I am building wall and my house is 20 feet wide and around 20 feet length for the porch area. Is 14 feet too little or too much to let in/out 2 cars freely?
If possible I want the most optimum length so that the auto gate motor won't wear off so soon due to the weight and length of the gate.

14' quite difficult lar, min 16'......if folding gate better go for 17' as the motor will take about 9" each side

ok, 16' wide and 20" feet length should be able to let 2 car in right?
I intend to use the swing one, more durable.

Mine 15.5ft with folding gate. A bit tough to go in. Luckily my length is long, as long as the car park inside a bit then no prob to park side by side. 17ft will be ideal

Mine 13 1/2 wide. No problem except one car further from the gate has to park slanted a bit. If another 1/2 foot (ie 14 feet) just perfect otherwise 14 1/2 should be ok unless you want to reserve park.

14 feet for main gate with swing gate. 2 feet pillar and balance 3 feet for another small gate for people going in and out without using the main gate that will look better. If you use up all the 20 feet (19 feet actually) it dont look nice. Go round and see others then you know.

some say 14ft, some say 16ft, so can I conclude that 15 feet is good enough?

Still depends on what car u use...
Mine is 16ft with folding gate. I only open one side to drove in. And i have 3ft small gate just to have people get in and out... By total i have 19ft open.. So i can park my car without "park senget2"..
Btw, i only use spectra and my wife kelisa

Depend your cars. If both alphard minimal you need 7.5ft width cleaned one side.

better to have to more than 15 feets....

Of course the bigger the easier. My house 22 feet and I have 13 1/2 feet gate, one other car park senget a bit. I think 14 1/2 will have no problem parking both cars straight with little bit of steering. If you want to go straight in then you need to open up all your 20 feet wide house as gate.

The bigger the gate the heavy it is and heavy duty auto gate needed.

I planned to use DCmoto905, good enough for 15ft gate?

Depend on the weight la bro. Stainles steel is heavy but rod iron is solid heavier but slim. Another aspect is the bearing, get stainless steel ones. Again you got to make sure it is gravity level/balance which depend on kong fu (skill) of installer. If out of balance more unnecessary force is needed and stress on bearing and soon bearing KO and follows by the auto gate arm/motor. These are the thing to look at not just how strong or powerful the arm. That also tell you why some got no problem yrs after yrs and some cant last a year. It is not jsut rain water get into motor

Remember for a swing gate , the bigger the gate the more front space needed to be allocated for the gate outward swing.
Make sure this is taken in to account.

Can 2 Myvis fit nicely through the 14 feet gate?

It also depend how wide the gate can swing. If only 90 degree, can but some difficulties. If both swing 110 degree no problem. This is called maneuverability. Also if the first car simply park over its "lot" space then the 2nd get difficult. That is the first car has to park properly and the 2nd can park simply.

Any one fitted aluminium gate here ?
I was wondering if aluminium gate is lighter, less maintenance and long lasting ?

For a very wide gate, recommended to go for folding gate. Less of a hassle especially if you park outside and your gate swings out.

For 14ft gate width, if your driveway has a minimum 20ft it could be a problem depending on the type of car you drive. My gate is 16ft wide and my driveway is exactly 20ft deep but it still feels a lil tight when parking side by side as there isn't much space to maneuver. The driveway width for my house is only 18ft wide.

Go for at least a 16ft gate and maintain your driveway depth at about 23-25ft and it should not be a problem.

This post has been edited by adrianjc: Jan 23 2013, 07:53 AM

If I get a 15-16ft gate, does it consider too wide for a swing type? Because using folding type it would then take up around 0.5-1ft for the folded gate while at rest and folding are prompt to jam versus swing type, that's why I prefer swing, because even if I park in front of the gate, I can still swing the other half of the gate and only allow a small opening for me to walk in, while being mindful that the swing gate won't hit my car.

This post has been edited by gedebe: Jan 23 2013, 11:17 AM

With a shallow driveway like yours (20ft), it is advisable to have a wider gate.
The side is only be sufficient for the gate pillars (18" each). and the walls.

That mean one side you need minimal 8ft clearance. Your front have this much of clearance than ok.

So the question will still be for 16ft autogate can I still use the swing type? I want to use the DCmoto905, can it coupe?

If you refer to "freely" moving in/out, the answer is 16'

Depend your gate design, material use (steel, alloy? aluminium?) All thiese attribute will give difference weight. And look at the motor spec.

I would not recommend not stress the motor above the 90% weight written in the specification.

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It depend on what car you drive, for 18 feet, it can park 2 Camry comfortably, for 16 feet, it only can park 2 Altis or similiar size car comfortably, pls remember that for folding gate , each side will take at least one feet for fold allowance.

Thanks. You look me to up already. Just sharing my thought.

I'm no expert but I was told that anything more than 14 feet ( 7 + 7) is not advisable for swing gate. Also depends on the gate material wrought metal / aluminum. Mine's powder coated aluminum and 13 feet wide. I use a simple and fuss free CEI motor because I dislike motors above ground installation.

Anyway depending on the length of the driveway, using narrower gate will require you to negotiate a little when you enter the gate and try to park 2 C or D segment type cars side by side. I find with a 14 feet wide swing gate, each car is able to go in and park at the designated side by side space in the garage comfortably.

what is the depth of your car park, mine is actually 25ft and wide is 20ft. Hopefully if I use a 14ft swing type gate, I could get in/out easily with 2 cars.

If you have open space, just put few stick, and draw a big box, that way you know what is best gate size.

Too big of a gate, sometime the house look odd. Especially very fancy gate. When i did my house, i was thinking 15', but after much consideration, i made it smaller about 13.5' and parking I have to reverse few or some extra turning. It won't kill me.

You have to consider where the incoming water meter too, and also where the main pipe, if driveway too big does it block the "longkang", water pipe.

Are you referring to the size of the car park itself? What is the size of the house compound? Yes, you need to consider what weikee mentioned about blocking water meter and in some cases the electric meter if it's outside at the main pillar. Especially that you mentioned that your car park is 20 feet wide. weikee also mentioned about the esthetics of the house... Big gate with small front does look weird in terms of proportion. So you need to consider that.

Ok so for my entire front compound, which is the 20ft wide and 25ft depth (this is the max, in actual, minus a few inches). What is the best size for my auto gate if I still insist on getting the swing type. This is taking into consideration on the water meter and also to leave 3 ft to build a mailbox on top of a standard size dustbin room.

I won't be able comment for your house. Need to see the external, your house design and neighborhood. I think you need minimal 14' also depend the car size you drive. 25' depth should be good

You would be able to use swing but just note that your gate would jut out to the road at 7.5-8ft.

Also in order for the swing arm to be able to take the load you would be looking at using the more expensive but lighter aluminum gates. Steel gates would be too heavy in my opinion and put too much stress on the motor arms to open & close gate.

let me just ask what is the maximum size for swing type gate? From there I will adjust accordingly.

This post has been edited by gedebe: Jan 26 2013, 03:26 PM

If you have space and high power motor even 10' per side is ok. All depend how big the open area you have.

One more thing you might need to consider.
Is there any gate size limit for your neighbourhood stated by the local council?

Let me call up Dcmoto dealer to confirm how much weight and length they can take for a swing gate.

Through experience 14 feet swing gate is good enough. 14 half if you like. Any thing bigger than that dont look good for 20 feet wide house. Gate proportionality too big make your house appear to be small, not grant. Try to balance between practicality vs looks. Also if your front driveway and the outside road is not level you may have little problem positioning your cars. Arm gate will take some space vs the traditional ones which install on the ground. You can forget about folding gate. If you really want an easy parking you can opt for sliding type. You can then take the whole 20 feet opening on either side at a time. Not necessary to have a level gate, you can make it a "m".

Any recommendation for the motor of the autogate, I only know dcmoto.

you need to look at the road is wide enough when your big gate is swing open for you to enter the house with ease...my area a lot of people which i dont quite understand why they park outside the house when they have space in side the house. Their parking causes difficulty to drive my car into the house if I go for swing type. Therefore i opt for folding...

And with folding type when i have visitor that park in front of my gate, I can still open the gate.

16feet medium car (city, civic) can squeeze in but need to be careful. Bigger car like Camry, Accord are no way. probably need another 1 feet each side.

Just my experience.

This post has been edited by mywii: Jan 28 2013, 09:49 AM

When the swing gate swing to max, is it 90 degree or more?

slightly more than 90degree

Just call up DCmoto and they claim their latest model 925 can only support up to 14', so I guess I'll have to settle for this and manoeuvre my car to get in.

I'm looking for gate which does not requires painting for the long run. any recommendation what type of gate i should look for? I'm not interested with the stainless S gate though.

cheers

Stainless still is The best for your option. Alternative can try hot dip galvaniz without paint

Stainless steel looks too shiny, rather unhomely.
Nowadays, there is baked enamel paint finish (done in factory) which is more lasting than normal paint, looks classy and offers choice of colours.

I'd been told by dcmoto that the swing type has some disadv, there won't be any stopper for the gate when closing, the stopper is at the motor itself, and therefore swing gate might not close perfectly.
He ask me to use the folding instead. But I don't think I can afford to have this since both folded gate will need another 1 ft each.

For same material and same length, does the swing and folding gate will be same price? Or which type will cost higher?

sometime we save but end up dont like it or not suitable then what's the point....

I was using a swing gate before and when my gate guy show me the new ones I asked what happen to the center stopper and lock. you can ask them to add the stopper lock in the center. Your swing door will be stopped at the stopper in the center and a metal rod will drop down and lock. new model dont use this but they do add if you want. However, I finally decided to use folding coz I did my new gate wider and hence swing gate will open quite out which is inconvenient to turn into my porch and cant park in front of my house.

Hmm, if I use the folding type, my total length of my gate will be 16ft and will be minus out 2ft when folded. Now I only left with 4 more feet to do 2 pillar as my total house width is only 20ft and 1 of the pillar must be housing the mailbox and dustbin, dustbin housing need like 3 feet.

yup you do have an issue with folding gate...unless you dont mind the pilar not the same size at each side of the gate.

I dont put dustbin outside coz there are dogs. And in my area, the collector comes quite punctual on alternate days. So we just put out the rubbish in the morning. My contractor before did advice to "plant" a dustbin metal stand and put the bin on top where dogs cant topple or reach the top. You may want to consider that.

OK, good suggestion, I think I will have to go for this if I want a bigger folding gate opening.

I end up deciding to put my dustbin outside and install folding gate with 16" wide. Should be ok right for a compound of 20'x25'?

whatever it is please check with your contractor and gate guy....dont forget your letter box and also in case you want 3phase power box (if your house is not on 3 phase now)..

Dcmoto seller claim no problem to pull even a 20' swing gate!

It actually depend the gate weight but dont over trust the seller as they just want to do the business. Will they give you warranty and good after sales service when there is issue? Better to be safe than sorry.

As stevie8 mentioned, why not consider sliding type? It would eliminate the need to consider the swing area and whatnot?

You can also refer to your neighbours that has similar dimension.

So what you ended installing bro?

I've settled for 16', but not is still undecided on the gap of the gate plank

Oh, so which motor u using?

For your information.

I've installed a folding gate length 23.6' feet with DCMoto 1st gen GFM 905 without breaking a sweat. That was back in 2007.

In 2008, I've installed GFM 905 2nd gen on a 27' length 4' high folding gate. Is been use on government building as a entry gate barrier. That means daily opening closing comes to 30 to 50 times daily.

In August 2012, I've installed first batch GFM 925W on a 23' feet length 8' high folding gate. Fast and steady. Still working to date.

GFM 925W has been reworked planetary gearbox with monoblock system to improve rigidity.

Since u all talking bout autogate and gate opening length then u all sure re-do the front gate ( pillar and fence ). Do you apply for permit ( my case is MPSJ ) for all this works.

would also like to know if this requires approval from city council

My Hse Use 14feet gates no problem to park two cars in the porch and getting out. My hse only 18 feet wide hence Pillar 2feet each side

No need to get approval/permit from MPSJ..unless u change the structure of ur house.

Sorry for bumping this old thread. I'm also deciding if I shall hack away the existing 14' gate or not. If 14' is just nice for 2 medium cars, then I need to only spend about 2k for the motor by using back the same gate. But if wanna hack away, then need to spend 10 to 15k for the hacking + rebuilding (+rewiring) + new gate with motor.

Anyone else with 14' gate can share some comments?

Thanks

can

Thanks, but can both come in/out independently? Or 1 car must come out first before the next one?

Also did you maintain the 14' or using 16' now?

Thanks

16ft

You guys - What is the height of your autogate?

Is there a standard height, say 5feet or higher?

You guys - What is the height of your autogate?

Is there a standard height, say 5feet or higher?

U meant the gate height or height of the autogate installed?

Both would be great, 1 measurement from the floor to the top and the other just the height of the gate itself.
Thanks for the clarity

It can have arch shape and the height can be between 5~6'. Some can be square with 5' height. All just gate measurement. The gap at the bottom is narrow enough not to let adult cat to slip through.

Height of my gate is 6 feet swing type, autogate is installed just 2 inch above ground/floor tile.

More or less 5ft to 6ft , alrighty - thanks guys, appreciate the feedback

Hi.

I've been given this specs and quote. Is the price reasonable? Should i use Fagolli or DCmoto for the autogate system?

FAGOLLI FULLY ALUMINIUM GATES
1. To Supply and Install Fully Aluminium Folding/Swing gates:
Dimension Folding/ Swing Gates: 14’x5’5H
Price : RM7840
*Aluminium Plate (Lavender/Carnation) (Color: White/Grey)
*Aluminium Outer Frame (Color: Dark Grey)
*Powder Coating
*Trackless

2. Fagolli Folding/ Swing Moto Set:
*Housing X 2pcs
*Multi function remote control 3pcs
*Wireless Keypad with ANTI-SPY technology 1pc
*Transformer 1pc
*Control panel 1pc
*Siren 1pc
*Receiver 1pc
*Gear box 2pcs
*Gear moto 2pcs
*Drive bar 2pcs
*Panel box Size:30x30 1pc

3. FREE Back-up battery 1pc

Folding gate is more practical and can save more space but 14 feet is a tad too short for both cars to enter and exit at the same time.

Yes its folding gate. my hse is only 20ft width. minus 2 post gate (1 for post box and refuse chamber) and another plan for storage. Do u think i can have 16ft gate?

14 feet is the existing gate span? If it is, then a bit hard to get 16ft unless u can knock down both gate pillar and redo.

No. I'm redoing the whole porch with gate. Even building from scratch, based on the math, 14ft gate + 3ftx2 gate post = 20ft. So i guess 14 is the max size i can achieve, which is fine la.. just need to improve my parking skill. lol.

In that case should be no problem getting 16 feet provided your pillar is 1 sqf each with 2ft balance for refuse chamber. Post box is integrated into one your pillar no?

There is however a concern, the pillar with TNB meter will be a hassle to relocate though.

thank god i don't have tnb pillar infront of my hse.