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TSDwen
post Jan 21 2013, 12:28 PM, updated 13y ago

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Hi. I've changed to a new set of tires. 195/55/15. Previously using Hankook. Now i'm using Maxxis Ma-Z1. my problem is... after changing tyre, i felt vibration when speeding from 110 kmh and above. I've done on wheel balancing, still doesn't help. My rims are ok. Any idea what may cause the problem? doh.gif

p/s: my previous tyre didn't have this problem at all, especially when i've done on wheel balancing.
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post Jan 21 2013, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Dwen @ Jan 21 2013, 12:28 PM)
Hi. I've changed to a new set of tires. 195/55/15. Previously using Hankook. Now i'm using Maxxis Ma-Z1. my problem is... after changing tyre, i felt vibration when speeding from 110 kmh and above. I've done on wheel balancing, still doesn't help. My rims are ok. Any idea what may cause the problem? doh.gif

p/s: my previous tyre didn't have this problem at all, especially when i've done on wheel balancing.
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do on/off wheel balancing, check alignment, check if steering rack / bushing etc all in proper condition.
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post Jan 21 2013, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 21 2013, 12:29 PM)
do on/off wheel balancing, check alignment, check if steering rack / bushing etc all in proper condition.
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off wheel balancing - done
on wheel balancing - done
allignment - done
steering rack / bushing etc all in proper condition - everything is still good

but my tyres is still vibrating when speeding 110 kmh and above
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post Jan 21 2013, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Dwen @ Jan 21 2013, 12:32 PM)
off wheel balancing - done
on wheel balancing - done
allignment - done
steering rack / bushing etc all in proper condition - everything is still good

but my tyres is still vibrating when speeding 110 kmh and above
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with car lifted, try to move/shake the tire, see if there are any loose/abnormal movements

if this is still fine, try swapping rims with the tires. (either among your own rim, or try out with other rims, see if got spares/shop can borrow or something)
TSDwen
post Jan 21 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 21 2013, 01:03 PM)
with car lifted, try to move/shake the tire, see if there are any loose/abnormal movements

if this is still fine, try swapping rims with the tires. (either among your own rim, or try out with other rims, see if got spares/shop can borrow or something)
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will do that, maybe tomorrow and hopefully get better result hmm.gif
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post Jan 22 2013, 01:21 AM

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dented rims?
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post Jan 22 2013, 04:18 PM

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When the tyre is on the balancing machine, do take note if there are movements in the tyre/wheel when it is spinning.

Also check if there is abnormal corrosion or dirt on the mounting surface between the wheel and the brake discs, preventing the wheel from being mounted properly.

Check your suspension components for play and also your driveshafts.

I had a case of vibration that is due to the driveshaft being bent.

If all fails, ask the shop to change the tyre.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Jan 22 2013, 04:54 PM
TSDwen
post Jan 22 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jan 22 2013, 04:18 PM)
When the tyre is on the balancing machine, do take note if there are movements in the tyre/wheel when it is spinning.

Also check if there is abnormal corrosion or dirt on the mounting surface between the wheel and the brake discs, preventing the wheel from being mounted properly.

Check your suspension components for play and also your driveshafts.

I had a case of vibration that is due to the driveshaft being bent.

If all fails, ask the shop to change the tyre.
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looks like i have to change driveshaft first to find out if there is still a problem. damn this is so annoying. thanks guys
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post Jan 23 2013, 11:02 AM

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Before tyre change any problem? If no problem, it means tyres r no good. Simple
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QUOTE(Dwen @ Jan 22 2013, 11:55 PM)
looks like i have to change driveshaft first to find out if there is still a problem. damn this is so annoying. thanks guys
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do confirm if your drive shaft are actually damaged/unbalance (eg: use another set of wheels, rims and/or tires)

don't just simply change
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post Jan 23 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 23 2013, 11:10 AM)
do confirm if your drive shaft are actually damaged/unbalance (eg: use another set of wheels, rims and/or tires)

don't just simply change
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noted that. must check with my pomen first before change to new drive shaft
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post Jan 28 2013, 12:24 PM

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Could be damaged tyre
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post Jan 28 2013, 11:27 PM

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I just switch my back tyre to front I also did my tyre balancing and alignment
But some how when I drive above 110km/h steering will some times vibrate....
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post Jan 29 2013, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(MAD MAX @ Jan 28 2013, 12:24 PM)
Could be damaged tyre
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i suspect my tyre is damaged too. but then, i have to check my drive shaft with my foremen first. if it's good, then must be my tyre
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post Feb 2 2013, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Dwen @ Jan 29 2013, 10:40 AM)
i suspect my tyre is damaged too. but then, i have to check my drive shaft with my foremen first. if it's good, then must be my tyre
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Just make sure the mechanic checks it first. Put it on a hoist and let the car run and see if there is any abnormal movement.


BTW, how much vibration are you talking about? A lot? or just a bit?

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Feb 2 2013, 03:35 PM
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post Feb 6 2013, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jan 28 2013, 11:27 PM)
I just switch my back tyre to front I also did my tyre balancing and alignment
But some how when I drive above 110km/h steering will some times vibrate....
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bro, ask your pomen to check on engine mounting also
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post Feb 8 2013, 04:36 PM

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May i know what car are you driving now?
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post Feb 9 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Dwen @ Feb 6 2013, 03:06 PM)
bro, ask your pomen to check on engine mounting also
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i already sent my car for recheck the tyres
found out that the tyres not round.....
going to replace it soon
any recommendation??
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post Feb 10 2013, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Feb 9 2013, 03:26 PM)
i already sent my car for recheck the tyres
found out that the tyres not round.....
going to replace it soon
any recommendation??
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Is it all tyres 'not round' @ 'out-of-round' ?

Imho, this normally happens when car tyres not enough pressure or left idle for quite some time, thus recommended to put extra pressure to the tires, especially tyres with soft sidewalls.

Your inspira on still on stock / oem 215/50R17 Continental MC5 tyres, or the 205/60R16 Continental CC5 ?

Imho, perhaps can try other premium comfort tyres like Yokohama Advan dB lust.gif, Toyo Proxes C1S, Bridgestone GR90, Goodyear Eagle EfficientGrip

This post has been edited by malowar: Feb 10 2013, 01:47 AM
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post Feb 11 2013, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(malowar @ Feb 10 2013, 01:45 AM)
Is it all tyres 'not round' @ 'out-of-round' ?

Imho, this normally happens when car tyres not enough pressure or left idle for quite some time, thus recommended to put extra pressure to the tires, especially tyres with soft sidewalls.

Your inspira on still on stock / oem 215/50R17 Continental MC5 tyres, or the 205/60R16 Continental CC5 ?

Imho, perhaps can try other premium comfort tyres like Yokohama Advan dB lust.gif, Toyo Proxes C1S, Bridgestone GR90, Goodyear Eagle EfficientGrip
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actually there already defects on the tyre when i receive the car some how i want to claim from continental but they reject me
i tot i drive a while the tyre going to be ok some how it never turn better
the tyre i think abuse by the car tester when they do PDI e.g. emergency brake
toyo c1s gooding?
what about compare with ps3?

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