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Investment PAVILION HILLTOP MONT'KIARA [OWNERS' THREAD], Pavilion is coming to Mont Kiara

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hunterlim
post Apr 11 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(B.Angela @ Apr 11 2013, 04:40 PM)
Agreed....great minds think alike  wink.gif  wink.gif ,furthermore  1,200 comes with 3 rooms and 2 carparks ......that is the thing that attracts me.
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Agreed as well, I think it's really worth it , few more other factors IMHO, 1. Pavillion brand , 2. Exclusive and less busy and situated at the hilltop 3. in "real" Mont Kiara enclave 4. walking distance to both Mont Kiara Solaris and Publika 5. Near future KL Metropolis 6. Near future MRT 6. Close Mont Kiara exits to many highways so will less jams compare to the entrance to Mont Kiara side (Jln Kiara 1).... will be both investor and tenant favourite smile.gif
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post Apr 13 2013, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 12 2013, 01:53 PM)
Assume this rental(despite on high side in today's rental mkt in MK) for 1200sf @ 900psf, nett rental yield is 4% max.... this is not attractive to me
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Jedi do you mind sharing which development with good rental yield?
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post Apr 13 2013, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 12 2013, 01:57 PM)
You pts are on emotional benefits but I am an investor who only influenced by numbers.... this is a cash flow negative investment to me.... opposite HARTAMAS regency across the road is few hundred psf cheaper and more legs to run
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Do you mind sharing what is the exactly by buying into Hartamas how you will have positive cash flow..
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post Apr 13 2013, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 12 2013, 02:04 PM)
This is a trophy buy for those who go for Pavillion brand. I only wish buyers good luck and ask them to buy a stamp album....huhu!
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I will not try to change your perception, Pavilion is entirely for investor of next level, we are not looking for positive cash flow because we know buying into this "throphy property" means there is less likely many people can afford and this help to fend of speculators and those with almost negative cash flow.
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post Apr 13 2013, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 12 2013, 02:24 PM)
1200psf considered luxury? My read your luxury definition is 900psf, MK address, Pavillion branding and only for those gullible water fish with deep pockets to keep this in the stamp album. Phew luckily I am not in this luxury group
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You said it well, you don't belong to this group, I guess you ill also scratch your head why people will pay more than 30 mil each for Four Season Penthouse, it's just not your kid of game...
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post Apr 13 2013, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 12 2013, 08:08 PM)
I beg to differ on your definition of luxury. Its ok to hv differing views. The readers in this forum are smart ppl who can distinguish fact and fiction, black and white or smoke and mirror.
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Jedi ,you can perceived yourself as a smart investor and all but there are many point you forget to consider that property play in malaysia is already going into next phase of growth and we can no longer rely on a location to justified the price because you can only charge so high for location, look at MK , UEM/Sunrise knows that Mont Kiara or whatever name they want to put into thier development with MK name cannot bring anymore premium to the price, MK new launches used to be just few hundred ringgit below KLCC's price, but look at KLCC now already few thousand ahead of MK if you look at the different of the latest launches .already at 3K psf level , the different is KLCC is good at attracting Luxury brand ... and that really matter and make a lot of different.....never underestimate Luxury brand, Malaysia is proud to have Jimmy Choo's brand and the next one could be Pavilion. Sad but true and you may not like this...but luxury is used by many rich of well off people to position themselves apart from the rest and some of the country and company know how to p lay this game well look at France and Arnold Bernard the owner of LMVH.
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post Apr 13 2013, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 13 2013, 10:40 AM)
I can give you a long list but why shld I spoon feed you. Don't be lazy, look out subsale and rental prices in Star classified ads and iProperty and do the maths.
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a lazy reply instead.... thumbup.gif I though this smart investor must have full analysis up his sleeve... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Apr 13 2013, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 13 2013, 10:45 AM)
Then good luck to the journey of trophy collection. Investors are smarter nowadays.
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you are the one who said this is throphy, a good property cabn only be decribed as throphy
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post Apr 13 2013, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 13 2013, 10:48 AM)
If 2 out of millions out there paid 30mil for trophy...it means a shallow represent summer is coming?? I find your analogy is flaw and misleading. You do not have to convince me since I am not a gullible investor.
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This is liking to teaching monkey how to use remote control, for monkey it's just totally not their nature to understand the sophistication. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 13 2013, 10:56 AM)
Pavillion analogy to LVMH and Bernard....I find this funny and amazed with your figment of imagination. If I use your logic, BN brand also a luxury viewing the brand is in existence for many yrs in bolehland. So Jimmy Choo also owns unit in Tiffani located next to this Pavillion hilltop in MK but much cheaper...so Tiffani condo shld be luxury and more affordable, right?
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BN brand, Jimmy Choo staying in tifanni that is why Tifanni is luxury... what kind of analogy is this....do you understand what are we talking about or not from the begining? Brand... not BN
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 13 2013, 10:59 AM)
Wow, chow kit ppl no standard meh even some bosses there cld own multi millions shoplots there...

Guess you are SA for this project, dun simply bring ppl to holland lar. Japan is better!
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I think you belong to chow Kit no wonder never fully understand the significant of brand and MK as a prime location for international community... just shut up man.. you are embarrasing us Malaysian in the international community..... I beg you.... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 13 2013, 11:02 AM)
I leave this to the wisdom of readers here to judge... They know very well what are rental yield for property in various discussion threads here
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agin tell us what is the yield you have in your portfolio... too stingy to share or actually just an empty shell?


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post Apr 13 2013, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 13 2013, 11:05 AM)
Who make oneself as a monkey here, the forummers here know better. When one cannot argue with facts, one will get defensive and do personal attacks to cover the inability and inferior.. If you cannot take the heat in kitchen, then don't be a chef.
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i am still waiting for your facts and methodology......c'mon you can do better than that.. at least something
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 13 2013, 11:08 AM)
The more I read your posts, it affirms my belief you are a SA trying to cari makan to promote this project. Your are embarrassing yourself and indirectly impact Pavillion branding plus chasing away potential luxury buyers
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whatever it is Pavilion will like that I chase a way a potential speculators like one here....levae this place man it's just not cut for you... i beg you, you will only inflate the price here and leave ... we dont want ppl like you here.... just dont invest in Pavilion it is no good like you say,,, just leave
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(hunterlim @ Apr 13 2013, 11:10 AM)
whatever it is Pavilion will like that I chase a way a potential speculators like one here....levae this place man it's just not cut for you... i beg you, you will only inflate the price here and leave ... we dont want ppl like you here.... just dont invest in Pavilion it is no good like you say,,, just leave
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We just want to stay here happily and if the price increase bit by bit with rental yield acceptable even it is negative it is good enough for it is obsorb part of interest or maybe the principles....we are not looking with coming out without no money and expect big return... these are speculators... no we dont want speculators they are like leeches suck the development dried and leave
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(hunterlim @ Apr 13 2013, 11:14 AM)
We just want to stay here happily and if the price increase bit by bit with rental yield acceptable even it is negative it is good enough for it is obsorb part of interest or maybe the principles....we are not looking with coming out without no money and expect big return... these are speculators... no we dont want speculators they are like leeches suck the development dried and leave
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I believed all the good developer are trying to fend off people like you and Pavilion will thank me 1000 X for this
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 13 2013, 11:14 AM)
You talk like as if you or your father own this lyn forum. The objective of this open forum is to allow ppl to share views even it cld be different. You need help, dude!
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dude choose the right forum to talk dont just talk empty we appreciate if you h ave good analogy with fact perhaps some better recommendation, we are all investors here... sharing info i cannot stand if i see someone just hit and run without any real contribution
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:20 AM

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refer back to my initial comment you look at my analogy and reasons... it is clear if you have something like this it is good i will appreciate it but dont destroy the essence of this forum which is to reasons, everybody can throw shit and run but not everyone can reasons
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(The Jedi @ Apr 13 2013, 11:20 AM)
Haha, so you confessed Pavillion will pay you to promote this project?
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I wish if they pay me.... but instead I am the one who pay them to buy their property
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post Apr 13 2013, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(B.Angela @ Apr 13 2013, 11:25 AM)
This guy is a bit offensive, I am disappointed in this forum, As a Japanese I think i should be appreciated that I love t his country but some people are just not right for this... I am leaving this forum, \ but I must say I am a bit offended by his remark on the Japanese... sad.gif
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Angela not all Malaysian are jerk like this guy we appreciate your contributions and please don't leave this forum. we are all highly civilized

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