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 ~★★ Guardian Cross® V3 thread ★★~, Gathering coming soon...CNY

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post Feb 5 2013, 06:37 PM

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seriously the list would be great !~

i think 1 or 2 more trade ...

i'll rest up ~

wait rebirth come ... rebirth what i have ..

slowly catch few 5* if can

only enter market again ~ ..

trading is not only tiring , but worrying will kena ban is the worse part ~

FTS SE ! u r spoilling the game
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post Feb 5 2013, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 5 2013, 06:25 PM)
It's quite fair la, I'm still using an Int Apsara too. But might chance her soon.....I'm trying not to have any guardian from Berneside Plains anymore.
Kostelle used to have a sub-mission just like the Crimson Keep. There's a dungeon called Dagon's Temple there, so after the given time, they took away the sub-mission there.
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Oh I see , guess I started late miss out on Dagon temple smile.gif good stuff there ? Then I'll camp at kostelle for some time the. ~

Berneside plain no keeper ? How bout dominion ?

@.@ 200iii for a ace raijin..

If ace raijin + sexy raijin pair can fetch really good stuff then ? I guess once the seller get the 200iii straight banned .. Lol
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post Feb 5 2013, 07:06 PM

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Bro Negisf ~ I guess you holding the records of stone trading ~ 100iii for fast shiva & 80iii for fast shiva too ?


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post Feb 5 2013, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 5 2013, 07:44 PM)
Huhue....just sold my Cool Sphinx Empress. cry.gif
I'm soo gonna miss my hairy baby.
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Why u sold off this hairy baby ~ mind sharing how much you sold it boss ?

A bad / worse empress now selling how much ah ?
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post Feb 5 2013, 08:44 PM

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20 skill stone 20 stat 10 feeder , that's 10 gift ! Won't this trigger SE ban hammer alarm ?

I never dare trade with stones sad.gif that's why I'm stone broke ~

More than 5 skill stone per type will get banned easily right by letting them accuse of duping

-___- phobia me ..

Btw how much stone can a sexy shiva and fast shiva fetch ?
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post Feb 5 2013, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 5 2013, 10:43 PM)
I use it as presentation tool, textbook references, journals, emails... and FB on ipad is just like PC's and nicer in my opinion.

Setting up GC now. Will buy some coins there this time smile.gif
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LOL ~ coins for SHT at berneside ?

keep up the spirit bro ~ you're really the king here !

SE wanna K.O you , in their dream ~ you're like having 100% success revive rate ~ LOL
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post Feb 5 2013, 10:52 PM

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bro / sifu ~

fast ettin is good ?

trying to bid a fast ettin with fast shiva + toppers ~ LOL

just trying it for fun smile.gif

but i like rubi , fast rubi good ?
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post Feb 5 2013, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 5 2013, 10:54 PM)
Were you the one bidding Damakhat's Fast Ettin?
Shiva to me, is slightly stronger than Ettin. You're supposed to get toppers actually >_<
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LOL~ i edi check shiva stats and too feel shiva is stonger , but i edi have shiva , so thinking swapping this clean for his fast ettin stoned lo ..

ya damakhat ..

buthen he gone for the s.bird + aspara + 20iii + 2x ele+4 deal d i guess..
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post Feb 5 2013, 11:25 PM

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rot in inbox ... sounds kinda sad .. but definitely better than letting the ban hammer go knock your deck
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post Feb 5 2013, 11:48 PM

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yea ~ chaotic nuada is a keeper ... this fella is nice !!!

in my deck now and he's kickin ass ~

ace type floating around GCF , damn tempted to get 1 but afraid ban hammerrrrrrr!!

bro night , can explain abit why chaotic better than brave ?

both no damage nuada main stats ..

lower mp but still able to cast +4 twice and buff for brave .. non lowered wis better def againt ele dmg and high def for phy dmg ..

chaotic increase max hp , doesn't harm nuada main stats ..

hmmmmmm
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post Feb 6 2013, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 5 2013, 11:58 PM)
This will involves some maths here,

This is the damage formula; Damage = (Atk or Wis) * ( 1 + Skill Level + Buff ) * Element Effects - (Def or Wis)/2

Element effect;
Critical - 115% or 1.15
Block - 85% or 0.85

As you can see, Def & Wis is halfed is reducing the damage. So that means for every 1 damage, you need 2 Def or Wis to nullify it. Whereas for HP, you need 1 HP to nullify 1 damage. So then, if you compare HP vs Def.....every 1 HP = 0.5 Def, isn't it? That makes chaotic twice as good as brave in terms of tanking. A chaotic is like a brave with +20% def.
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wow that's clear and understandable maths ! now i know why ppl rate chaotic nuada , behemoth so highly ...

thanks for the knowledge again ..

another question .. is chaotic behemoth good ? with just 2.6k agi , do he even have a chance to move ?

place a fast guardian infront of him , why placing a fast guardian infront of him will ensure he got a chance to move ?

as toppers : cool atlas better or fast s.bird better ? fast s.bird rebirth also cant cast +4 twice right ? guess is a bad idea ~ ?
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post Feb 6 2013, 12:12 AM

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i know bro mbr posted thor skills and stats some page behind ..

brave thor = good idea ?

**i'm a huge thor fans obviously** biggrin.gif
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post Feb 6 2013, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 6 2013, 12:16 AM)
To explain why placing fast in front of a slow guardian gives the slow one a better chance of attacking, you need to understand the ATB system first; http://guardiancross-forum.com/Thread-AGI-Formula-Explained

You need to fill up the "movement bar" which consist of 10,000 points, whoever fills up the bar first get to attack first. This is explains why sometimes you get to attack 2 times in a row. It's because your AGI is so much higher than the enemy AGI. So by having a fast guardian in front to fill up (hopefully most) of the "movement bar", then you slow guardian can easily complete the movement bar before the enemy does & attack first.

This also explains why AGI buff & debuff takes effect from the 2nd round onward, cause the 1st round has been calculated before the guardian even start buffing.

As far as i heard, only Brave & Heroic Stymp Bird can't double cast. That's why Stymp Bird is getting popular now.
I'll have 4 Stymp Bird soon - 2 Sexy fully stoned one, 1 Fast & 1 Int one. Anyone wants Sexy Stymp Bird? LOL.
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okay i'll go study the ATB system , thanks for the link bro

brave and heroic can double cast +4 , how bout fast / sonic ? able ?

fast shiva clean = chaotic behe FSeMP + cool atlas + fast s.bird ok ?
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post Feb 6 2013, 12:32 AM

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GCF showing Fast s.bird mp 2730

Def -20% = 150mp
agi+20% = 200mp
phy+4 = 1200mp x2 = 2400

mp2750 .. means cant phy+4 twice ?

zzzzzz , tot wanna keep 2 s.bird to rebirth it to sonic .. no 2x phy+4 no use lo

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 6 2013, 12:42 AM)
I still owe you a Brave Dominion lol. I wanna settle that debt first, CNY coming....gotta settle any debt before CNY >_<
Is your Raijin fully stoned as well? If not, can we settle with my Sexy Stymp Bird (fully stoned except MP & coliseum free)?
Put it behind a very fast guardian & it can attack twice in a row sometimes.
I'm gonna eat up that Raijin anyway, so if you got a sexy or chaotic one also can.
That's before reborn, after reborn it should be able to.
After reborn it's recommended skill is;

Def -20% = 150mp
Quick Strike = 300mp
Phy +4 = 2400 (1200mp x2)

Total of 2850 MP needed, now the max for non reborn fast Stymp Bird is 2730.....it should get extra 120 MP from the extra 10 levels.

Either that or just reborn a Sexy Stymp Bird if you're worried, 108% confirm can double attack with quick strike. That's why Stymp Bird is being hunted down like mad now along with Chariot. But Chariot, only the reborn Ace, Virgin & Sexy can double cast I think cause even non reborn Ace can't double cast. That's why I never like Chariot.
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i see i see , thanks for the maths lesson again ~

i'll go for this trade then , it'll strengthen my deck for sure with FSeMP behe + fast s.bird

bro u have 2x sexy , 1xfast , 1xint .. why u dont rebirth is to virgin ?

sorry if this has been discuss before ..

fast + fast = sonic +15 agi - 15 def

ace + any = all stats +10

cool + any = cool +0

above i basically understand , but for below :

fast + chao = fast +10 agi , -10def ? correct ? will have increase lvl cap too to lvl70 ?

btw ~ during battle , how do we know their guardian type is rebirth type or non rebirth type ?
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post Feb 6 2013, 01:23 AM

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LOL things are getting more and more complicated here ..

going to be more question for the pro's here when rebirth really comes in ..

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post Feb 6 2013, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 6 2013, 01:13 AM)


I created a selling thread, as usual I got junk offers only.....can anyone of you share with me at least 1 experience whereby you created a selling thread (not auction) & you actually managed to get a good offer from it?
Well, it seems like we can reborn two different types as long as it's the same guardian. The main guardian will maintain its type & reborn to level 1, then can level up to 70 to learn the new skill. I'm actually hoping & preparing for this at the moment. That's why I intend to get a Fast Stymp & reborn it with my Int Stymp. Sexy Stymp is a good type, rather not waste it by turning it into Virgin.

Also, you'll never know what type is enemy guardian unless you can calculate really fast by multiplying the amount of stat being buff by 5 (since most buffs are 20%). Then guess its type based on that amount, but stoning really can spoil your guessing accuracy la.
Don't la spoil innocent players, learn DDoS & do a DDoS attack on SE's servers...once the server jammed, no GC until they fix their server LOL.
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i posted few times in GCF normal selling thread , get some quite interesting offer ..

but i cant recall all and dunno consider good or not la ..

cool golbez = fast shiva + sexy raijin + sexy titan + 25 iii .. if i didn't get it wrong la ya .. memories getting bad after many sleepless night

then the sexy titan = 5x skill stone +4 ( 4 phy 1 poison)

clean fast shiva = FSeMP chaotic behemoth (best type?) + Fast S.bird + 10iii

so means cool golbez = FSeMP Behemoth + sex raijin + 35iii + 5x skill stone ..

this would be my best trade i guess .. others kena conned or rugi x mau cakap la , maluuuuu ~ LOL blush.gif
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post Feb 6 2013, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 6 2013, 01:40 AM)
10 SHT later...

4x Angel
3x Ramiel
1x, Vampire, Qiong Ji, Jormungandr, Hecantocheir

And 10000 GP worth of 3* guardians later...

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First 5* of the account!

And the type:

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And so the outright winner of the contest: Sephiroth Lee!!

Reward: Lv 1 Cool Crazed Juggernaut, Lv 55 Ace Talos, Lv 55 Fast Talos (Now you can do a rebirth of this mini gargantua)
Sent via trade!
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wow ~ a graceful swan for your 1st 5* guardian on your new ipad .. nice ! congratz ..

luck is not those ugly leviathan or scary frankenstein .. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 6 2013, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 6 2013, 09:35 AM)
Sorry, by time i read this, i've alrd traded off the Raijin, cause i found a good deal. Or at least i think it's a good deal.
Chao Raijin + 20 (iii) for Int Gilga.

Anyway, i believe u have a fast shiva ryte? Have u found a partner for it?

If not can we trade like this?

Brave Dom + Fast Shiva + toppers(?) = Sexy S.Bird + Int Shiva.
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wow early early 2 pro - trader edi nego-ing on good stuff biggrin.gif

this show's that how active the market is on LYN ~
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post Feb 6 2013, 09:47 AM

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for rebirth .. now we can fuse 2 any type of guardian ..

int + int = wise

int + fast = int ..

let's say have int gilga 2x .. best type right , best is fuse it with a bad type and get back int , then trade the other best type for other goodies ?

cox wise just +another 5% more ...

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