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arjunaidi
post Jul 2 2013, 04:21 PM

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My system integrator completed the 2.5kWp solar on my rooftop 41 days ago. I have a lot of follow-up calls to both my SI and TNB to get a Testing & Commissioning date before my system is connected to the grid.

arjunaidi in Putrajaya
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post Jul 3 2013, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Justmua @ Jul 2 2013, 04:29 PM)
So, your system generated electricity for 41 days and it went up in thin air?

Do share with the rest of us of the progress. Thinking of installing one too..

How long it took SEDA to approve your application?
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sorry I confused some members here. My SI completed the job of installing the panels 42 days ago but the system cannot be connected to the grid until it is Tested & Commissioned by TNB. any how, I already got TNB date next week for this to happen. I expect my first payment from TNB in Sept 2013 (I give two months delay to be on safe side).

I encourage members to read the comprehensive FAQ at SEDA. It answers most of the questions that people have on RE.

http://seda.gov.my/go-home.php?omaneg=0001...000000000&s=171

Yes, I will share progress of the project at the forum, including some project photos. However, for pricing of the system, do send me a PM. I don't want to be in breach of forum rules.

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post Jul 8 2013, 03:14 PM

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5 years ROI is good. What is your average monthly income from TNB for your 6kWp system?

tq
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post Jul 9 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(arjunaidi @ Jul 3 2013, 10:16 AM)
sorry I confused some members here.  My SI completed the job of installing the panels 42 days ago but the system cannot be connected to the grid until it is Tested & Commissioned by TNB.  any how, I already got TNB date next week for this to happen.  I expect my first payment from TNB in Sept 2013 (I give two months delay to be on safe side).

I encourage members to read the comprehensive FAQ at SEDA.  It answers most of the questions that people have on RE.

http://seda.gov.my/go-home.php?omaneg=0001...000000000&s=171

Yes, I will share progress of the project at the forum, including some project photos.  However, for pricing of the system, do send me a PM.  I don't want to be in breach of forum rules.

cheers

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Today my 2.5kWp system is grid-connected after TNB Testing & Commissioning.

T&C completed at 1100h. it was raining and cloudy until 1500h. Production ceased at sunset 1920h. Total production 6kWh, total exported 5kWh.

sharing some photos here.


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post Jul 10 2013, 11:01 AM

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I kWh was consumed by appliances in my home. It was a working day, only my fridge was on, plus some other appliances such as Astro, modem, PC, wireless IP camera, etc on standby mode.


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post Jul 10 2013, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(avereng @ Jul 10 2013, 05:38 PM)
Bro, your house roof gradient is very high. Your PV system generation will be lower than others. Your Service Provider told u bout this concern before?
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yes, roof slope is 35 degrees. My Service Provider briefed me on the limitations and I have done much research before investing in the system.

you can't see it in the photo. partial shading at 6.15pm caused by neighbour's rooftop slows production but I am not overly worried by partial shading at this time when the sun is going to set anyway.

I am happy, on Day 2 , my PV generated 10kWh. that's 10 x 1.3708 = RM 13.708, all in a day's work smile.gif
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post Jul 16 2013, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Kasy @ Jul 15 2013, 12:17 AM)
Some of my friends installed their solar PV in April and until today the contractor cannot get TNB to test and commission the system.  All the powner generated for more than a month has gone down the drain.
There is an article today in Malaysiakini asking Parliament to push to close down SEDA.
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SEDA has responded to these allegations. SEDA website is useful, answering many of the questions raised in the forum here. They are not perfect, but they did a good job, imho.

http://seda.gov.my/go-home.php?omaneg=0001...000&y=45&s=2936


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post Jul 17 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(ectt @ Jul 16 2013, 05:06 PM)
pity that your case went whirling

1)interested in knowing your installation, care to share some photos?

2) if it is not approved at the end, you may switch your system to off-grid usage.
go buy batteries and a controller(not sure the current one you installed)
tap the wires from PV to the controller, connect controller output to the battery bank. the controller will control the charging of the battery
battery energy will be used supply electricity to your home use when it is filled
or the controller will switch to tnb when it detects the battery is going run out of energy.

In that case, your installation will not be wasted.

btw, what is S02 bonus for extra RM0.25? want to install the system ourselves and just ask SI to certify and apply with TNB. We also want to know more the installation standard, requirement, etc.

thanks for sharing.
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Pls refer to the attachment for the explanation of the bonus rates. In my case, I got 2013 FiT rate at RM1.13708/kWh inclusive of bonus rate S01 (panels "used as installation in buildings or building structures")

Because of the degression system, rates will decrease every year, so hurry get your FiT approval as soon as you are ready to invest. For my installation, I began application in February this year, FiT approved March, panels installed May and commissioned July. I expect to get payment in Sept. fingers crossed :-)


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post Jul 18 2013, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(shHiew @ Jul 18 2013, 09:00 AM)
Around RM35k ~ RM36k for a 4kW System. There are 5 persons doing this together with me, I got a relatively better group purchase.
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good value, a kind of groupon for solar
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post Jul 18 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Kasy @ Jul 16 2013, 02:40 PM)
My system was approved as integrated i.e. additional for use as building materials with bonus S02 for additional RM0.25.  The solar panel was installed over a steel structure like an awning covering the whole air well on top of the roof.  Now the COO said this system does not qualify for integrated because there is no activity under the panel.  There are no proper guidelines or terms and conditions which stipulates that there must be activity under the panel.  It is only after 6 months after having completed the system and waiting for payment that SEDA COO came out with the condition and told my contractor that the system does not qualify  for bonus S02 after having approved my application and sign the REPPA agreement with me.  If SEDA have informed me of the condition during my application then I would not have installed the panel and wasted almost RM50,000 of my hard earned money.  Now who is at fault, SEDA or contractor?  Why must I be penalized for their mistake?  The power generated have been feed to the grid for more than 6 months and I have not received a single cent.
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Please refer to SEDA rules on interpretation of the bonus rate eligibility.


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post Jul 20 2013, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Kasy @ Jul 20 2013, 12:25 PM)
Thanks Arjunaidi for your help.  Now I realized its not COO's fault, my apologies, I have been ill-advised.
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You are welcome.

yesterday was clear sunny sky, I got my best solar output yet. for my 2.5 kWp system, I am happy if I get 8kWh per day.
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post Jul 21 2013, 06:44 AM

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QUOTE(Kasy @ Jul 20 2013, 11:09 PM)
For your information, I got 16 kw yesterday and 18 kw today for my 4.0 kw system.  My max was 24 kw and min. 3 kw per day since installation
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Solar PV output is dependent on your location, among many factors. In Malaysia, Kota Kinabalu, Miri and Penang are "hotspots" with high irradiance levels.

I found that my PV works best on bright, clear days with minimum cloud cover. There should also be some breeze that would slightly cool down the solar panels, since PV output decreases with increasing temperature.


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post Jul 21 2013, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jul 20 2013, 11:26 PM)
wah u also here?

anyway isnt better to use normal tnb rate for home use, and solar production sell back to tnb? hmm.gif
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Yes, it's called load management. Plan to do your ironing, run the washing machine and other heavy electrical usage activities during the night when there is no solar production. This way, you pay normal TNB rates (~RM0.27 per kWh) and minimize consumption of your own PV generated electricity.
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post Jul 22 2013, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(avereng @ Jul 22 2013, 09:17 AM)
Build over airwell is good idea. Panel efficiency lost due to heat is lower.
FYI, on a good month, my PV system can get 3.8-4kWh/kWp performance for Selangor area.
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the haze is back at Putrajaya. The diffused light is not good for solar production, I expect yield to be reduced :-(
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post Jul 23 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(arjunaidi @ Jul 22 2013, 04:58 PM)
the haze is back at Putrajaya. The diffused light is not good for solar production, I expect yield to be reduced :-(
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Celebrating my system's 100th kW production today, 14 days after commissioning on 09 July 2013. My solar PV system is the second best investment after my house :-)




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post Jul 23 2013, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 23 2013, 02:53 PM)
Arjunaidi, TNB paid U already boh for that 100 kW? sweat.gif
eggs counting and hatching thinggy neh
i worry too coz i've vested interest too tongue.gif
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One can expect FiT payment from TNB 30 days after receiving payment advice. see Step 10 in the FiT brochure


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post Jul 23 2013, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Maknusia @ Jul 23 2013, 03:10 PM)
I have a question here as well. Since your Solar Panel rating is 2.5kwp; how is it that its producing 6-7kWh?

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Pls see my calculations based on example shown in SEDA brochure


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post Jul 24 2013, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(andrewsh @ Jul 24 2013, 06:59 PM)
Never heard of this brand before, anyway to find info from the web
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an Australian based system integrator uses REIN panels and inverter. check here http://www.solarnaturally.com/my/product/solar-pv-system/


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post Jul 28 2013, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(juneww @ Jul 24 2013, 11:02 PM)
Quota is running out very fast nowdays. Everyday 150Kw~200Kw being taken start from July.
If anyone really want to install for 2013 rate, must act fast now.

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Only 870 kW solar PV quota remaining for 2013. This is equivalent to about 217 houses, assuming each has a 4 kWp installation.

So if you are thinking to install solar, do it now and get the 2013 quota now. Next year degression will mean the FiT rates start from RM1.06 per kWh.

I can help those interested to get this year's quota. Pls PM me. thank you.

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post Jul 29 2013, 10:04 AM

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Hi all.

My PV system is now online for viewing at the SMA website under "Publicly Available Plants"

direct link is here http://www.sunnyportal.com/Templates/Publi...sPlantList.aspx

search city "Putrajaya"

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