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post Jan 21 2013, 07:36 AM, updated 13y ago

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Menteri kesihatan cakap e-cig boleh membawa kepada penyakit kronik ,
wahlau lu doktor ka sudah buat research ka ,
Sepanjang aku baca research dari DR daripada seluruh dunia
propylene glycol dan nicotine tak akan menyebabkan penyakit sebab dua dua bahan ni selamat kecuali nicotine ko ambil sebaldi buat kopi.

Di khabarkan hanya farmasi dan pengamal perubatan bertauliah akan di beri lesen untuk menjual e-cig ni. Maksudnya harga akan naik berkali ganda sebab dia akan tax e-cig ni macam dia tax rokok biasa.

Ini lah nasib hidup dalam kerajaan penindas rakyat. makesure pru gulingkan kerajaan bodoh ni.
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post Jan 21 2013, 07:37 AM

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Jap jap bro aku call anwar.

Bagitau dia letak isu ni dalam manifesto.

Hari ni pakatan rakyat tawan putrajaya, esok e-cig tak harrroommm! Non taxable katanya.

Pak anwar ni dah bangun pagi ke blom. Jap k bro..
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post Jan 21 2013, 07:41 AM

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Aku rasa, pengeluar rokok dah lobi kerajaan baik punya
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post Jan 21 2013, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ Jan 21 2013, 07:41 AM)
Aku rasa, pengeluar rokok dah lobi kerajaan baik punya
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mana dorang nak dapat side income kalau dah semua orang taknak rokok bakar? kan rokok haram selalu kena serbu sebab menggugat ketenteraman dorang tuh.
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post Jan 21 2013, 07:53 AM

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do u even know what nicotine is?
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post Jan 21 2013, 07:57 AM

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ya begitu bodoh sehingga saya tidak mahu dengar apa-apa sahaja yang dikatakan kerajaan BN itu.

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post Jan 21 2013, 07:57 AM

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well... if people start to go for e-ciggy, and they can stock form sumone else..

of course they freak out.. those cronies kenot make monies anymore..

cause majority of the ciggy company in malaysia at least 1 cronies got a share
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:09 AM

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Apa kata ko berenti isap rokok terus.......lagi berfaedah
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:15 AM

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and their cronies will supply e-cig for the farmasi...
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(carbike @ Jan 21 2013, 08:09 AM)
Apa kata ko berenti isap rokok terus.......lagi berfaedah
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:24 AM

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There is no substantial evidence that e-cigarette is healthy
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(redruby @ Jan 21 2013, 07:36 AM)
Menteri kesihatan cakap e-cig boleh membawa kepada penyakit kronik ,
wahlau lu doktor ka sudah buat research ka ,
Sepanjang aku baca research dari DR daripada seluruh dunia
propylene glycol dan nicotine tak akan menyebabkan penyakit sebab dua dua bahan ni selamat kecuali nicotine ko ambil sebaldi buat kopi.

Di khabarkan hanya farmasi dan pengamal perubatan bertauliah akan di beri lesen untuk menjual e-cig ni. Maksudnya harga akan naik berkali ganda sebab dia akan tax e-cig ni macam dia tax rokok biasa.

Ini lah nasib hidup dalam kerajaan penindas rakyat. makesure pru gulingkan kerajaan bodoh ni.
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This part is to ensure your safety, what if the pharmacy just put in some weird stuff that is not good for health, you never know. If they are given license after intense checking/safety protocol to ensure your safety, why not?

inb4 license means tax

inb4 tax means songlap

inb4 songlap means perokok marah

inb4 marah means boikot

inb4 if e-cig berleluasa gomen no money, because no tax.
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:31 AM

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this will not happen if the e-cigarette imposed with cukai

no cukai = extremely hazardous

impose cukai like normal cigarette out there = boleh hisap suka hati kau
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:33 AM

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dh namanya nikotin x de maknanya selamat
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(janszmatt @ Jan 21 2013, 08:24 AM)
There is no substantial evidence that e-cigarette is healthy
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so u wanna say smokers are better off smoking the normal cigarette?

QUOTE(yuusuke-kun @ Jan 21 2013, 08:31 AM)
this will not happen if the e-cigarette imposed with cukai

no cukai = extremely hazardous

impose cukai like normal cigarette out there = boleh hisap suka hati kau
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seriously this issue makes normal cigarette look angelic due all of the stupid remarks about e cig. ppl have been vaping all over the world for years. give us solid proof, evidence, not stupid statements.
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(junkredish @ Jan 21 2013, 08:33 AM)
dh namanya nikotin x de maknanya selamat
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habis tu yang racun2 dalam rokok biasa tu selamat la ye?
ada vitamin C ka? whistling.gif
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Jan 21 2013, 08:34 AM)
habis tu yang racun2 dalam rokok biasa tu selamat la ye?
ada vitamin C ka?  whistling.gif
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ask them straight to the face, if i blow u with normal cig smoke and e cig smoke, which 1 u prefer? idiots. zzz
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jan 21 2013, 08:35 AM)
ask them straight to the face, if i blow u with normal cig smoke and e cig smoke, which 1 u prefer? idiots. zzz
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me prefer ecig smoke
so wangi laugh.gif
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Jan 21 2013, 08:37 AM)
me prefer ecig smoke
so wangi  laugh.gif
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that is dangerous part .... u dunno what they mix with
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QUOTE(SerbaSerbi @ Jan 21 2013, 08:36 AM)
QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 21 2013, 08:39 AM)
that is dangerous part .... u dunno what they mix with
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_ci...Health_concerns

now read up, peasants.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 21 2013, 08:39 AM)
that is dangerous part .... u dunno what they mix with
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so u rather smell cig smoke?
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jan 21 2013, 08:40 AM)
mmg can not tahan ....
u know how local reseller mix their e cig liquid ?

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QUOTE(TittleTattleToxin @ Jan 21 2013, 08:43 AM)
I dont smoke...  Smoking is for  money waster
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quit after a month of smoking, at the end i chose comics over cigarette, well.. that was 6 years ago, but the effect on my health can be felt even until today.
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stop smoking....you can kill 2 birds with 1 stone
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mau duit
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raise ciggy tax again lor ~ hahahahahah


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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Jan 21 2013, 08:37 AM)
me prefer ecig smoke
so wangi  laugh.gif
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pastu lekat wangi kat baju..pergh..free perfume lol tongue.gif
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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Jan 21 2013, 08:34 AM)
habis tu yang racun2 dalam rokok biasa tu selamat la ye?
ada vitamin C ka?  whistling.gif
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ada dna babi
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post Jan 21 2013, 09:04 AM

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i duno why most of the smokers out there are ipta/ipts students


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post Jan 21 2013, 09:09 AM

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problem bila org dah terlalu taksub ngan politik...sampai rokok pun ko politikkan nye TS.. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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yang hisap rokok lagi bodoh
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LOL @ smokers
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The way I see it, both of u are stupid

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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Jan 21 2013, 09:13 AM)
The way I see it, not of u are stupid
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wait, what?
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QUOTE(virphirod @ Jan 21 2013, 09:13 AM)
wait, what?
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Amboi, Cepatny reply.
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QUOTE(Acher13 @ Jan 21 2013, 07:50 AM)
mana dorang nak dapat side income kalau dah semua orang taknak rokok bakar? kan rokok haram selalu kena serbu sebab menggugat ketenteraman dorang tuh.
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ya ke?... bukan sebab diorang tak dapat tax rokok harom tu ke? o wai...

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QUOTE(redruby @ Jan 21 2013, 07:36 AM)
Menteri kesihatan cakap e-cig boleh membawa kepada penyakit kronik ,
wahlau lu doktor ka sudah buat research ka ,
Sepanjang aku baca research dari DR daripada seluruh dunia
propylene glycol dan nicotine tak akan menyebabkan penyakit sebab dua dua bahan ni selamat kecuali nicotine ko ambil sebaldi buat kopi.

Di khabarkan hanya farmasi dan pengamal perubatan bertauliah akan di beri lesen untuk menjual e-cig ni. Maksudnya harga akan naik berkali ganda sebab dia akan tax e-cig ni macam dia tax rokok biasa.

Ini lah nasib hidup dalam kerajaan penindas rakyat. makesure pru gulingkan kerajaan bodoh ni.
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QUOTE(AdisonMak @ Jan 21 2013, 09:18 AM)
ya ke?... bukan sebab diorang tak dapat tax rokok harom tu ke? o wai...
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no wonder BAT shares drop like shet. Thx to e-ciggy
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Hisap benda lain je.
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QUOTE(noircharacter @ Jan 21 2013, 09:34 AM)
Hisap benda lain je.
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Benda apa? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(akifariqarisya @ Jan 21 2013, 09:39 AM)
Benda apa? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(akifariqarisya @ Jan 21 2013, 09:39 AM)
Benda apa? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(hafiez @ Jan 21 2013, 07:39 AM)
Jap jap bro aku call anwar.

Bagitau dia letak isu ni dalam manifesto.

Hari ni pakatan rakyat tawan putrajaya, esok e-cig tak harrroommm! Non taxable katanya.

Pak anwar ni dah bangun pagi ke blom. Jap k bro..
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dah bangun la.. harini pak anwar pg court dengar hearing pasal utusan
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QUOTE(yuusuke-kun @ Jan 21 2013, 08:31 AM)
this will not happen if the e-cigarette imposed with cukai

no cukai = extremely hazardous

impose cukai like normal cigarette out there = boleh hisap suka hati kau
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lepas tu tamban cukai naik harga, kononnya nak tolong korang quit rokok
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Dah terang lagi bersuluh, merokok membahayakan kesihatan. Berenti terus la... Why wanna cheat on yourself, pretend to make yourself feel good with fake ciggie? I for one never even took up a stick.
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QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Jan 21 2013, 09:49 AM)
lepas tu tamban cukai naik harga, kononnya nak tolong korang quit rokok
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Ramai lagi yang tak sedar2.
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Berhnti merokok je la. Hisap puting mcm bayi
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i more dun understand u guys who want e-cigarete

gomen clinic already provide all FREE consultation, monitoring & nicotine tablet to help u guys quit smoking..the only things u need to do is to go to any gomen clinic, request to get quit smoking program & just follow their instruction..they even will monitor ur progress, all for free

but still u guys wanna buy e-cigarete doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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E-cigar tu kira langkah berhenti la... Gua dulu isap dunhill. So semenjak beli e-cigar dah TAK SENTUH dunhill tu. so skang just isap e-cigar. So dlm tubuh seorang perokok memerlukan nikotin dan pastinya BUKAN asap dari dunhill. E-cigar ni cuma ada nikotin yg boleh mengurangkan perokok tegar. Ada kebaikkan yg banyak dlm e-cigar ni. Rokok dunhill atau seangkatan denganya ada 4000 bahan yg bahaya tp penjualan sah disisi undang2 atas alasan apa?
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QUOTE(redruby @ Jan 21 2013, 07:36 AM)
Menteri kesihatan cakap e-cig boleh membawa kepada penyakit kronik ,
wahlau lu doktor ka sudah buat research ka ,
Sepanjang aku baca research dari DR daripada seluruh dunia
propylene glycol dan nicotine tak akan menyebabkan penyakit sebab dua dua bahan ni selamat kecuali nicotine ko ambil sebaldi buat kopi.

Di khabarkan hanya farmasi dan pengamal perubatan bertauliah akan di beri lesen untuk menjual e-cig ni. Maksudnya harga akan naik berkali ganda sebab dia akan tax e-cig ni macam dia tax rokok biasa.

Ini lah nasib hidup dalam kerajaan penindas rakyat. makesure pru gulingkan kerajaan bodoh ni.
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prefer ex-menteri kesihatan.

hisap sihat untuk kesihatan terutama pompuan.
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the question is, cigarette has been here for such a long time compare to e cigs, why all the sudden fuss?
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jan 21 2013, 10:08 AM)
the question is, cigarette has been here for such a long time compare to e cigs, why all the sudden fuss?
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QUOTE(akifariqarisya @ Jan 21 2013, 10:04 AM)
E-cigar tu kira langkah berhenti la... Gua dulu isap dunhill. So semenjak beli e-cigar dah TAK SENTUH dunhill tu. so skang just isap e-cigar. So dlm tubuh seorang perokok memerlukan nikotin dan pastinya BUKAN asap dari dunhill. E-cigar ni cuma ada nikotin yg boleh mengurangkan perokok tegar. Ada kebaikkan yg banyak dlm e-cigar ni. Rokok dunhill atau seangkatan denganya ada 4000 bahan yg bahaya tp penjualan sah disisi undang2 atas alasan apa?
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gomen ada alasan lagi gila babat besa

klinik gomen ada sediakan rawatan untuk berenti rokok, siap ada program untuk monitor progress kita sampai berenti rokok, semua PERCUMA..tapi orang yang bajet sangat bijaksana nak jugak keluar duit beli e-rokok..smalam ada ceramah dari sorg doktor, doktor tu beritahu program berhenti rokok yg gomen sediakan tak ada sambutan sampai ubat nikotin yang diorg sediakan mahal2 kat kilnik hampir nak expired x terusik..macam mana kerajaan x butthurt
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 21 2013, 10:12 AM)
gomen ada alasan lagi gila babat besa

klinik gomen ada sediakan rawatan untuk berenti rokok, siap ada program untuk monitor progress kita sampai berenti rokok, semua PERCUMA..tapi orang yang bajet sangat bijaksana nak jugak keluar duit beli e-rokok..smalam ada ceramah dari sorg doktor, doktor tu beritahu program berhenti rokok yg gomen sediakan tak ada sambutan sampai ubat nikotin yang diorg sediakan mahal2 kat kilnik hampir nak expired x terusik..macam mana kerajaan x butthurt
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The fact that I didn't know of such programs means their promotions sucks...kasi masuk tv and radio la..make if frequent.. huhuhu
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QUOTE(akifariqarisya @ Jan 21 2013, 10:04 AM)
E-cigar tu kira langkah berhenti la... Gua dulu isap dunhill. So semenjak beli e-cigar dah TAK SENTUH dunhill tu. so skang just isap e-cigar. So dlm tubuh seorang perokok memerlukan nikotin dan pastinya BUKAN asap dari dunhill. E-cigar ni cuma ada nikotin yg boleh mengurangkan perokok tegar. Ada kebaikkan yg banyak dlm e-cigar ni. Rokok dunhill atau seangkatan denganya ada 4000 bahan yg bahaya tp penjualan sah disisi undang2 atas alasan apa?
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Untuk berapa lama? Krang ada yg tak berenti langsung. Continue e-cig terus.
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Duit bro, duit... No tax, no income
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QUOTE(akifariqarisya @ Jan 21 2013, 10:04 AM)
E-cigar tu kira langkah berhenti la... Gua dulu isap dunhill. So semenjak beli e-cigar dah TAK SENTUH dunhill tu. so skang just isap e-cigar. So dlm tubuh seorang perokok memerlukan nikotin dan pastinya BUKAN asap dari dunhill. E-cigar ni cuma ada nikotin yg boleh mengurangkan perokok tegar. Ada kebaikkan yg banyak dlm e-cigar ni. Rokok dunhill atau seangkatan denganya ada 4000 bahan yg bahaya tp penjualan sah disisi undang2 atas alasan apa?
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 21 2013, 11:12 AM)
gomen ada alasan lagi gila babat besa

klinik gomen ada sediakan rawatan untuk berenti rokok, siap ada program untuk monitor progress kita sampai berenti rokok, semua PERCUMA..tapi orang yang bajet sangat bijaksana nak jugak keluar duit beli e-rokok..smalam ada ceramah dari sorg doktor, doktor tu beritahu program berhenti rokok yg gomen sediakan tak ada sambutan sampai ubat nikotin yang diorg sediakan mahal2 kat kilnik hampir nak expired x terusik..macam mana kerajaan x butthurt
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kenapa orang taknak pergi attent program berhenti merokok?

1. Orang nak kena kerja, nak amik MC sebab nk attend program? Ko GILE?
2. Boleh jamin success ke benda tuh?
3. Boleh hilang ketagihan?
4. Ko komen lebih2 ni ko hisap rokok ke tak?

Last date aku hisap rokok Dunhill Menthol LIght adalah pada 21hb September 2012. Sampai sekarang aku tak sentuh lagi rokok selepas aku hisap E-Cig. Ko adoo?
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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Jan 21 2013, 11:23 AM)
Untuk berapa lama? Krang ada yg tak berenti langsung. Continue e-cig terus.
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aku hisap e-cig ni lagi pon bukan sebab ketagih e-cig sangat. Tapi lebih kepada Hobby dah. Kadang2 tertinggal PV kat rumah satu hari, lek je lagi.
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 10:30 AM)
kenapa orang taknak pergi attent program berhenti merokok?

1. Orang nak kena kerja, nak amik MC sebab nk attend program? Ko GILE?
2. Boleh jamin success ke benda tuh?
3. Boleh hilang ketagihan?
4. Ko komen lebih2 ni ko hisap rokok ke tak?

Last date aku hisap rokok Dunhill Menthol LIght adalah pada 21hb September 2012. Sampai sekarang aku tak sentuh lagi rokok selepas aku hisap E-Cig. Ko adoo?
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Gua tak pena isap rokok. Ko adoo? tongue.gif
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kenapa orang taknak pergi attent program berhenti merokok?

1. Orang nak kena kerja, nak amik MC sebab nk attend program? Ko GILE?
2. Boleh jamin success ke benda tuh?
3. Boleh hilang ketagihan?
4. Ko komen lebih2 ni ko hisap rokok ke tak?

Last date aku hisap rokok Dunhill Menthol LIght adalah pada 21hb September 2012. Sampai sekarang aku tak sentuh lagi rokok selepas aku hisap E-Cig. Ko adoo?
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 10:30 AM)
kenapa orang taknak pergi attent program berhenti merokok?

1. Orang nak kena kerja, nak amik MC sebab nk attend program? Ko GILE?
2. Boleh jamin success ke benda tuh?
3. Boleh hilang ketagihan?
4. Ko komen lebih2 ni ko hisap rokok ke tak?

Last date aku hisap rokok Dunhill Menthol LIght adalah pada 21hb September 2012. Sampai sekarang aku tak sentuh lagi rokok selepas aku hisap E-Cig. Ko adoo?
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Dah syok hisap e-cig lettew.....takde niat pong nak berenti merokok
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 10:33 AM)
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Aku dah try banyak benda2 nk berhenti rokok ni.

1. Niquatin - nokharom, aku amik yg brape mg ntah, yg berat punye. Sejam 1st masa hisap pil tuh, jantung debar2 sebab nicotin masok lam darah. After 15 mins, terus cucuh rokok balik.
2. Nicotin patch - aku tak hingat brand apa, ni memang satu benda sampah aku terus terang cakap
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QUOTE(carbike @ Jan 21 2013, 10:34 AM)
Dah syok hisap e-cig lettew.....takde niat pong nak berenti merokok
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buat kemenda nak berhenti ada alternatif yg selamat , tak payah nak suffer ketagih lepas makan. isap e-cig ni lagi elok dari kedarah nasik kandaq mamak ari ari lagi bahaya
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 10:30 AM)
kenapa orang taknak pergi attent program berhenti merokok?

1. Orang nak kena kerja, nak amik MC sebab nk attend program? Ko GILE?
2. Boleh jamin success ke benda tuh?
3. Boleh hilang ketagihan?
4. Ko komen lebih2 ni ko hisap rokok ke tak?

Last date aku hisap rokok Dunhill Menthol LIght adalah pada 21hb September 2012. Sampai sekarang aku tak sentuh lagi rokok selepas aku hisap E-Cig. Ko adoo?
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1.tgk kompeni , ade yg supportive, takde annual leave ke?
2.kalau takde hati nak berhenti mmg tak payah pergi
3.kalau takde hati nak berhenti mmg tak payah pergi
4.hisap

tak tahan bebudak opis ni hisap e-cig nak poyo2 mcm superior pulak masa isap tu. masa tarik tu ade buat muka mcm nak mintak penumbuk shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(carbike @ Jan 21 2013, 11:34 AM)
Dah syok hisap e-cig lettew.....takde niat pong nak berenti merokok
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 10:36 AM)
1.tgk kompeni , ade yg supportive, takde annual leave ke?
2.kalau takde hati nak berhenti mmg tak payah pergi
3.kalau takde hati nak berhenti mmg tak payah pergi
4.hisap

tak tahan bebudak opis ni hisap e-cig nak poyo2 mcm superior pulak masa isap tu. masa tarik tu ade buat muka mcm nak mintak penumbuk  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(redruby @ Jan 21 2013, 10:36 AM)
buat kemenda nak berhenti ada alternatif yg selamat , tak payah nak suffer ketagih lepas makan. isap e-cig ni lagi elok dari kedarah nasik kandaq mamak ari ari lagi bahaya
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apa faedah isap e-cig ni? Boleh tolong listkan? whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
kalau banyak benefit jap aku pi beli satu whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 11:36 AM)
1.tgk kompeni , ade yg supportive, takde annual leave ke?
2.kalau takde hati nak berhenti mmg tak payah pergi
3.kalau takde hati nak berhenti mmg tak payah pergi
4.hisap

tak tahan bebudak opis ni hisap e-cig nak poyo2 mcm superior pulak masa isap tu. masa tarik tu ade buat muka mcm nak mintak penumbuk  shakehead.gif
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1. company mane yg supportive? Baik ko simpan AL untuk raya nanti. Ada faedah jugak.
2. Kalau ada hati tapi nicotin addictive dalam badan banyak takde guna gak.

yang ko senang2 butthurt orang lain hisap dengan gaya superior watpe. Diorang nk wat gaya tiruk lintang pon takdehal, bukan duit ko pon diorang guna. LOL!
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 10:36 AM)
1.tgk kompeni , ade yg supportive, takde annual leave ke?
2.kalau takde hati nak berhenti mmg tak payah pergi
3.kalau takde hati nak berhenti mmg tak payah pergi
4.hisap

tak tahan bebudak opis ni hisap e-cig nak poyo2 mcm superior pulak masa isap tu. masa tarik tu ade buat muka mcm nak mintak penumbuk  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(carbike @ Jan 21 2013, 11:38 AM)
apa faedah isap e-cig ni? Boleh tolong listkan? whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
kalau banyak benefit jap aku pi beli satu  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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spesis macam ko nih tak payah la vape. Buat rosak community je.
Japgi mesti pegi vape kat dalam shopping mall. Jenis budak2 baru nak up.
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apa faedah isap e-cig ni? Boleh tolong listkan? whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
kalau banyak benefit jap aku pi beli satu  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 10:38 AM)
1. company mane yg supportive? Baik ko simpan AL untuk raya nanti. Ada faedah jugak.
2. Kalau ada hati tapi nicotin addictive dalam badan banyak takde guna gak.

yang ko senang2 butthurt orang lain hisap dengan gaya superior watpe. Diorang nk wat gaya tiruk lintang pon takdehal, bukan duit ko pon diorang guna. LOL!
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1. kalau kata program takde faedah so takleh nak tolong la
2. nicotin patch tak jalan sebab mulut nak hisap2 so pikir sendiri la

tak butthurt pun tapi kalau dah berlagak nak isap dalam opis sebab (e-cig ni bukan rokok) apecer

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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 11:40 AM)
1. kalau kata program takde faedah so takleh nak tolong la
2. nicotin patch tak jalan sebab mulut nak hisap2 so pikir sendiri la

tak butthurt pun tapi kalau dah berlagak nak isap dalam opis sebab (e-cig ni bukan rokok) apecer

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1. ko pnah pegi program tuh? Cakap saje takde guna bang.
2. ko hisap rokok ke tak?

tuh problem opis ko der. ko gi tampor je seko2 kat situ jugak.
opis aku tak leh vape dalam opis, kena gi smoking area jugak camne2 pon.
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 10:40 AM)
1. kalau kata program takde faedah so takleh nak tolong la
2. nicotin patch tak jalan sebab mulut nak hisap2 so pikir sendiri la

tak butthurt pun tapi kalau dah berlagak nak isap dalam opis sebab (e-cig ni bukan rokok) apecer

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isap lam opis pon ape masalahnya , busuk ke , kaco org ka ? isap takleh buat kerja ka ?
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 10:40 AM)
1. kalau kata program takde faedah so takleh nak tolong la
2. nicotin patch tak jalan sebab mulut nak hisap2 so pikir sendiri la

tak butthurt pun tapi kalau dah berlagak nak isap dalam opis sebab (e-cig ni bukan rokok) apecer

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kirenye ko nak ban sebab budak2 opis ko isap dalam opis? weldan.
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isap lam opis pon ape masalahnya , busuk ke , kaco org ka ? isap takleh buat kerja ka ?
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takleh vape kat tempat non-smoking area bro.
firstly kita sebagai vaper kena jaga attitude. Most of the people memang ignorant dan bodoh. U cant blame them sebab memang azali nya diorang bodoh. So kita kena start educate them and jaga the boundary. Vape in the smoking area only. Vape smart.
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1. kalau kata program takde faedah so takleh nak tolong la
2. nicotin patch tak jalan sebab mulut nak hisap2 so pikir sendiri la

tak butthurt pun tapi kalau dah berlagak nak isap dalam opis sebab (e-cig ni bukan rokok) apecer

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mesti ko dibenci ramai lam opis
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sorry la buat tokey2 vape marah, saya hanya berkata apa yang tersurat dihati
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 10:30 AM)
kenapa orang taknak pergi attent program berhenti merokok?

1. Orang nak kena kerja, nak amik MC sebab nk attend program? Ko GILE?
2. Boleh jamin success ke benda tuh?
3. Boleh hilang ketagihan?
4. Ko komen lebih2 ni ko hisap rokok ke tak?

Last date aku hisap rokok Dunhill Menthol LIght adalah pada 21hb September 2012. Sampai sekarang aku tak sentuh lagi rokok selepas aku hisap E-Cig. Ko adoo?
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Dude, if you really want to quit, you will find way. Dont give excuses! Just make you looked lame.

BTW, this e-cig has been banned in many country, like OZ, NZ and Canada. The chemical used posed to be more harmful than regular cigarette, but of coz those cigarette sold in those country has lower tar and nicotine.

I am a smoker and I dont support BN at all. Im just annoyed at those that barking at the wrong tree and are too lazy to google on the matter. Do not discredit nor assume anything.
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E cig ke rokok biasa ka sesapa hembus direct kat muka aku memang aku debik sampai lembik bibir tu nk isap lag hahahha nk isap rokok pun kena la ada sivik skit ni sampai dlm keadaan berhawa dingin pun nk isap kejadah huhu
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QUOTE(lauyah @ Jan 21 2013, 10:45 AM)
Dude, if you really want to quit, you will find way. Dont give excuses! Just make you looked lame.

BTW, this e-cig has been banned in many country, like OZ, NZ and Canada. The chemical used posed to be more harmful than regular cigarette, but of coz those cigarette sold in those country has lower tar and nicotine.

I am a smoker and I dont support BN at all. Im just annoyed at those that barking at the wrong tree and are too lazy to google on the matter. Do not discredit nor assume anything.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_ci...Health_concerns

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jika anda bkn perokok, jgn merokok.
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some people are just so stupid. and whats even more interesting is that some of those who butthurt when the menteri made that statement, also actually came up with the same shit broscience like marijuana is bad for your health. stupidity is a vicious cycle.
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Health concerns

Proponents of electronic cigarettes often claim that electronic cigarettes deliver the experience of smoking while eliminating the smell and health risks associated with tobacco smoke.[18][19] The base liquids - which include propylene glycol (PG), vegetable glycerin (VG), and sometimes polyethylene glycol 400 (PEG400) - have been widely used as a food additive, as a base solution for personal care products such as toothpaste, and in medical devices such as asthma inhalers. However, the health effects of inhaling nicotine vapor into lungs are a subject of uncertainty. The health effects of exhaled nicotine and other substances present in the vapor are also uncertain but seem likely to be far less harmful than tobacco smoke.
The fact that e-cigarettes may resemble real tobacco cigarettes has been noted by both supporters and detractors. While e-cigarettes may give nicotine addicts more or less the same amount of nicotine as a conventional cigarette, they do not produce the same toxic smoke that can cause lung disease and cancer when inhaled over time. Since there are no products of combustion to be inhaled, no tobacco toxins are inhaled besides nicotine.[20]
[edit]World Health Organization
The World Health Organization stated in September 2008 that no rigorous, peer-reviewed studies have been conducted showing that the electronic cigarette is a safe and effective nicotine replacement therapy. WHO does not discount the possibility that the electronic cigarette could be useful as a smoking cessation aid, but insisted that claims that electronic cigarettes can help smokers quit need to be backed up by clinical studies and toxicity analyses and operate within the proper regulatory framework.

American Association of Public Health Physicians
As of April 2010, The American Association of Public Health Physicians (AAPHP) supports electronic cigarettes sales to adults "because the possibility exists to save the lives of four million of the eight million current adult American smokers who will otherwise die of a tobacco-related illness over the next twenty years." However, the AAPHP is against sales to minors.[31] The AAPHP recommends that the FDA reclassify the electronic cigarette as a tobacco product (as opposed to a drug/device combination).[32][33]

Boston University School of Public Health study
A study by researchers at the Boston University School of Public Health in 2010 concluded that electronic cigarettes were safer than real cigarettes and may aid in breaking the habit of smoking. Researchers said that while further studies on electronic cigarettes were needed, "few, if any, chemicals at levels detected in electronic cigarettes raise serious health concerns." Electronic cigarettes were found to be "much safer" than traditional tobacco ones, and had a level of toxicity similar to existing nicotine replacements.
According to this report, the level of carcinogens in electronic cigarettes is up to 1,000 times lower than regular cigarettes, and early evidence shows that electronic cigarettes may help people to stop smoking by simulating a tobacco cigarette.


Cigarette and liquor - two of the main income to Goeverment, if they want to ban Cigarette and liquor, they will do like wht they did to drugs...cigarette/ liquor manufacturer doesnt make much profit compare to tax to BN Gov
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QUOTE(lauyah @ Jan 21 2013, 11:45 AM)
Dude, if you really want to quit, you will find way. Dont give excuses! Just make you looked lame.

BTW, this e-cig has been banned in many country, like OZ, NZ and Canada. The chemical used posed to be more harmful than regular cigarette, but of coz those cigarette sold in those country has lower tar and nicotine.

I am a smoker and I dont support BN at all. Im just annoyed at those that barking at the wrong tree and are too lazy to google on the matter. Do not discredit nor assume anything.
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I think you are the one who is lazy and ignorant.

In UK and US it is not banned. In Phillipine, Indonesia, Thailand, it is not banned.

Go and read and educate yourselves first.

I cant quit, thus I'm choosing the safer way to smoke, E-Cig.

Have u tried quitting? How many packs you were smoking in a day?

Read this from CASAA. Dont know about casaa? Educate yourselves first mate.

CASAA
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Hairan macam mana boleh ketagih rokok. Sedap ke menatang haram tu?
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QUOTE(jack~daniel @ Jan 21 2013, 10:50 AM)
Health concerns

Proponents of electronic cigarettes often claim that electronic cigarettes deliver the experience of smoking while eliminating the smell and health risks associated with tobacco smoke.[18][19] The base liquids - which include propylene glycol (PG), vegetable glycerin (VG), and sometimes polyethylene glycol 400 (PEG400) - have been widely used as a food additive, as a base solution for personal care products such as toothpaste, and in medical devices such as asthma inhalers. However, the health effects of inhaling nicotine vapor into lungs are a subject of uncertainty. The health effects of exhaled nicotine and other substances present in the vapor are also uncertain but seem likely to be far less harmful than tobacco smoke.
The fact that e-cigarettes may resemble real tobacco cigarettes has been noted by both supporters and detractors. While e-cigarettes may give nicotine addicts more or less the same amount of nicotine as a conventional cigarette, they do not produce the same toxic smoke that can cause lung disease and cancer when inhaled over time. Since there are no products of combustion to be inhaled, no tobacco toxins are inhaled besides nicotine.[20]
[edit]World Health Organization
The World Health Organization stated in September 2008 that no rigorous, peer-reviewed studies have been conducted showing that the electronic cigarette is a safe and effective nicotine replacement therapy. WHO does not discount the possibility that the electronic cigarette could be useful as a smoking cessation aid, but insisted that claims that electronic cigarettes can help smokers quit need to be backed up by clinical studies and toxicity analyses and operate within the proper regulatory framework.

American Association of Public Health Physicians
As of April 2010, The American Association of Public Health Physicians (AAPHP) supports electronic cigarettes sales to adults "because the possibility exists to save the lives of four million of the eight million current adult American smokers who will otherwise die of a tobacco-related illness over the next twenty years." However, the AAPHP is against sales to minors.[31] The AAPHP recommends that the FDA reclassify the electronic cigarette as a tobacco product (as opposed to a drug/device combination).[32][33]

Boston University School of Public Health study
A study by researchers at the Boston University School of Public Health in 2010 concluded that electronic cigarettes were safer than real cigarettes and may aid in breaking the habit of smoking. Researchers said that while further studies on electronic cigarettes were needed, "few, if any, chemicals at levels detected in electronic cigarettes raise serious health concerns." Electronic cigarettes were found to be "much safer" than traditional tobacco ones, and had a level of toxicity similar to existing nicotine replacements.
According to this report, the level of carcinogens in electronic cigarettes is up to 1,000 times lower than regular cigarettes, and early evidence shows that electronic cigarettes may help people to stop smoking by simulating a tobacco cigarette.
Cigarette and liquor - two of the main income to Goeverment, if they want to ban Cigarette and liquor, they will do like wht they did to drugs...cigarette/ liquor manufacturer doesnt make much profit compare to tax to BN Gov
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biar je diorang hisap.. nanti mati pun nak salahkan 'bee and'... isap nenen lagi best brooooo.. nyaman....
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Kalau tak berhenti guna e-cigar pun rasanya takde masalah kerana ia tidak mendatangkan bahaya yg melampau sgt berbanding rokok biasa. Kalau nak kira kronik... Minyak masak pun bahaya.. Kolestrol tu...
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yg tambah dungu lg beli e cig brand cap ayam.cina brand.hisap skali racun2 tu masuk..
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Kalau tak berhenti guna e-cigar pun rasanya takde masalah kerana ia tidak mendatangkan bahaya yg melampau sgt berbanding rokok biasa. Kalau nak kira kronik... Minyak masak pun bahaya.. Kolestrol tu...
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QUOTE(izaydi @ Jan 21 2013, 12:01 PM)
yg tambah dungu lg beli e cig brand cap ayam.cina brand.hisap skali racun2 tu masuk..
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takde racun pon bro..

e-cig skang mana ada cam zaman dulu guna catridge built in camtuh..
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lancap pun bahaya jugak.. korang buat jugak perbuatan terkutuk tu... hehehe.. lariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii....
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QUOTE(redruby @ Jan 21 2013, 07:36 AM)
Menteri kesihatan cakap e-cig boleh membawa kepada penyakit kronik ,
wahlau lu doktor ka sudah buat research ka ,
Sepanjang aku baca research dari DR daripada seluruh dunia
propylene glycol dan nicotine tak akan menyebabkan penyakit sebab dua dua bahan ni selamat kecuali nicotine ko ambil sebaldi buat kopi.

Di khabarkan hanya farmasi dan pengamal perubatan bertauliah akan di beri lesen untuk menjual e-cig ni. Maksudnya harga akan naik berkali ganda sebab dia akan tax e-cig ni macam dia tax rokok biasa.

Ini lah nasib hidup dalam kerajaan penindas rakyat. makesure pru gulingkan kerajaan bodoh ni.
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 11:02 AM)
takde racun pon bro..

e-cig skang mana ada cam zaman dulu guna catridge built in camtuh..
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bro..dia punya perisa tu kita tak tau dia campur chemical apa..kalau ada background detail ingredient.bole nmpk bnda tu.mcm dekat danau kota.banyak org hisap cap ayam punya e.cig.research tu kena ada kalau nk main benda2 mcm ni.nnti aniaya badan
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Kempen 'tak nak' merokok

berhenti merokok


meanwhile at back

ban e ciggie, farmasi can only issue out nicotine
Nicorette 2mg RM14 per strip, 4mg RM20

semua berhenti rokok/ replacement mahai!!!!!

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QUOTE(izaydi @ Jan 21 2013, 12:05 PM)
bro..dia punya perisa tu kita tak tau dia campur chemical apa..kalau ada background detail ingredient.bole nmpk bnda tu.mcm dekat danau kota.banyak org hisap cap ayam punya e.cig.research tu kena ada kalau nk main benda2 mcm ni.nnti aniaya badan
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nampak sangat bodo kan.
Liquid e-cig ni bro, guna 2 main substance. PG+VG. 3rd substance adalah flavor, for bakery.
Racun celah mane nye nak letak bro. Racun mende? TAR? Rokok tembakau je ade benda tuh.. LOL!
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Mcm takde benda lain nak isap...........
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 11:07 AM)
nampak sangat bodo kan.
Liquid e-cig ni bro, guna 2 main substance. PG+VG. 3rd substance adalah flavor, for bakery.
Racun celah mane nye nak letak bro. Racun mende? TAR? Rokok tembakau je ade benda tuh.. LOL!
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e-ciggy where got cool? obviously real ciggies are way cooler.

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Thread escalated from menteris to arguement stop smoke ecig vs real cig. All among marhein citizen. If me is menteri ,me wouldve grab popcorn and lol
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QUOTE(izaydi @ Jan 21 2013, 12:09 PM)
aku da ckp cap ayam bro,cap ayam..ko tau brg cina letak apa slalu.tak penmah ikut piawaan.jgn ignorance sgt..
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hhaha..
cap ayam mende. DIY liquid bersepah. Liquid China yg popular first2, Hangsen ngan Dekang. Masa awal2 dlu sedap la. Lama2 dah jumpa liquid USA lagi sedap USA. LOL!

Benda ni takde dah istilah cap ayam etc bro. Sebab substance liquid ni, ko campor bende alah lain, memang xkan jadi sedap etc. Kalau xsedap, jangan kata nak habiskan, baru sekali dua puff, dah campak tepi dah.
Dan satu lagi, masok substance2 macam ko cakap, "RACUN", tak keluar asap nanti brooo..
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 11:07 AM)
nampak sangat bodo kan.
Liquid e-cig ni bro, guna 2 main substance. PG+VG. 3rd substance adalah flavor, for bakery.
Racun celah mane nye nak letak bro. Racun mende? TAR? Rokok tembakau je ade benda tuh.. LOL!
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QUOTE(izaydi @ Jan 21 2013, 11:09 AM)
aku da ckp cap ayam bro,cap ayam..ko tau brg cina letak apa slalu.tak penmah ikut piawaan.jgn ignorance sgt..
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 11:12 AM)
hhaha..
cap ayam mende. DIY liquid bersepah. Liquid China yg popular first2, Hangsen ngan Dekang. Masa awal2 dlu sedap la. Lama2 dah jumpa liquid USA lagi sedap USA. LOL!

Benda ni takde dah istilah cap ayam etc bro. Sebab substance liquid ni, ko campor bende alah lain, memang xkan jadi sedap etc. Kalau xsedap, jangan kata nak habiskan, baru sekali dua puff, dah campak tepi dah.
Dan satu lagi, masok substance2 macam ko cakap, "RACUN", tak keluar asap nanti brooo..
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pastu ade ati nak ngata orang lain ignorant. kalau tak isap, dok diam je la. nak bising lebih lak laugh.gif

QUOTE(redruby @ Jan 21 2013, 11:13 AM)
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QUOTE(akifariqarisya @ Jan 21 2013, 12:12 PM)
Sebenarnya kalau semua pengguna e-cigar ni ckp nak bg duit kat gomen rasanya diluluskan kot... Hahahaha...
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dah bagi dah tax dah pon bro.. Tiap2 PV yg masok, sangkut kat Kastam, dah bayar TAX siap2 dah lagi. 20~30% jugak la.

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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 11:12 AM)
hhaha..
cap ayam mende. DIY liquid bersepah. Liquid China yg popular first2, Hangsen ngan Dekang. Masa awal2 dlu sedap la. Lama2 dah jumpa liquid USA lagi sedap USA. LOL!

Benda ni takde dah istilah cap ayam etc bro. Sebab substance liquid ni, ko campor bende alah lain, memang xkan jadi sedap etc. Kalau xsedap, jangan kata nak habiskan, baru sekali dua puff, dah campak tepi dah.
Dan satu lagi, masok substance2 macam ko cakap, "RACUN", tak keluar asap nanti brooo..
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takpa.teruskan believe tu.kalau ko background chemistry maybe ko faham kot.have a nice day ahead hisap e.cig.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 11:16 AM)
dah bagi dah tax dah pon bro.. Tiap2 PV yg masok, sangkut kat Kastam, dah bayar TAX siap2 dah lagi. 20~30% jugak la.
tak tipu bro. dah ada.
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saya tak faham bahasa rempit ni..
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QUOTE(izaydi @ Jan 21 2013, 11:17 AM)
takpa.teruskan believe tu.kalau ko background chemistry maybe ko faham kot.have a nice day ahead hisap e.cig..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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takpa.teruskan believe tu.kalau ko background chemistry maybe ko faham kot.have a nice day ahead hisap e.cig..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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gua pakai itaste
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just avoid amik e.cig liquid yang ada diacetyl..bahaya.sbb dlu e.cig pakai diacetyl..so kalau nak pilih.pilih liquid yg diacetyl free
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QUOTE(redruby @ Jan 21 2013, 07:36 AM)
Menteri kesihatan cakap e-cig boleh membawa kepada penyakit kronik ,
wahlau lu doktor ka sudah buat research ka ,
Sepanjang aku baca research dari DR daripada seluruh dunia
propylene glycol dan nicotine tak akan menyebabkan penyakit sebab dua dua bahan ni selamat kecuali nicotine ko ambil sebaldi buat kopi.

Di khabarkan hanya farmasi dan pengamal perubatan bertauliah akan di beri lesen untuk menjual e-cig ni. Maksudnya harga akan naik berkali ganda sebab dia akan tax e-cig ni macam dia tax rokok biasa.

Ini lah nasib hidup dalam kerajaan penindas rakyat. makesure pru gulingkan kerajaan bodoh ni.
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QUOTE(izaydi @ Jan 21 2013, 12:25 PM)
just avoid amik e.cig liquid yang ada diacetyl..bahaya.sbb dlu e.cig pakai diacetyl..so kalau nak pilih.pilih liquid yg diacetyl free
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abang memang betul.

elakkan dari e-liquid yg guna diacetyl.
Mostly liquid yg guna diacetyl untuk naikkan flavor Creamy/Butter. Macam milkshake etc.
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Haih... Kesian perokok2 kite... Merana kerana ketagihan nikotin. Kan bagus kalau langsung tak pernah start pun. Takyah la melalak bergaduh pasal rokok atau e-cig. Sekali lagi kesian diberikan.
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Even normal cigs are haram.

Let alone an E- one~
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QUOTE(poyohebat @ Jan 21 2013, 11:36 AM)
Even normal cigs are haram.

Let alone an E- one~
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Dah jadi tahi asap tu, hamba asap jugak. Tak kirala ecig ke rokok ke.

Macam tahi ganja jugak. Yg ni sedap takde racun tikus yang tu asli tak campur. Nak bagos sangat berenti terus
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"menteri bodoh dari BN" is redundant.
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What happen if menteri bodoh dari PR?

Shitstorm right~
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ask them straight to the face, if i blow u with normal cig smoke and e cig smoke, which 1 u prefer? idiots. zzz
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QUOTE(poyohebat @ Jan 21 2013, 11:52 AM)
What happen if menteri bodoh dari PR?

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Tadaa!
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Cerita bab e-cigar dah le.. Sampai masuk politik pulak... Adeh..
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boleh salahkan gov't pasal rokok doh.gif

kalau tak cukup makan boleh terima lagi
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QUOTE(akifariqarisya @ Jan 21 2013, 01:41 PM)
Cerita bab e-cigar dah le.. Sampai masuk politik pulak... Adeh..
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QUOTE(izaydi @ Jan 21 2013, 10:48 AM)
aku kalau e cig ke rokok ke mmg anti..yg perokok tu smpi skrg mmg aku maki.da pandai rokok.puntung rokok tu buang la elok2.macibai punya perangai buang merata2.
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Yg sebenarnya menteri yg yg keluarkan kenyataan ni yg bermasalah. Kalau dia tak timbulkan issue ni rasanya takde la masalah sgt pun. Ntah2 menteri yg lain pun malas nak amik port issue ni.
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menteri tu hisap rokok ke?
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menteri tu hisap rokok ke?
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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Jan 21 2013, 12:53 PM)
diaorang hisap nenen rosmah
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ask them straight to the face, if i blow u with normal cig smoke and e cig smoke, which 1 u prefer? idiots. zzz
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The issue is out of these two, which one healthier? Should not opt for healthier one?

This is called taking steps, soon perhaps they will quit. Need transition. Idiot.

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Cukupla rasanya kalau kita tanya dia apa maksud kronik yg di katakan? Apa berbezaan kronik rokok biasa dgn e-cigar.. Mau pulak nanti dia cerita masalah haiwan2 yg lain... And then listen... Listen.... Listen... Hihi
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huah ban ke?

Baru je dapat lobang masuk 1 e-cig RM50, market price RM120-190.
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haha.. just in time.. ask the minister, why no ban cigarette, liquor, cough syrup, panadol all together? uncontrollable substance my ass
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QUOTE(rockstar_ @ Jan 21 2013, 01:19 PM)
haha.. just in time.. ask the minister, why no ban cigarette, liquor, cough syrup, panadol all together? uncontrollable substance my ass
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This part is to ensure your safety, what if the pharmacy just put in some weird stuff that is not good for health, you never know. If they are given license after intense checking/safety protocol to ensure your safety, why not?

inb4 license means tax

inb4 tax means songlap

inb4 songlap means perokok marah

inb4 marah means boikot

inb4 if e-cig berleluasa gomen no money, because no tax.
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jan 21 2013, 08:35 AM)
ask them straight to the face, if i blow u with normal cig smoke and e cig smoke, which 1 u prefer? idiots. zzz
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Senang la bg non smokers utk cakap..
Mmg tak dinafikan e-cig pun ade bahayanye tapi kalau nk dibandingkan ia lebih selamat dan bersih dari rokok analog..
Kalo bace statement wikipedia pun dia ckp cmtu..
Kalo bukti lagi, g la wat experiment sendiri..
So conclusion aku senang je, government mmg nak kaut untung lebih..
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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Jan 21 2013, 08:34 AM)
habis tu yang racun2 dalam rokok biasa tu selamat la ye?
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QUOTE(mohamad_aizuddin @ Jan 21 2013, 01:51 PM)
Senang la bg non smokers utk cakap..
Mmg tak dinafikan e-cig pun ade bahayanye tapi kalau nk dibandingkan ia lebih selamat dan bersih dari rokok analog..
Kalo bace statement wikipedia pun dia ckp cmtu..
Kalo bukti lagi, g la wat experiment sendiri..
So conclusion aku senang je, government mmg nak kaut untung lebih..
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Biasa la. Goverment pandai buat duit dengan orang bodoh. Harga rokok jack up tinggi2 pun ada orang bodoh beli gak. Aku sokong kalau vaping stroking apa ni di naikkan 110% tax dia. Lepas tu bole bagi BR1M Iphone plak.
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Jan 21 2013, 01:12 PM)
huah ban ke?

Baru je dapat lobang masuk 1 e-cig RM50, market price RM120-190.
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lambat ni bero. orang dah amek 1 e-cig rm25 dah double up untung dah.
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QUOTE(junkredish @ Jan 21 2013, 02:37 PM)
sape plak yg kata rokok biasa selamat

dua2 pon ada nikotin, dua2 pon x selamat
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habis tu tumbuhan yang ada nikotine tak selamat la ye?
yang membuatkan nikotin jadi tak selamat kalau ia bercampur dengan racun macam tar, carbon monoxide, cyanide etch
http://www.livestrong.com/article/293186-l...ntain-nicotine/
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ini bangang.
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berhenti merokok. problem solve
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QUOTE(kingkong999 @ Jan 21 2013, 02:51 PM)
lambat ni bero. orang dah amek 1 e-cig rm25 dah double up untung dah.
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sorry la.. e-cig yg aku amik tu ada LED , showing data berapa jam , berapa click dah tekan..etc etc. so ok ok je la.
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berhenti merokok. problem solve
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cakap di bibir mulut senangla bero.. nak berenti merokok bukan macam berenti melancap, ia memerlukan willpower yang sangat tinggi.. elokla kalau perokok-perokok ni pakai e-cigarette ni, at least bahaya second hand smoke dah kurang. menteri yang cakap ni sangatlah bodoh dan kuat melancap
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QUOTE(mohamad_aizuddin @ Jan 21 2013, 01:51 PM)
Senang la bg non smokers utk cakap..
Mmg tak dinafikan e-cig pun ade bahayanye tapi kalau nk dibandingkan ia lebih selamat dan bersih dari rokok analog..
Kalo bace statement wikipedia pun dia ckp cmtu..
Kalo bukti lagi, g la wat experiment sendiri..
So conclusion aku senang je, government mmg nak kaut untung lebih..
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kerajaan dah buat insentif berhenti rokok percuma kat mana2 klinik kerajaan..semua kaunseling, consultation pakar, tablet2 nikotin x kire tahap, & pemantauan adalah 100% percuma..x boleh dtg pagi, dtg tengahari pun bole..bukannya suruh datang tiap2 hari, cuma ikut temujanji yang dah diatur...tablet nikotin yang disediakan mmg mahal, & kerajaan rugi byk kat situ sbb hampir takder org yang dtg untuk masuk program berhenti rokok tu..skali ade plak e-cigarette yang walaupun dikatakan x bahaya, tapi WHO pun kate e-rokok ni xder bukti boleh hentikan tabiat merokok..tapi yang e-rokok ni pulak yang org dok rebut2 nak beli..macam mana kerajaan x butthurt..tablet nikotin yg diorg provide haram saper pun x nak amik, e-rokok yang placebo ni plak yang direbut-rebut org
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Jan 21 2013, 03:00 PM)
sorry la.. e-cig yg aku amik tu ada LED , showing data berapa jam , berapa click dah tekan..etc etc. so ok ok je la.
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eceh! sombonggg betul? ahahahahha.. kongsi lobang bero? amacam? sama2 untung?
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QUOTE(rockstar_ @ Jan 21 2013, 03:01 PM)
cakap di bibir mulut senangla bero.. nak berenti merokok bukan macam berenti melancap, ia memerlukan willpower yang sangat tinggi.. elokla kalau perokok-perokok ni pakai e-cigarette ni, at least bahaya second hand smoke dah kurang. menteri yang cakap ni sangatlah bodoh dan kuat melancap
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menteri yang cakap ni sangatlah bodoh dan kuat melancap . hahaha. ko ni ada hal ka dgn melancap
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QUOTE(redruby @ Jan 21 2013, 07:36 AM)
Menteri kesihatan cakap e-cig boleh membawa kepada penyakit kronik ,
wahlau lu doktor ka sudah buat research ka ,
Sepanjang aku baca research dari DR daripada seluruh dunia
propylene glycol dan nicotine tak akan menyebabkan penyakit sebab dua dua bahan ni selamat kecuali nicotine ko ambil sebaldi buat kopi.

Di khabarkan hanya farmasi dan pengamal perubatan bertauliah akan di beri lesen untuk menjual e-cig ni. Maksudnya harga akan naik berkali ganda sebab dia akan tax e-cig ni macam dia tax rokok biasa.

Ini lah nasib hidup dalam kerajaan penindas rakyat. makesure pru gulingkan kerajaan bodoh ni.
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Jan 21 2013, 02:41 PM)
Biasa la. Goverment pandai buat duit dengan orang bodoh. Harga rokok jack up tinggi2 pun ada orang bodoh beli gak. Aku sokong kalau vaping stroking apa ni di naikkan 110% tax dia. Lepas tu bole bagi BR1M Iphone plak.
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cakap senang bro..aku yang tak merokok ni pun tau susah berenti rokok..same je macam dadah ketagih rokok ni

QUOTE(keown83 @ Jan 21 2013, 03:02 PM)
kerajaan dah buat insentif berhenti rokok percuma kat mana2 klinik kerajaan..semua kaunseling, consultation pakar, tablet2 nikotin x kire tahap, & pemantauan adalah 100% percuma..x boleh dtg pagi, dtg tengahari pun bole..bukannya suruh datang tiap2 hari, cuma ikut temujanji yang dah diatur...tablet nikotin yang disediakan mmg mahal, & kerajaan rugi byk kat situ sbb hampir takder org yang dtg untuk masuk program berhenti rokok tu..skali ade plak e-cigarette yang walaupun dikatakan x bahaya, tapi WHO pun kate e-rokok ni xder bukti boleh hentikan tabiat merokok..tapi yang e-rokok ni pulak yang org dok rebut2 nak beli..macam mana kerajaan x butthurt..tablet nikotin yg diorg provide haram saper pun x nak amik, e-rokok yang placebo ni plak yang direbut-rebut org
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insentif kerajaan memang la bagus tapi sesambil tu tak sekat pun orang jual rokok sbb nak kaut $$$ melalau cukai..sebab tu la selalu gagal..maka doktor2 dan pegawai kerajaanlah yang bertungkus lumus buat program bagai tapi takde orang nak join.puncanya salah satu yang aku nampak ialah nak jumpa doktor tu leceh sangat..nak dapatkan champix lagi la susah nak kena referral pakar la..kaunseling 10x dulu...sbb menatang ni mahal kerajaan bukan bagi kat semua orang senang2..tapis orang yang betul2 nak berenti rokok je..rakyat maerhan pun fedap.my 2 sen
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QUOTE(johnkia @ Jan 21 2013, 03:08 PM)
menteri yang cakap ni sangatlah bodoh dan kuat melancap . hahaha. ko ni ada hal ka dgn melancap
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cubaan untuk merendahkan martabat menteri tersebut laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 21 2013, 03:15 PM)
cakap senang bro..aku yang tak merokok ni pun tau susah berenti rokok..same je macam dadah ketagih rokok ni
insentif kerajaan memang la bagus tapi sesambil tu tak sekat pun orang jual rokok sbb nak kaut $$$ melalau cukai..sebab tu la selalu gagal..maka doktor2 dan pegawai kerajaanlah yang bertungkus lumus buat program bagai tapi takde orang nak join.puncanya salah satu yang aku nampak ialah nak jumpa doktor tu leceh sangat..nak dapatkan champix lagi la susah nak kena referral pakar la..kaunseling 10x dulu...sbb menatang ni mahal kerajaan bukan bagi kat semua orang senang2..tapis orang yang betul2 nak berenti rokok je..rakyat maerhan pun fedap.my 2 sen
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kalo sume beli e-cig.... tax rokok kurang ar....rugi lar kroni2 rokok sebab e-cig takder tax tembakau
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 03:19 PM)
berani la sekat jual rokok, hari ni sekat esok terus guling
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slow2 bro..bukan hari ni terus ban..kompem la esok guling..buat la rokok ni barang terkawal ke, ketatkan penguatkuasaan ke.. sorang bleh skotak je ke sehari..then next year impose lagi undang2 ketat..ni naikkan cukai orang pun tau kerajaan saje nak buat $$
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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 21 2013, 03:23 PM)
slow2 bro..bukan hari ni terus ban..kompem la esok guling..buat la rokok ni barang terkawal ke, ketatkan penguatkuasaan ke.. sorang bleh skotak je ke sehari..then next year impose lagi undang2 ketat..ni naikkan cukai orang pun tau kerajaan saje nak buat $$
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agak-agak pakatan rakyat kasi turun harga atau guna duit rokok nak tampung pendidikan percuma?
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agak-agak pakatan rakyat kasi turun harga atau guna duit rokok nak tampung pendidikan percuma?
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pendidikan percuma?
sigh budak2 makin malas nak belajar ada la whistling.gif
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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Jan 21 2013, 03:28 PM)
pendidikan percuma?
sigh budak2 makin malas nak belajar ada la  whistling.gif
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biar la dah free ape kesah? skg bayar beribu-ribu pun ramai enjoy.


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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 03:24 PM)
agak-agak pakatan rakyat kasi turun harga atau guna duit rokok nak tampung pendidikan percuma?
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baik bayar ribu2 upgrade sekarang punya. letak world class facility lepas tu bagi kaw2 fund tanpa mengira warna kulit dan bangsa kpd student2 yang cemerlang lepas tu bagi insentif untuk researcher2 kat universiti
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QUOTE(carbike @ Jan 21 2013, 08:09 AM)
Apa kata ko berenti isap rokok terus.......lagi berfaedah
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QUOTE(rockstar_ @ Jan 21 2013, 03:34 PM)
baik bayar ribu2 upgrade sekarang punya. letak world class facility lepas tu bagi kaw2 fund tanpa mengira warna kulit dan bangsa kpd student2 yang cemerlang lepas tu bagi insentif untuk researcher2 kat universiti
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later world class facility low class mentality

today install next month kaput.

hall full of garbage

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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 03:30 PM)
biar la dah free ape kesah? skg bayar beribu-ribu pun ramai enjoy.
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nanti hampir semua enjoy sakan kalau buat pendidikan percuma
kalau nak percuma sangat biar dapat pointer gempak then tak payah bayar dah ptptn semua tu
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 03:36 PM)
later world class facility low class mentality

today install next month kaput.

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this is why i have doubt about giving free education for all.. our mentality still haven't change, we tends to abuse things for our own good
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Rokok ke tak..masalah kalau Kun Fa Ya Kun...dpt ke mengelak bro2 sis2 semua?
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QUOTE(kingkong999 @ Jan 21 2013, 03:08 PM)
eceh! sombonggg betul? ahahahahha.. kongsi lobang bero? amacam? sama2 untung?
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hahaha... I bawa masuk , jual kat u untung sikit per pcs pastu you gi cari seller. apamacam? brows.gif
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so heres i foud so far in this thread

non smokers vs smokers

non smokers-
bodo bangang takleh hisap mende lain ke lolipop ke ias cream ke...e cig? same je mende tue nak haromm (even though safer option then conventional cig)

smokers-
menteri say e cig haram...where got!!! show proff!!!, u just say that because u cannot songlap duit...
*defend e cig* defencd e cig*

conclusion
non smokers-is the real butthurt takmau mengaku salah.....

smokers of e cig clearly done their research..with the kuasa of uncle google
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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 21 2013, 03:23 PM)
slow2 bro..bukan hari ni terus ban..kompem la esok guling..buat la rokok ni barang terkawal ke, ketatkan penguatkuasaan ke.. sorang bleh skotak je ke sehari..then next year impose lagi undang2 ketat..ni naikkan cukai orang pun tau kerajaan saje nak buat $$
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pergh cakap bukan main senang macam karangan sekolah. sorang sekotak je sehari? sape nak enforce? sape nak monitor? acik hang?
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jan 21 2013, 04:01 PM)
pergh cakap bukan main senang macam karangan sekolah. sorang sekotak je sehari? sape nak enforce? sape nak monitor? acik hang?
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boleh enforce, rokok jual dekat balai polis, nak beli kena tunjuk ic, check system dah beli ke belum hari ni.

achik dia kalau polis memang boleh la monitor.
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 04:03 PM)
boleh enforce, rokok jual dekat balai polis, nak beli kena tunjuk ic, check system dah beli ke belum hari ni.

achik dia kalau polis memang boleh la monitor.
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macam itu, habis lah tax tax government tu? nak bonus nak gaji lebih tu dapat duit dari mana?
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 04:03 PM)
boleh enforce, rokok jual dekat balai polis, nak beli kena tunjuk ic, check system dah beli ke belum hari ni.

achik dia kalau polis memang boleh la monitor.
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later crime rate naik lagi 1 hal whistling.gif
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jan 21 2013, 08:35 AM)
ask them straight to the face, if i blow u with normal cig smoke and e cig smoke, which 1 u prefer? idiots. zzz
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 03:36 PM)
later world class facility low class mentality

today install next month kaput.

hall full of garbage

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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jan 21 2013, 04:01 PM)
pergh cakap bukan main senang macam karangan sekolah. sorang sekotak je sehari? sape nak enforce? sape nak monitor? acik hang?
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 04:03 PM)
boleh enforce, rokok jual dekat balai polis, nak beli kena tunjuk ic, check system dah beli ke belum hari ni.

achik dia kalau polis memang boleh la monitor.
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aku baru je nak syorkan polis..tapi tak terpikir plak kat balai. genius.jpg
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Fact = Nicotine = Cancer !!
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one e-smoker told me that he's been using e-ciggy for the past 2 years and he save lots of money and those e-ciggy he's using is not the cap ayam one but from reputable online company - the smells is strong and sedap - he told me in Singapore & in Ozzie they banned this e-ciggy because their Ministry Dept can't find any side effect to those who use e-ciggy.
Yeah!that's right - no side effect or what so ever.
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QUOTE(surefire v LED @ Jan 21 2013, 04:35 PM)
one e-smoker told me that he's been using e-ciggy for the past 2 years and he save lots of money and those e-ciggy he's using is not the cap ayam one but from reputable online company - the smells is strong and sedap - he told me in Singapore & in Ozzie they banned this e-ciggy because their Ministry Dept can't find any side effect to those who use e-ciggy.
Yeah!that's right - no side effect or what so ever.
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Both sides haven't done enough studies regarding this. However, it's already a widely and accepted fact that nicotine is dangerous.

It might be true that the government wouldn't want to lose side of income with the resurgence of e-cig, (come on, who would want to lose some money all of a sudden). However it's also worrisome that like the conventional cigarettes, 'non-approved' ciggies (i.e., smuggled) could contain 'alien' substances (even more so than the already dangerous substances in the controlled ciggies). The same could be applied to e-cig.

So to me, the call for controlling e-cig has two notions; one to control the possibly adverse effects from 'non-approved' e-cigs, and also not to lose money and support from tobacco manufacturers.
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kenyataan bodoh dari TS Berkenaan E-Cig tanpa sos
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Tulah mak /pak suruh pi belajar rajin rajin... pi sekolah isap rokok dengan rerakan.. Sampai ke tua dok isap rokok lagi. Kuar issue rokok dah tak senang duduk... saper suruh isap rokok? Nak jugak nampak bergaya ..percaya sangat filem filem Hollywood tuh semua...

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Jan 21 2013, 04:12 PM)
Fact = Nicotine = Cancer !!
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kuasa gugel jangan tak guna

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/33023.php
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QUOTE(carbike @ Jan 21 2013, 08:09 AM)
Apa kata ko berenti isap rokok terus.......lagi berfaedah
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QUOTE(hafiez @ Jan 21 2013, 07:39 AM)
Jap jap bro aku call anwar.

Bagitau dia letak isu ni dalam manifesto.

Hari ni pakatan rakyat tawan putrajaya, esok e-cig tak harrroommm! Non taxable katanya.

Pak anwar ni dah bangun pagi ke blom. Jap k bro..
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hahaha... I bawa masuk , jual kat u untung sikit per pcs pastu you gi cari seller. apamacam?  brows.gif
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cantek ni. tapi harga cantek jugak la bero? amacam? pm skit spec item ngan harga kat inbox. bisnes bisnes! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kingkong999 @ Jan 22 2013, 09:59 AM)
cantek ni. tapi harga cantek jugak la bero? amacam? pm skit spec item ngan harga kat inbox. bisnes bisnes!  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 10:30 AM)
kenapa orang taknak pergi attent program berhenti merokok?

1. Orang nak kena kerja, nak amik MC sebab nk attend program? Ko GILE?
2. Boleh jamin success ke benda tuh?
3. Boleh hilang ketagihan?
4. Ko komen lebih2 ni ko hisap rokok ke tak?

Last date aku hisap rokok Dunhill Menthol LIght adalah pada 21hb September 2012. Sampai sekarang aku tak sentuh lagi rokok selepas aku hisap E-Cig. Ko adoo?
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Kerajaan provides platform dan bantuan untuk berhenti merokok. Kira ok le sebab derang sudi nak tolong buang habit yang x elok tuh. Sama ada berjaya atau x, in the end bergantung kat diri sendiri jugak. Macam ko yang dah x merokok sejak september 2012, tahniah aku nak ucapkan. Mesti dah rasa banyak faedah dia kan wink.gif
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nicotine not bad for you? > TS cant tell difference between caffeine and nicotine > TS is stupid > TS argument is invalid

mentang2 pilihanraya dah dekat. memfitnah je la keje kau
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QUOTE(hazman1677 @ Jan 22 2013, 11:17 AM)
Kerajaan provides platform dan bantuan untuk berhenti merokok. Kira ok le sebab derang sudi nak tolong buang habit yang x elok tuh. Sama ada berjaya atau x, in the end bergantung kat diri sendiri jugak. Macam ko yang dah x merokok sejak september 2012, tahniah aku nak ucapkan. Mesti dah rasa banyak faedah dia kan wink.gif
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Ko merokok bro?
Sembang macam senang je nak berhenti merokok.

QUOTE(ashcrimson @ Jan 22 2013, 11:18 AM)
nicotine not bad for you? > TS cant tell difference between caffeine and nicotine > TS is stupid > TS argument is invalid

mentang2 pilihanraya dah dekat. memfitnah je la keje kau
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I'd suggest you not to eat this too, coz it contained Nicotine.

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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Jan 22 2013, 10:06 AM)
Tengah cari brand Itaste VV ... yang ada LED indicator tu.
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iTaste vv rm130
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Jan 21 2013, 04:12 PM)
Fact = Nicotine = Cancer !!
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tomato also have nicotine bang
so tomato can give u a cancer? HAHAHA
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QUOTE(akifariqarisya @ Jan 22 2013, 11:25 AM)
iTaste vv rm130
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i c... thats market price. I could get @ RM90 or lower depending on amount of stock thumbup.gif

k la.. lazy post d. byez-
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Sos....

Was this posted earlier before?
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how about this one?


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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jan 22 2013, 12:30 PM)
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Sos....

Was this posted earlier before?
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useless article actually. what kinds of diseases? there's none listed by them until now laugh.gif

there MAY be sellers selling questionable liquids but IMO ppl can taste the difference straight after one puff.
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jan 22 2013, 12:41 PM)
useless article actually. what kinds of diseases? there's none listed by them until now laugh.gif

there MAY be sellers selling questionable liquids but IMO ppl can taste the difference straight after one puff.
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Woi bro you haven'r answered my question :*(
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jan 22 2013, 12:42 PM)
Woi bro you haven'r answered my question :*(
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i don't think so. but then again i haven't been following this thread page by page. haha
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I kat klinic 1malaysia jajan jujur3. Waiting for stop smoking program ni.takut sikit
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e-siggie bukan utk berenti rokok la... organisasi kesihatan mana kt dunia ni yg endorse e-siggie

good marketing is good marketing
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QUOTE(ashcrimson @ Jan 22 2013, 02:26 PM)
e-siggie bukan utk berenti rokok la... organisasi kesihatan mana kt dunia ni yg endorse e-siggie

good marketing is good marketing
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at least i stop buying Dunhill

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QUOTE(munyen @ Jan 22 2013, 04:12 PM)
at least i stop buying Dunhill
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dont waste ur time bro. some non smokers are too damn arrogant with the fact that they dont smoke. i dont even know how does the government making a fuss about e cig is affecting them in any way at all for them to be barking here. lol
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bodoh ingat PR naik nanti dia tak tax kebenda vapor ni
bodoh, bodoh everywhere
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Nevermind, relax, sooner it will become legal;

http://www.bat.com/group/sites/UK__3MNFEN....ndocument&SKN=1

That time, this stupid minister will dunno come with what excuse, it's all about business
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i'm not a smoker but all my kelik smokes.. before this i can't stand with them smoking but right as they are using e-cigarette, i can laugh and talk with them while they smoke.. thanks e-cigarette smile.gif
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my fren liquid vapor stock worth of rm 50k stuck at kastam. poor him lol
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By the way, wassup with the bashing the smoker neway ?
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Bodoh perokok babi baik pi mampus je.
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It's not healthy but at least it's not as hazardous like cigarette

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nicotine is a stimulant drug with its effect is to increase alertness. come with slight addiction. but fcuk it, what drug doesnt? at least e cig dun have other additive like conventional cigg. gomen. gomen.
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i still rmmber back then when shisha first came to Malaysia, all these smokers are preaching that shisha is healthier than conventional cigs. now shisha is out of trend, they're moving to e-cig.

2-3 years to come, they'll leave e-cig and back to real cig again. hipsters!
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Wow got free 105pc of nicotine gum for 1 week. At goverment klinic. Not bad.hope can stop smoking.
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Jan 22 2013, 10:06 AM)
Tengah cari brand Itaste VV ... yang ada LED indicator tu.
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okay2. nanti dah ada price list dengan item list pm aku. nak tgk skit.
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Jan 22 2013, 05:45 PM)
Bodoh perokok babi baik pi mampus je.
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The bodo 1 is actually those who smoke
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cuba smokers try flashbak memory

atas sebab alasan apa aku mula merokok dulu

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non smokers think they are perfect.. i no smoke but i also no smug

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