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 Is Utar degree better than ktar overseas degree?, Some said utar degree is not standard

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TSteochevon
post Mar 24 2006, 11:57 AM, updated 20y ago

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Hello.. I really would like somebody who ever heard or think abt tis and discuss wif me..
TSteochevon
post Mar 24 2006, 04:20 PM

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I'm now really worried that if I even cant get any good job after I graduate from either UTAR or KTAR then. But I have no choice, I must choose either one of them. I just wanna know which one is better than the other. I got finance problem. If I'm going UTAR, it doesn't mean it'd make my life simpler since there's a new rule stated that whoever got PTPTN loan during the years of diploma must clear the payment first before going to apply PTPTN loan in UTAR then. Maybe people will say, just get loan from other association or foundation that recommended by UTAR, but but but, the thing is, the loan provided by others not enough for me to spend on both tuition fees and living expenses. Only PTPTN provides enough loan. How am I going to payback the loan that I applied before in order to apply in further then? I think perhaps some needy students' hope(Going to UTAR)will be ruined because of this new rule.
In case like that, there's no different between gettng into UTAR or KTAR because as i stated justnow, it's not easy to get PTPTN loan anymore(Except those who still can afford to payback the loan before). The stereotype could be changed that UTAR is not a choice for further studies for those needy students anymore. Perhaps I'm not right at all, but I just stand in the view of unlucky case.

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post Mar 24 2006, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Sim (2) @ Mar 24 2006, 02:13 PM)
because they doesn't provide twining program?
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It's because some said that UTAR is easier to graduate since there's 60% coursework marks will be given while KTAR advance diploma just as the same with diploma level, 20-30% only coursework marks. I also got heard before that most of the students going over UTAR all because of it's easier to graduate and got finance loan provided. Is that really true? Many people wonder all courses provided by UTAR is under approval of LAN or not. What's actually LAN? And National Accreditation Board? Are both the same? Why I heard people said that of course all courses provided in colleges and universities in our country is under approval of LAN, just have to see whether it got accreditate from societies or companies or not. ?? What's this mean?? Erm.. I heard a lot these kind of things. Hopefully there got someone that can really gimme some precious opinions and guidance.
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post Mar 24 2006, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Mar 24 2006, 02:21 PM)
Tarcian here. IMO, UTAR degree is cheaper & u can financed by lower interest rate loan. Overseas top up programme (in UK) normally cost about RM 35,000. The interest rate of that loan is about 9 %.

About which degree is better?? Its the same since neither UTAR nor Overseas University tht link with TARC is FAMOUS !! Try to obtain a first class  degree to differentiate u from the 2nd or 3rd class holder.  blush.gif
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OK.. If in this case, what if I just take the BS Degree Program instead of going for Top-Up programme in UK? So that's not expensive right? I knew that going for Top-Up programme isn't same with taking BS Degree Program since Top-Up Programme can get Honours Degree. Anyway, I think just taking BS Degree Program also isn't too bad, am I right?
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post Mar 24 2006, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(xeeyau @ Mar 24 2006, 04:39 PM)
tarc is better since the fee is less than utar....about the oversea study, if i am not mistaken, u can get your campbell degree however u choose not to go oversea.

May be tis not applicable anymore..correct me if wrong....but now advance dip in tarc hav the cisco and crystal report workshop..it is hot (assume u are IT student)
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Ok, Thanks! I'm studying in ISE. My friends asked that how to get the chance to go for industrial training in advance diploma, huh? Is there any rules? Based on what? I asked KTAR already the BS Degree Programme still available.

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post Mar 24 2006, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(xeeyau @ Mar 24 2006, 04:41 PM)
JOB is everywhere....now my company having three programmers including me whom are all come from TARC
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Did you go for industrial training during Advance diploma? u're graduate from advance diploma right? How do u get the job? So luckily one.. People said that advance diploma in KTAR hard to study (if take BS Degree Program) but it's worth compare to UTAR degree.. Do u agree that?
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post Mar 24 2006, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Mar 24 2006, 05:02 PM)
Just because TARC is cheap DOES NOT MEAN no quality.

There are (not foundation year) students from a "prestigious"/"famous" govt operated local U still asking "What is the difference between mild steel and cast iron" on a factory visit!  sweat.gif  shakehead.gif  doh.gif

So that's why my dad's previous company preferred to hire TARC graduates.  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif Gets the job done, no one complaints.  rclxms.gif
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Huh? sorry le.. I'm not quite understand ur meaning.. U said KTAR is cheap?
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post Mar 25 2006, 07:44 AM

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The topic I created is to discuss about the UTAR and KTAR only. Not included overseas world ranking universities. Of course overseas universities better than ours. But I have no choice, I must choose one of this. I don't have much time to apply for other universities.
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post Mar 25 2006, 10:14 PM

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So.. to put it in a nutshell, if a person wish to get into master level, he must go to take top-up programme at ktar or go to utar in order to get honours degree lo; else if a person just wanna "cincai"ly graduate without thinking going further to take master, he takes an advance diploma cert or BS degree programme during ktar is already enough lo?
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post Apr 6 2006, 11:07 AM

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Im not interested in UTAR.. I hope if anyone know where got the study loan provided please let me know.. I hope I can get into KTAR in this May
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post Apr 6 2006, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(Yau_1234 @ Apr 6 2006, 12:51 PM)
wat loan u wam to ??? wat u studyiny now ??? if at KTAR diploma lvl u can get PTPTN which is very easy to get and if in advance u can apply for TARC loan ...
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I want go KTAR. I want apply loan for my living expenses which might need 15k

 

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