putting on turbo/supercharge izzit will not lower the handling capability ?
cant it be tune to become super NA machine? not sure how (maybe full race cam + extreme head job + stand alone ECU + etc secret recipe), coz by maintain its as NA will maintain its handling capability which its forte..

or maybe super NA for neo R3 isn't powerful enough ?

ehh.. which statement ya

all of it?
hermm.. putting turbo/super charge maybe?

Super NA means highly mod without using force induction system..
last time i did see neo turbocharge, but the acceleration not as good as 4g93 SOHC manual with lightly mod (intake system + exhaust system + trinity clutch plate + e-manage), not sure why ? maybe neo boost set at low boost (eg 0.5-0.7 bar), or maybe driver fault.. not sure which one

for touge session of course NA have better handling, try increase ur car torque instead of hp.. handling downgrade when turbo/super charge it because power not lateral anymore, that suddenly boost power/torque will make ur car harder to control when full throttle especially while cornering..

but for supercharge, it has large displacement effect means the power not as sudden as turbocharge, its like 1600cc when supercharge it u will feel its like 2000cc torque/pick-up/acceleration.. but the issue when at high RPM, some say it will burden back the engine load (like aircon compressor load, when u trun off while high rpm ur engine seem lighter right?)

correct me if i'm wrong sifu's

the neo turbo i found i'm not sure how much hp does it have.. his owner is one of my group member when we go for TT last time.. he actually quite surprise that 4g93 sohc can side by side with his neo turbo when all our geng member start to accelerate after tol (cant remember where, but its a new highway n rarely vehicle use it, and it has very long straight road)

the supercharge unit i explain before will burden the engine like using aircon at high rpm, i'm nat saying using aircon while tougeing

if me i will upgrade
1. suspension system (adjustable, lower arm bar, bigger ARB for rear, adjustable camber plate etc)
2. braking system (racing disc + racing pad, i use AXT Turbo disc once with endless SSS brake pad, it is really a good combination when compare using AXT Turbo brake pad)
3. drivetrain (triniti clutch plate and its clutch cover)
3. then upgrade engine power (last time i did upgrade intake n exhaust system only, engine stock standard)

now using vios only, last time i use wira sedan track car.. daily only using motorcycle.. huhu.. sold oredy that wira to my friend, really miss the adrenalin rush when driving it.. retire oredy coz having a baby now..
that wira can only clock 2min and 50s for whole sepang circuit timing, its 0-100 is 8sec flat.. that's the best i and wira can do, but the engine still in stock condition (no mod except for open pod air filter and 2' piping), concentrate more on braking, handling and drivetrain.. power comes last.. hehe

about compressor will kaput i think compressor from half-cut shop last longer then buy new.. that's my experience with wira, other cars not sure..

no toyol bro, seriously

swaps directly evo 6 engine !!

yup.. sure no problem bro.. the car now at section 2 shah alam.. grey in color with black sport rims.. that's why i'm not sure how much that neo turbo hps.. maybe that time his engine got problem?
its not about hps, some say torque win the races

try 90 degree corner, sure myvi cannot follow as fast as nep cps corner.. lower center of gravity..
for straight road cannot comment

if compare neo cps auto n vios auto acceleration i can say both kinda similar.. but handling is totally different, vios kinda floaty feel while neo cps will be firm n steady feel.. driven both already, so i can compare..

This post has been edited by amad108: Jan 25 2013, 08:16 PM

maybe swift sport rarely seen, summore if its manual bye2 oredy.. 0-100km/h in 8sec liou..

wanna outrun them need to find those road which got many bumps

agree bro ,Cant agree more

i'm pretty sure that my friend's neo non-cps 1.6 can reach 220km/h, as for lancer GT i did try top speed with it, still cant outrun my wira track car top speed which is at 220km/h too, maybe it can reach but not as quick as my wira.. all this tested with my TT geng, all have different car (EG6, EK9, GTR33, GTT34, sedan GTT34, 300ZX fairlady with 2JZ engine, version 8 impreza, GTR35, myvi, kancil turbo, neo turbo, RX8, lancer GT, and me with wira track car)

its wira 1.6 bro.. even when its auto can reach 180km/h, the important thing for NA is enough back-pressure in exhaust flow.. i think most wira 1.6 have similar speed (if the owner really take care the engine of course)

that's normally happen to NA 1.6 engine (eg initial D AE86), it has 240hp, also have really low in torque, but the gear ratio will be plays as important role..

scared ur bro neo CPS FC will be very bad.. 1.6 CPS auto 0-100 similar to vios bro.. top speed maybe neo higher coz better stability n drag coefficient..

honda normally i heard from mechanic, they have really good gbx.. the strong point for honda is at their gbx.. each time changing gear, only around 2k RPM will drop, close ratio gbx maybe honda use..
mitsu also got with close ratio gbx, eg VR4RS, but its sacrifice the top speed a bit..