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 Demon Hunter V3, Patch 1.07 - PVP OWNAGE!

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Deckard Cain
post Jan 30 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 11:57 AM)
i think i want sell my manti and get those w/o LS...
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Yeah. Even with windforce, with 200+ dps, I can tell you LS not enough against RD. Somemore I have 500+ resist+ 4900 armor.. still die. I think for DH need at least 5-6% LS for it to work or 3% + 700-900 LoH for it to work but since got gloom, no need all those. Just Gloom and shoot away. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 30 2013, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 30 2013, 12:03 PM)
Yeah. Even with windforce, with 200+ dps, I can tell you LS not enough against RD. Somemore I have 500+ resist+ 4900 armor.. still die. I think for DH need at least 5-6% LS for it to work or 3% + 700-900 LoH for it to work but since got gloom, no need all those. Just Gloom and shoot away.  biggrin.gif
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but still cant decide which type to buy...
i did a calculation with 100m budget Manti (1 OS vs 2 OS)... currently at AH..
if 1 OS, can get like 13xx dps, 18x Dex, 85+ CD
if 2 OS, can get like 11xx dps, 17x Dex, 85+ CD

DPS not much different for my current gears setup (6k-7k dps increase)... maybe my CC too low so 2 OS manti give me less benefit.. or maybe forget about manti upgrade and buy a TWH... can get 30-40m TWH and increase like 4k dps with increase my AS at the same time..

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post Jan 30 2013, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 12:24 PM)
but still cant decide which type to buy...
i did a calculation with 100m budget Manti (1 OS vs 2 OS)... currently at AH..
if 1 OS, can get like 13xx dps, 18x Dex, 85+ CD
if 2 OS, can get like 11xx dps, 17x Dex, 85+ CD

DPS not much different for my current gears setup (6k-7k dps increase)... maybe my CC too low so 2 OS manti give me less benefit.. or maybe forget about manti upgrade and buy a TWH... can get 30-40m TWH and increase like 4k dps with increase my AS at the same time..
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I was using 1335.5 dps single socket which I got for about 50M or so If i can recall and it was equivalent to 12xx dps 2 socket ones. But if you particularly like big crits, of course 2 sockets which brings me to another issue, having big crits but low cc also pointless.. you need to have substantial cc for it to work. One more thing is, pumping up IAS for manticore. If you have 2 sockets, then rings can skip CD but instead, look for ones with CC and IAS. TWH def a must get for manti users for IAS and if you have enough resist, can get lacuni's too which is a big dps booster. I for one prefer to stay alive so I opt for normal bracers for eHP increase. 100M is too much for 1 socket ones. At 13xx, i'll pay 80M max depending on the DPS and stats.
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post Jan 30 2013, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 30 2013, 12:36 PM)
I was using 1335.5 dps single socket which I got for about 50M or so If i can recall and it was equivalent to 12xx dps 2 socket ones. But if you particularly like big crits, of course 2 sockets which brings me to another issue, having big crits but low cc also pointless.. you need to have substantial cc for it to work. One more thing is, pumping up IAS for manticore. If you have 2 sockets, then rings can skip CD but instead, look for ones with CC and IAS. TWH def a must get for manti users for IAS and if you have enough resist, can get lacuni's too which is a big dps booster. I for one prefer to stay alive so I opt for normal bracers for eHP increase. 100M is too much for 1 socket ones. At 13xx, i'll pay 80M max depending on the DPS and stats.
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yeah...can get less than 100m for sure...if i spend more time often in AH..spotted them several times but still hold my hand..
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post Jan 30 2013, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 12:44 PM)
yeah...can get less than 100m for sure...if i spend more time often in AH..spotted them several times but still hold my hand..
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let me check.. i might have spare 11xx 2 socket ones.. can pinjam you. Not sure if i already brim it tongue.gif
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post Jan 30 2013, 12:57 PM

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brimstone 11xx dps 2 os? rclxub.gif really... non dex roll?
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 12:57 PM)
brimstone 11xx dps 2 os?  rclxub.gif really... non dex roll?
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Should be.. I'm not sure.. I finish my run, i check my stash and see
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:03 PM

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bcos 11xx 2 os 150+ dex still worth 40m+ in AH now..
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:04 PM

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sabenarian

Your current manticore is fine. Don't change it first. Use your gold on other parts first.
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:05 PM

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I stared off with a worst 1OS manti than you. Upgrade other parts as much as you can before going into weapon upgrade.
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 30 2013, 01:05 PM)
I stared off with a worst 1OS manti than you. Upgrade other parts as much as you can before going into weapon upgrade.
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yes.. im waiting for 1.07... want see if can get good crafted amulet (major dps boost for me).. all my DH gears are cheap one (unless for Manti) also using existing gear for testing. now starting to get back my DH play style, thats why considering to get more serious in DH gearing..

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post Jan 30 2013, 03:15 PM

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Sorry, checked my stash.. 2 socket one is 1009 dps. lul and 1 socket one is 1257 but with intel.. If got then i pinjam you, no need to spend money until you get a good upgrade. Think urs for now ok

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actually how much dps is needed as entry level DH?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yuhhaur...8/hero/14736462 my DH, items are collected over time but hardly play him out.

Is my armor too high?
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whoa just realize that my nat sight almost roll max armor!
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post Jan 30 2013, 03:46 PM

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Wow, why suddenly everyone wanna play DH???
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 30 2013, 03:46 PM)
Wow, why suddenly everyone wanna play DH???
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because you wanna leave whistling.gif we thought of wanna filled up the space tongue.gif
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post Jan 30 2013, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 30 2013, 03:15 PM)
Sorry, checked my stash.. 2 socket one is 1009 dps. lul and 1 socket one is 1257 but with intel..  If got then i pinjam you, no need to spend money until you get a good upgrade. Think urs for now ok
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ok thanks.. rclxms.gif
QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 30 2013, 03:46 PM)
Wow, why suddenly everyone wanna play DH???
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FYI, my male DH is my 2nd hero reached 60...play DH so much that time... I missed vault... biggrin.gif and kitting.. biggrin.gif ..
btw DH cant play on lazy mode (or i don know how).. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 30 2013, 03:44 PM)
actually how much dps is needed as entry level DH?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yuhhaur...8/hero/14736462 my DH, items are collected over time but hardly play him out.

Is my armor too high?
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no MS at all? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 03:58 PM)
no MS at all?  hmm.gif
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lazy to swap in the inna pant & nat ring/boot ma...
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 30 2013, 04:01 PM)
lazy to swap in the inna pant & nat ring/boot ma...
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ic biggrin.gif ... ur DH ok i think for MP0/public game..but if u not carefull, RD will kill u easily bcos ur HP too low..

but i saw last time a DH, HP below than 30k...survive very well in public game... maybe his dps is low so RD not return dmg too much..

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