 12:38 PM)
Good guide for newbie traders.

What about this. I have a Cool S. Empress which is deemed as a bad type, but obviously its not within the range of 10-15 stat (iii).
How much is it worth in stones or in 5* trades?
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No, MBR's guideline should apply for Shiva alone only. Each guardian should have a different price range. A bad type Bahamut can go as low as 4 stat stones iii, but no one in their right mind will trade their bad type Nuada for 10 stat stones iii.

QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jan 31 2013, 02:29 PM)
i think my domi is smart enough, but only if there's liiiiiiiiiiitle life left. my baha, even with little life, it uses darkness+4 =.= i was like OMG!!!! you brainless numb skull!
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As far as I know;

Skill 1
Skill 2
Skill 3

If Skill 2 & 3 (assuming both cost the same amount of MP) can KO the guardian, the AI will pick skill 2 - the 1st skill from the top that can KO enemy.
If Skill 2 & 3 (assuming Skill 3 cost lesser amount of MP) can KO the guardian, the AI will pick skill 3 - the one with the lesser MP cost.

If scratch is enough to KO enemy, they will use scratch instead of skills. If they don't use scratch, that means it's not enough to KO the enemy guardian. I know this very well cause all guardian will scratch my Nuada & Gilgamesh after last stand activates (left 1 HP).

QUOTE(negisf @ Jan 31 2013, 03:36 PM)
I just thought since it's a 3* Monster, the battle tactic is select those that can kill the most, and get kill the least.

But anyway i'll work with your arrangement, pls advise me how to line up & prepare the deck.
Is it as per your earlier post?
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Agi is still the most important one.....unless 3* can't usually 1 Hit KO each other.

QUOTE(FallenOut @ Jan 31 2013, 04:24 PM)
guardian cross is serious business
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Yes, very serious hehe =)

QUOTE(negisf @ Jan 31 2013, 08:53 PM)
Ok, battle done - bro. The 3* Aces deck beats your deck.
The battle is intense with everything's is at stake - revive activate, death, revive.
The Agares whack the QJ. Last stand didn't have chance to activated yet, alrd k.o. QJ

I think just go with your arrangement. Since 4* Aces couldn't hold this deck down too.
So I'll register this deck to the Organiser ya.

Lost to KramerT84 deck. Cause it's all 5*. Only lasted till Fujin
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Are there any desert 3* that has Quick Strike or Last Stand? These two are the latest battle style of GC, everyone is trying to get this combo.

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jan 31 2013, 08:53 PM)
it is different, and probably 30% of my maps are the same as the jp guide. So in the end I have to blindly guess. My luck is always bad, sometimes ending up with 3 boxes which are gate, key and treasure. Oh well. smile.gif 2nd run lvl 41 now. Cant get pass mict and s.banshee in one go, need to reshuffle my team for round 3. both left 2 to spare.
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Here's a tip I picked up when referring to the Jap map. I assume you're referring to these maps right?
Floor 1 - 10
Floor 11- 20
Floor 21 - 30
Floor 31 - 40
Floor 41 - 50

What I do is I make a random guess on ANY [?]. If I manage to get either a CHEST, a KEY or a KEYHOLE, I would refer to all the maps. Chances are ONE of those maps will have your pattern. Its only tedious to scroll down to see all the maps, but its better than to randomly select all the chests. I simply skip all the CHEST because I rather quickly move thru the levels than wasting my 5 AP to earn coli tix, NHT or GP.

QUOTE(stitdawg @ Jan 31 2013, 09:07 PM)
Bosses in nightmare mode Crimson Keep can be weaken ?

btw i'm stuck at 3rd round lvl 30 CK. anyone got spare 5* to borrow for a few hrs to clear CK 3rd round ?
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Wow, already in your 3rd round? How many recovery pots did you used?
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post Jan 31 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(stitdawg @ Jan 31 2013, 09:07 PM)
Bosses in nightmare mode Crimson Keep can be weaken ?

btw i'm stuck at 3rd round lvl 30 CK. anyone got spare 5* to borrow for a few hrs to clear CK 3rd round ?
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I got spares 5* n 4* Aces not using.
Pinjam u first?

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post Jan 31 2013, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Jan 31 2013, 09:23 PM)
I got spares 5* n 4* Aces not using.
Pinjam u first?
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nicezz ...come send to me ...
thx man.
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post Jan 31 2013, 09:32 PM

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i did used quite a few recovery pots. tangan gatal cannot tahan, so bought some coins. lol
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Here's a good thread I found selling bad 5* at fixed price.
WTB stat stone iii (for my 5 stars) - fixed price

These are his prices:
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List
-sexy Gargan / FSeMP - stat stone iii 20
-brave Apsara / FS stat stone iii 20 (sold)
-pow Gilga / lv60 stat stone iii 10
-pow VM / lv60 stat stone iii 10
-sexy Behe / lv22 stat stone iii 10
Might - stat stone iii 5
Great - stat stone iii 3
-brave Might Lich / lv60 (sold)
-int Might Gargan / lv1
-sexy Great JOAD /lv60
-sexy Great Lamia / lv1
-pow Great Phoenix / lv1


Looks quite affordable. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(oRoXoRo @ Jan 31 2013, 05:46 PM)
Anahita?

Nom nom nom nom
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how could u
she is an angel

QUOTE(NightHeart @ Jan 31 2013, 09:10 PM)
No, MBR's guideline should apply for Shiva alone only. Each guardian should have a different price range. A bad type Bahamut can go as low as 4 stat stones iii, but no one in their right mind will trade their bad type Nuada for 10 stat stones iii.
As far as I know;

Skill 1
Skill 2
Skill 3

If Skill 2 & 3 (assuming both cost the same amount of MP) can KO the guardian, the AI will pick skill 2 - the 1st skill from the top that can KO enemy.
If Skill 2 & 3 (assuming Skill 3 cost lesser amount of MP) can KO the guardian, the AI will pick skill 3 - the one with the lesser MP cost.

If scratch is enough to KO enemy, they will use scratch instead of skills. If they don't use scratch, that means it's not enough to KO the enemy guardian. I know this very well cause all guardian will scratch my Nuada & Gilgamesh after last stand activates (left 1 HP).
Agi is still the most important one.....unless 3* can't usually 1 Hit KO each other.
Yes, very serious hehe =)
Are there any desert 3* that has Quick Strike or Last Stand? These two are the latest battle style of GC, everyone is trying to get this combo.
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nope
for example
my reborn iron maiden
with att+20%
wit agi/att+10%
can scratch lvl 55 vamp from full hp to death
but fighting shiva or atlas tat has about 15% to 20% it will cast phys+4
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QUOTE(negisf @ Jan 31 2013, 09:23 PM)
I got spares 5* n 4* Aces not using.
Pinjam u first?
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I also want spare 5* for my 3rd round blush.gif
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QUOTE(stitdawg @ Jan 31 2013, 09:32 PM)
i did used quite a few recovery pots. tangan gatal cannot tahan, so bought some coins. lol
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Ok. Alrd send you my extra cards.
But can't guarantee thise card can help u clear lv30 ya.
Pls don't enter coli with them. I'm saving them for coli rush this weekend

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