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wadefak
post Jan 21 2013, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(janszmatt @ Jan 21 2013, 08:24 AM)
There is no substantial evidence that e-cigarette is healthy
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so u wanna say smokers are better off smoking the normal cigarette?

QUOTE(yuusuke-kun @ Jan 21 2013, 08:31 AM)
this will not happen if the e-cigarette imposed with cukai

no cukai = extremely hazardous

impose cukai like normal cigarette out there = boleh hisap suka hati kau
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seriously this issue makes normal cigarette look angelic due all of the stupid remarks about e cig. ppl have been vaping all over the world for years. give us solid proof, evidence, not stupid statements.
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Jan 21 2013, 08:34 AM)
habis tu yang racun2 dalam rokok biasa tu selamat la ye?
ada vitamin C ka?  whistling.gif
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ask them straight to the face, if i blow u with normal cig smoke and e cig smoke, which 1 u prefer? idiots. zzz
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(SerbaSerbi @ Jan 21 2013, 08:36 AM)
QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jan 21 2013, 08:39 AM)
that is dangerous part .... u dunno what they mix with
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_ci...Health_concerns

now read up, peasants.
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post Jan 21 2013, 10:08 AM

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the question is, cigarette has been here for such a long time compare to e cigs, why all the sudden fuss?
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post Jan 21 2013, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 10:33 AM)
Ade, sebelum Form 2.
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post Jan 21 2013, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 10:36 AM)
1.tgk kompeni , ade yg supportive, takde annual leave ke?
2.kalau takde hati nak berhenti mmg tak payah pergi
3.kalau takde hati nak berhenti mmg tak payah pergi
4.hisap

tak tahan bebudak opis ni hisap e-cig nak poyo2 mcm superior pulak masa isap tu. masa tarik tu ade buat muka mcm nak mintak penumbuk  shakehead.gif
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tu masalah budak opis ko bro. g la tumbuk diorang.
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post Jan 21 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 10:40 AM)
1. kalau kata program takde faedah so takleh nak tolong la
2. nicotin patch tak jalan sebab mulut nak hisap2 so pikir sendiri la

tak butthurt pun tapi kalau dah berlagak nak isap dalam opis sebab (e-cig ni bukan rokok) apecer

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kirenye ko nak ban sebab budak2 opis ko isap dalam opis? weldan.
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post Jan 21 2013, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(lauyah @ Jan 21 2013, 10:45 AM)
Dude, if you really want to quit, you will find way. Dont give excuses! Just make you looked lame.

BTW, this e-cig has been banned in many country, like OZ, NZ and Canada. The chemical used posed to be more harmful than regular cigarette, but of coz those cigarette sold in those country has lower tar and nicotine.

I am a smoker and I dont support BN at all. Im just annoyed at those that barking at the wrong tree and are too lazy to google on the matter. Do not discredit nor assume anything.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_ci...Health_concerns

here u go smile.gif
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post Jan 21 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(jack~daniel @ Jan 21 2013, 10:50 AM)
Health concerns

Proponents of electronic cigarettes often claim that electronic cigarettes deliver the experience of smoking while eliminating the smell and health risks associated with tobacco smoke.[18][19] The base liquids - which include propylene glycol (PG), vegetable glycerin (VG), and sometimes polyethylene glycol 400 (PEG400) - have been widely used as a food additive, as a base solution for personal care products such as toothpaste, and in medical devices such as asthma inhalers. However, the health effects of inhaling nicotine vapor into lungs are a subject of uncertainty. The health effects of exhaled nicotine and other substances present in the vapor are also uncertain but seem likely to be far less harmful than tobacco smoke.
The fact that e-cigarettes may resemble real tobacco cigarettes has been noted by both supporters and detractors. While e-cigarettes may give nicotine addicts more or less the same amount of nicotine as a conventional cigarette, they do not produce the same toxic smoke that can cause lung disease and cancer when inhaled over time. Since there are no products of combustion to be inhaled, no tobacco toxins are inhaled besides nicotine.[20]
[edit]World Health Organization
The World Health Organization stated in September 2008 that no rigorous, peer-reviewed studies have been conducted showing that the electronic cigarette is a safe and effective nicotine replacement therapy. WHO does not discount the possibility that the electronic cigarette could be useful as a smoking cessation aid, but insisted that claims that electronic cigarettes can help smokers quit need to be backed up by clinical studies and toxicity analyses and operate within the proper regulatory framework.

American Association of Public Health Physicians
As of April 2010, The American Association of Public Health Physicians (AAPHP) supports electronic cigarettes sales to adults "because the possibility exists to save the lives of four million of the eight million current adult American smokers who will otherwise die of a tobacco-related illness over the next twenty years." However, the AAPHP is against sales to minors.[31] The AAPHP recommends that the FDA reclassify the electronic cigarette as a tobacco product (as opposed to a drug/device combination).[32][33]

Boston University School of Public Health study
A study by researchers at the Boston University School of Public Health in 2010 concluded that electronic cigarettes were safer than real cigarettes and may aid in breaking the habit of smoking. Researchers said that while further studies on electronic cigarettes were needed, "few, if any, chemicals at levels detected in electronic cigarettes raise serious health concerns." Electronic cigarettes were found to be "much safer" than traditional tobacco ones, and had a level of toxicity similar to existing nicotine replacements.
According to this report, the level of carcinogens in electronic cigarettes is up to 1,000 times lower than regular cigarettes, and early evidence shows that electronic cigarettes may help people to stop smoking by simulating a tobacco cigarette.
Cigarette and liquor - two of the main income to Goeverment, if they want to ban Cigarette and liquor, they will do like wht they did to drugs...cigarette/ liquor manufacturer doesnt make much profit compare to tax to BN Gov
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post Jan 21 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Jan 21 2013, 11:12 AM)
hhaha..
cap ayam mende. DIY liquid bersepah. Liquid China yg popular first2, Hangsen ngan Dekang. Masa awal2 dlu sedap la. Lama2 dah jumpa liquid USA lagi sedap USA. LOL!

Benda ni takde dah istilah cap ayam etc bro. Sebab substance liquid ni, ko campor bende alah lain, memang xkan jadi sedap etc. Kalau xsedap, jangan kata nak habiskan, baru sekali dua puff, dah campak tepi dah.
Dan satu lagi, masok substance2 macam ko cakap, "RACUN", tak keluar asap nanti brooo..
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pastu ade ati nak ngata orang lain ignorant. kalau tak isap, dok diam je la. nak bising lebih lak laugh.gif

QUOTE(redruby @ Jan 21 2013, 11:13 AM)
vaping sambil tengok angpa gadooh
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post Jan 21 2013, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(izaydi @ Jan 21 2013, 11:17 AM)
takpa.teruskan believe tu.kalau ko background chemistry maybe ko faham kot.have a nice day ahead hisap e.cig..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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boleh share info chemistry yg ko ade pasal e-cig? please? blush.gif
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post Jan 21 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 21 2013, 03:23 PM)
slow2 bro..bukan hari ni terus ban..kompem la esok guling..buat la rokok ni barang terkawal ke, ketatkan penguatkuasaan ke.. sorang bleh skotak je ke sehari..then next year impose lagi undang2 ketat..ni naikkan cukai orang pun tau kerajaan saje nak buat $$
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pergh cakap bukan main senang macam karangan sekolah. sorang sekotak je sehari? sape nak enforce? sape nak monitor? acik hang?
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post Jan 21 2013, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 21 2013, 04:03 PM)
boleh enforce, rokok jual dekat balai polis, nak beli kena tunjuk ic, check system dah beli ke belum hari ni.

achik dia kalau polis memang boleh la monitor.
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later crime rate naik lagi 1 hal whistling.gif
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post Jan 22 2013, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jan 22 2013, 12:30 PM)
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Sos....

Was this posted earlier before?
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useless article actually. what kinds of diseases? there's none listed by them until now laugh.gif

there MAY be sellers selling questionable liquids but IMO ppl can taste the difference straight after one puff.
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post Jan 22 2013, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jan 22 2013, 12:42 PM)
Woi bro you haven'r answered my question :*(
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i don't think so. but then again i haven't been following this thread page by page. haha
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post Jan 22 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(munyen @ Jan 22 2013, 04:12 PM)
at least i stop buying Dunhill
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dont waste ur time bro. some non smokers are too damn arrogant with the fact that they dont smoke. i dont even know how does the government making a fuss about e cig is affecting them in any way at all for them to be barking here. lol

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