i triple check the stats in gcx when i deal =/ haha. paranoid of getting banned.

They wanna test their hacking skills to see how to pass SE's radar I guess.

I want the Raijin, wanna rebirth my Int one since everyone is overvaluing their Int Raijin, it's close to impossible to get one.
But I also don't want you to get that cause Chaotic Nuada is so much better than a Cool one. The extra HP is helpful & the reduced Wis isn't spoiling your Nuada.

yea ~ chaotic nuada is a keeper ... this fella is nice !!!

in my deck now and he's kickin ass ~

ace type floating around GCF , damn tempted to get 1 but afraid ban hammerrrrrrr!!

bro night , can explain abit why chaotic better than brave ?

both no damage nuada main stats ..

lower mp but still able to cast +4 twice and buff for brave .. non lowered wis better def againt ele dmg and high def for phy dmg ..

chaotic increase max hp , doesn't harm nuada main stats ..

hmmmmmm

This is what has been playing in my mind as well. I guess I'm not going to get a pair chao nuada since my resources is not enuff at the moment. I'm too lazy to start an auction at the same time =.=

How are you going to Reborn your Int Raijin? With a Power Raijin? That would probably just makes your Int Rajin Reborn +10% Wis, -10%Atk instead of 15%+-.

This will involves some maths here,

This is the damage formula; Damage = (Atk or Wis) * ( 1 + Skill Level + Buff ) * Element Effects - (Def or Wis)/2

Element effect;
Critical - 115% or 1.15
Block - 85% or 0.85

As you can see, Def & Wis is halfed is reducing the damage. So that means for every 1 damage, you need 2 Def or Wis to nullify it. Whereas for HP, you need 1 HP to nullify 1 damage. So then, if you compare HP vs Def.....every 1 HP = 0.5 Def, isn't it? That makes chaotic twice as good as brave in terms of tanking. A chaotic is like a brave with +20% def.

ok, off to winterland to hunt. done with hot and steamy volcano. just shot down giant: fast DG. nothing special.

wow that's clear and understandable maths ! now i know why ppl rate chaotic nuada , behemoth so highly ...

thanks for the knowledge again ..

another question .. is chaotic behemoth good ? with just 2.6k agi , do he even have a chance to move ?

place a fast guardian infront of him , why placing a fast guardian infront of him will ensure he got a chance to move ?

as toppers : cool atlas better or fast s.bird better ? fast s.bird rebirth also cant cast +4 twice right ? guess is a bad idea ~ ?

i know bro mbr posted thor skills and stats some page behind ..

brave thor = good idea ?

**i'm a huge thor fans obviously**

To explain why placing fast in front of a slow guardian gives the slow one a better chance of attacking, you need to understand the ATB system first; http://guardiancross-forum.com/Thread-AGI-Formula-Explained

You need to fill up the "movement bar" which consist of 10,000 points, whoever fills up the bar first get to attack first. This is explains why sometimes you get to attack 2 times in a row. It's because your AGI is so much higher than the enemy AGI. So by having a fast guardian in front to fill up (hopefully most) of the "movement bar", then you slow guardian can easily complete the movement bar before the enemy does & attack first.

This also explains why AGI buff & debuff takes effect from the 2nd round onward, cause the 1st round has been calculated before the guardian even start buffing.

As far as i heard, only Brave & Heroic Stymp Bird can't double cast. That's why Stymp Bird is getting popular now.
I'll have 4 Stymp Bird soon - 2 Sexy fully stoned one, 1 Fast & 1 Int one. Anyone wants Sexy Stymp Bird? LOL.

okay i'll go study the ATB system , thanks for the link bro

brave and heroic can double cast +4 , how bout fast / sonic ? able ?

fast shiva clean = chaotic behe FSeMP + cool atlas + fast s.bird ok ?

sigh... my Ace, sexy, bravex2 and chaotic stymph bird went away with Kramer.

It's quite fair la, seeing that Atlas & Stymp Bird is wanted as well for rebirth. Atlas will be the feeder though, so you can't expect much out of it.

Night - wanna swap? I got chaotic raijin for ur s.birds

Now my chao nuada got offer of int Agni FSeMP + int Gilga clean

Why am I attracting guardians I'm not too fancy of?

GCF showing Fast s.bird mp 2730

Def -20% = 150mp
agi+20% = 200mp
phy+4 = 1200mp x2 = 2400

mp2750 .. means cant phy+4 twice ?

zzzzzz , tot wanna keep 2 s.bird to rebirth it to sonic .. no 2x phy+4 no use lo

aih

I still owe you a Brave Dominion lol. I wanna settle that debt first, CNY coming....gotta settle any debt before CNY >_<
Is your Raijin fully stoned as well? If not, can we settle with my Sexy Stymp Bird (fully stoned except MP & coliseum free)?
Put it behind a very fast guardian & it can attack twice in a row sometimes.
I'm gonna eat up that Raijin anyway, so if you got a sexy or chaotic one also can.

That's before reborn, after reborn it should be able to.
After reborn it's recommended skill is;

Def -20% = 150mp
Quick Strike = 300mp
Phy +4 = 2400 (1200mp x2)

Total of 2850 MP needed, now the max for non reborn fast Stymp Bird is 2730.....it should get extra 120 MP from the extra 10 levels.

Either that or just reborn a Sexy Stymp Bird if you're worried, 108% confirm can double attack with quick strike. That's why Stymp Bird is being hunted down like mad now along with Chariot. But Chariot, only the reborn Ace, Virgin & Sexy can double cast I think cause even non reborn Ace can't double cast. That's why I never like Chariot.

This post has been edited by NightHeart: Feb 6 2013, 12:48 AM

My raijin it's clean. So what's your proposal?
No offer for the INT shiva?

This post has been edited by negisf: Feb 6 2013, 12:50 AM

i see i see , thanks for the maths lesson again ~

i'll go for this trade then , it'll strengthen my deck for sure with FSeMP behe + fast s.bird

bro u have 2x sexy , 1xfast , 1xint .. why u dont rebirth is to virgin ?

sorry if this has been discuss before ..

fast + fast = sonic +15 agi - 15 def

ace + any = all stats +10

cool + any = cool +0

above i basically understand , but for below :

fast + chao = fast +10 agi , -10def ? correct ? will have increase lvl cap too to lvl70 ?

btw ~ during battle , how do we know their guardian type is rebirth type or non rebirth type ?

he likes maths

for me
if any of my id is banned again
I would hav the urge to get a jailbroken iphone
and get the hackin software
n then I will everyday send some hack cards to unsuspecting ppl
it will b 1 hell of a burden on their email

other games I see
they will stop the hacks by improving
se stop the hacks by simply banning ppl

@funny
about tat guy sellin usd1 to rm1 for apps n movies
at first I order hd movies from him
he send me sd
then my last order for the x men quad bundle
I wanted sd
he send me hd
im speechless

it will come back in due time