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14 feet of auto gate, enough to let in/out 2 cars freely?
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TSgedebe
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Jan 20 2013, 12:29 AM, updated 7y ago
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I am building wall and my house is 20 feet wide and around 20 feet length for the porch area. Is 14 feet too little or too much to let in/out 2 cars freely? If possible I want the most optimum length so that the auto gate motor won't wear off so soon due to the weight and length of the gate.
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TSgedebe
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Jan 20 2013, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(skng03 @ Jan 20 2013, 01:25 AM) 14' quite difficult lar, min 16'......if folding gate better go for 17' as the motor will take about 9" each side ok, 16' wide and 20" feet length should be able to let 2 car in right? I intend to use the swing one, more durable.
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TSgedebe
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Jan 21 2013, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 20 2013, 02:22 PM) 14 feet for main gate with swing gate. 2 feet pillar and balance 3 feet for another small gate for people going in and out without using the main gate that will look better. If you use up all the 20 feet (19 feet actually) it dont look nice. Go round and see others then you know. some say 14ft, some say 16ft, so can I conclude that 15 feet is good enough?
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TSgedebe
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Jan 21 2013, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 21 2013, 02:32 PM) Of course the bigger the easier. My house 22 feet and I have 13 1/2 feet gate, one other car park senget a bit. I think 14 1/2 will have no problem parking both cars straight with little bit of steering. If you want to go straight in then you need to open up all your 20 feet wide house as gate. The bigger the gate the heavy it is and heavy duty auto gate needed. I planned to use DCmoto905, good enough for 15ft gate?
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TSgedebe
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Jan 23 2013, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(adrianjc @ Jan 23 2013, 07:47 AM) For a very wide gate, recommended to go for folding gate. Less of a hassle especially if you park outside and your gate swings out. For 14ft gate width, if your driveway has a minimum 20ft it could be a problem depending on the type of car you drive. My gate is 16ft wide and my driveway is exactly 20ft deep but it still feels a lil tight when parking side by side as there isn't much space to maneuver. The driveway width for my house is only 18ft wide. Go for at least a 16ft gate and maintain your driveway depth at about 23-25ft and it should not be a problem. If I get a 15-16ft gate, does it consider too wide for a swing type? Because using folding type it would then take up around 0.5-1ft for the folded gate while at rest and folding are prompt to jam versus swing type, that's why I prefer swing, because even if I park in front of the gate, I can still swing the other half of the gate and only allow a small opening for me to walk in, while being mindful that the swing gate won't hit my car. This post has been edited by gedebe: Jan 23 2013, 11:17 AM
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TSgedebe
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Jan 23 2013, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 23 2013, 01:36 PM) That mean one side you need minimal 8ft clearance. Your front have this much of clearance than ok. So the question will still be for 16ft autogate can I still use the swing type? I want to use the DCmoto905, can it coupe?
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TSgedebe
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Jan 23 2013, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 23 2013, 02:15 PM) Depend your gate design, material use (steel, alloy? aluminium?) All thiese attribute will give difference weight. And look at the motor spec. I would not recommend not stress the motor above the 90% weight written in the specification. Weikee, I have read your thread on your house reno and some of other posting, awesome, reno forum won't be the same without you!
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TSgedebe
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Jan 25 2013, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 25 2013, 10:21 AM) I'm no expert but I was told that anything more than 14 feet ( 7 + 7) is not advisable for swing gate. Also depends on the gate material wrought metal / aluminum. Mine's powder coated aluminum and 13 feet wide. I use a simple and fuss free CEI motor because I dislike motors above ground installation. Anyway depending on the length of the driveway, using narrower gate will require you to negotiate a little when you enter the gate and try to park 2 C or D segment type cars side by side. I find with a 14 feet wide swing gate, each car is able to go in and park at the designated side by side space in the garage comfortably. what is the depth of your car park, mine is actually 25ft and wide is 20ft. Hopefully if I use a 14ft swing type gate, I could get in/out easily with 2 cars.
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TSgedebe
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Jan 25 2013, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 25 2013, 03:40 PM) If you have open space, just put few stick, and draw a big box, that way you know what is best gate size. Too big of a gate, sometime the house look odd. Especially very fancy gate. When i did my house, i was thinking 15', but after much consideration, i made it smaller about 13.5' and parking I have to reverse few or some extra turning. It won't kill me. You have to consider where the incoming water meter too, and also where the main pipe, if driveway too big does it block the "longkang", water pipe. Ok so for my entire front compound, which is the 20ft wide and 25ft depth (this is the max, in actual, minus a few inches). What is the best size for my auto gate if I still insist on getting the swing type. This is taking into consideration on the water meter and also to leave 3 ft to build a mailbox on top of a standard size dustbin room.
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TSgedebe
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Jan 26 2013, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 25 2013, 09:07 PM) I won't be able comment for your house. Need to see the external, your house design and neighborhood. I think you need minimal 14' also depend the car size you drive. 25' depth should be good let me just ask what is the maximum size for swing type gate? From there I will adjust accordingly. This post has been edited by gedebe: Jan 26 2013, 03:26 PM
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TSgedebe
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Jan 27 2013, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 26 2013, 11:19 PM) If you have space and high power motor even 10' per side is ok. All depend how big the open area you have. Let me call up Dcmoto dealer to confirm how much weight and length they can take for a swing gate.
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TSgedebe
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Jan 28 2013, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 27 2013, 11:52 PM) Through experience 14 feet swing gate is good enough. 14 half if you like. Any thing bigger than that dont look good for 20 feet wide house. Gate proportionality too big make your house appear to be small, not grant. Try to balance between practicality vs looks. Also if your front driveway and the outside road is not level you may have little problem positioning your cars. Arm gate will take some space vs the traditional ones which install on the ground. You can forget about folding gate. If you really want an easy parking you can opt for sliding type. You can then take the whole 20 feet opening on either side at a time. Not necessary to have a level gate, you can make it a "m". Any recommendation for the motor of the autogate, I only know dcmoto.
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TSgedebe
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Jan 28 2013, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(mywii @ Jan 28 2013, 09:46 AM) you need to look at the road is wide enough when your big gate is swing open for you to enter the house with ease...my area a lot of people which i dont quite understand why they park outside the house when they have space in side the house. Their parking causes difficulty to drive my car into the house if I go for swing type. Therefore i opt for folding... And with folding type when i have visitor that park in front of my gate, I can still open the gate. 16feet medium car (city, civic) can squeeze in but need to be careful. Bigger car like Camry, Accord are no way. probably need another 1 feet each side. Just my experience. When the swing gate swing to max, is it 90 degree or more?
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TSgedebe
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Jan 30 2013, 11:26 AM
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Just call up DCmoto and they claim their latest model 925 can only support up to 14', so I guess I'll have to settle for this and manoeuvre my car to get in.
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TSgedebe
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Jan 31 2013, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(mywii @ Jan 28 2013, 09:58 PM) slightly more than 90degree I'd been told by dcmoto that the swing type has some disadv, there won't be any stopper for the gate when closing, the stopper is at the motor itself, and therefore swing gate might not close perfectly. He ask me to use the folding instead. But I don't think I can afford to have this since both folded gate will need another 1 ft each.
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TSgedebe
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Jan 31 2013, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(mywii @ Jan 31 2013, 08:58 AM) sometime we save but end up dont like it or not suitable then what's the point.... I was using a swing gate before and when my gate guy show me the new ones I asked what happen to the center stopper and lock. you can ask them to add the stopper lock in the center. Your swing door will be stopped at the stopper in the center and a metal rod will drop down and lock. new model dont use this but they do add if you want. However, I finally decided to use folding coz I did my new gate wider and hence swing gate will open quite out which is inconvenient to turn into my porch and cant park in front of my house. Hmm, if I use the folding type, my total length of my gate will be 16ft and will be minus out 2ft when folded. Now I only left with 4 more feet to do 2 pillar as my total house width is only 20ft and 1 of the pillar must be housing the mailbox and dustbin, dustbin housing need like 3 feet.
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TSgedebe
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Jan 31 2013, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(mywii @ Jan 31 2013, 09:40 AM) yup you do have an issue with folding gate...unless you dont mind the pilar not the same size at each side of the gate. I dont put dustbin outside coz there are dogs. And in my area, the collector comes quite punctual on alternate days. So we just put out the rubbish in the morning. My contractor before did advice to "plant" a dustbin metal stand and put the bin on top where dogs cant topple or reach the top. You may want to consider that. OK, good suggestion, I think I will have to go for this if I want a bigger folding gate opening.
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TSgedebe
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Feb 5 2013, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(gedebe @ Jan 31 2013, 11:10 AM) OK, good suggestion, I think I will have to go for this if I want a bigger folding gate opening. I end up deciding to put my dustbin outside and install folding gate with 16" wide. Should be ok right for a compound of 20'x25'?
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TSgedebe
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Feb 5 2013, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(mywii @ Feb 5 2013, 09:55 PM) whatever it is please check with your contractor and gate guy....dont forget your letter box and also in case you want 3phase power box (if your house is not on 3 phase now).. Dcmoto seller claim no problem to pull even a 20' swing gate!
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TSgedebe
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Jun 15 2013, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(soonyeap @ Jun 14 2013, 11:47 PM) So what you ended installing bro? I've settled for 16', but not is still undecided on the gap of the gate plank
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