People always say Ivy league is much better than Oxbridge and there is no controversy in this statement, u agree?

but i feel strange, isnt british education one of the best, if not the best in the world? how come harvard, MIT and UC Berkeley pawns oxbridge everytime? (got one /k tard studying in UCBerkeley, :idea:malaysia boleh!!!) and oxbridge has a longer history than harvard right?


also, why are back (african and carribean) people under-represented in Oxbridge? (just heard from a friend that came back from visiting cambridge, despite the fact african carribean make up quite a huge population of GB, blacks in oxbridge are literally non existent, even malayisan also got 5 people made it in there last intake, malaysia boleh!)

and also mods, what happened to my gift thread!!! i go out come back already board msg.

berkeley is not ivy league lol. ivy league schools tend to have better resources than oxbridge. harvard's endowment is about $35 billion, oxford has about 5 billion.

i don't think anyone argues that all 8 ivy schools are definitely better than oxbridge though

the example is like y ppl like shitsung phone over others

which in fact other brand is far more superior than korean crap

a lot of pipu say study at what uni also no diff one. degree is just a paper that gives u the ticket into working world

do jew agree?

Not when it comes to the oxbridge / ivy league. There's a lot of fast track jobs that won't even look at you unless you've got a degree from those Unis.

what you learn may not be that much different but what university you went to definitely affects how potential employers pre-judge you. it matters less if you're going to be an entrepreneur but in that case you'll benefit from a much stronger alumni network if you'd gone to a top university. for example, it's about 10000x easier for a harvard kid to get a front office position at goldman sachs than some state university kid, not that the harvard kid is any better at the job.

This post has been edited by iceypain: Jan 16 2013, 10:47 AM

MIT and Berkeley is not an ivy league. Ivy league and oxbridge is overrated.

i find your question to be all over the place. kejap tanya ivy league, then cakap MIT and UC berkeley better than oxbridge, then ask about african/caribbean. dafuq is this thread about??

there are even better schools than both ivy league and oxbridge. IMHO, if what you are looking for is a good education that doesnt break the bank, go to a different school. unless you are super rich or seriously crave the imaginary prestige of being schooled in ivy/oxbridge, there is not much point in paying through your nose to attend those schools.

Some people don't get it, you don't need to pay through your nose to attend this Unis. You are paid to go to these unis.

This post has been edited by dvng: Jan 16 2013, 11:35 PM

TS since you're shown to be obsessed with qualifications, I'm assuming you're still a 2"

In the US and UK, some of the elite University grads are now trying to hide their qualifications so that they won't be denied jobs.

Unless your father is some VIP that has a job reserved for you, those who seek jobs through fair interviews without connections are more shy to reveal that they are Oxbridge/Harvard/Ivy grads.They'll lose advantage as soonas they reveal it.

Of course many are paid by their crony parents scholarships with a cushy job waiting upon their graduations.

sorry destiny had pegged me on something way bigger than a boring life.

Frankly, most employers who stumbles upon a fresh Oxbridge/Ivy grad whom he/she doesn't know well for employment, the things they'll have in mind is:

1) Salary demand in this state of economy
2) Will this guy be a threat to me
3) Any places more for him to fill when I already have my favs in my list.

Clearly didn't go to any of those unis and working at cinapek company

Wow, aku masuk thread ni can feel my IQ increased by 10 points.

i still hate u for 2 reasons

1)making my thread board msg
2) indirectly making me kena ban

Lol dammit ayam innocent wei.

Surely if you're going to get a Oxbridge/Ivy degree, you don't plan to seek employment by means of walk in interview and application. Right?

and how are you going to be known if no one introduces you? University organizes employment event? Bapak help to pull cable and ice breaking?

just ask him to listen x 1000

Noob ah neh, even tar college got job fairs n ppl coming to recruit before they grad... U say ivies how leh?

LOL haha good idea

why not?

US education > UK education

So you think you'll be at advantage against the crowd lining outside while your Oxbridge degree will prove that you're the smartest among the crowd?

To the employer it's rubbish and this is not what the recruiters are looking for.

time to go to wall street and see how many harvard graduates there

may be due to their arrogance, there are none.

maybe

right, according to your infinite wisdom. just give me the interview and i'll prove my worth, the ivy degree is just a signal.

networking and targeted recruiting definitely beat direct applications and ivy league schools (i don't know about oxbridge) provide excellent facilitation for both. but that's not to say that i'm suddenly rubbish if i apply on my own. lots of desirable employers only look at applicants from branded universities.

lots of wall street jobs are direct applications too. sometimes people even cold-call / email for jobs. i know i did. the arrogant ivy league stereotype is not 100% representative.

Right you can prove your worth. At the end of the day your employment will also depend on whether you're willing to accept the salary offer and your ability to polish your superior shoes by accomplishing your given tasks. You might report direct to Trump and I'm telling you he's doesn't give an 'F' of your paper but your ability to satisfy his wants.As soon as you start slipping on your job, he's got all the money to replace you with all the choices he has on the streets.

Welcome to the working underclass. You're always at the disposal of the ruling class unless you come from one yourself where your destiny is to rule.

I agree, I'm not arguing with that. My disagreement was with your argument that Ivy / Oxbridge people don't apply for jobs like everybody else. Oh, and being employed isn't all bad. I like my job, I'm good at it and I get paid well to do it, why the fuk not? The world is not a dichotomy of rulers and slaves, hasn't been for a few centuries.

sour grape is sour

lol. don't even know why i'm wasting my time with this di.ckhole. back to trolling.