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 Malaysian employers discrimate by race?, according to UM & UKM study (Nov 12)

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hercules899
post Jan 9 2013, 08:39 PM

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CHINA-MAN companies, nobody would wanna work there , if you have got no choice then work for 3to 6 months then you can hop LIAO

If i were decent educated Malay, i would join GLCs or Government , what for working for those China-man companies? peanut pay, need to work like dog, and most importantly, they always think that you should OT unlimited just because the RM 1500 being offered IS SO MUCH.

They will most like say, "WHEN MY TIME AH, i was paid RM 500 as fresh.

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hercules899
post Jan 10 2013, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jan 10 2013, 06:45 AM)
@hercules899
All companies whether CHINA-MAN companies, Foreign or bumi owned give out peanut pay, need to work like dog, and most importantly, they always think that you should Be grateful to work OT and appreciative of your low pay. Not much or very little difference.

@michael light, you have a point , making things easier for some through the system may have been the result of this....in real workplace, every employers are demanding and generally are not compelled to make working life 'easy
'... And that may influence their decision in choosing who they expect can take on hard work and endure.

@dreamer101. Double standards before you graduate, double standard after you graduates. Double standard will remain. To think new  government can actually change that, is really something quite far fetch...keadilan seek for keadilan but would they really make an adil malaysia? Only time will tell
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Then you go work for CHINA-MAN companies please, but I bet you are not and will not. It is already a proven fact that MNC is so much better than china-man companies.


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post Jan 14 2013, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jan 14 2013, 03:25 PM)
Yes, everyone should know where their opportunities lie. and Hence GLCs and Public Admin has to be increased to keep up. C+I go mostly for Private and MNCs, but the surprsing fact is actually the Malay- Controlled Pte companies surveyed also preferred Chinese, one theory is probably they know GLCs and Public Admin is where most Malay graduates see as priority and preferred employer over these Malay owned Pte companies?
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But do you think GLCs got enough positions to cater ALL Princes and Princesses ? NEVER gonna happen.

Basically, most of the well-informed graduates will try to get into GLCs or the MNCs. IMHO, if the Prices or Princesses cannot even get a Job in GLCs, it means they are pretty much at the the bottom of other competing graduates.

However, for non-bumi graduates , its different story.


hercules899
post Jan 15 2013, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jan 15 2013, 10:44 AM)
Are you kidding me, not enough you say?
Did you know 40% of PLCs in Malaysia is GLCs

Public service in malaysia employ 10% of the employable population, the highest in the world

Sime Darby provides 104,000 employment, Feda (now listed) 20,000, TNB 30,000, TM 25,000, Proton 12,000 Petronas 40,000, CIMB 37,000, UMW corp 10,500, RHB 11,000, Ambank 10,000. DRB Hicom 15,000, 2,000 to 3,000 Each for Wesport, Affin , Agro (formerly Bank Pertanian), Naza (actually 4k), etc.

I have not included yet (becoz info not available) for Maybank, MAS, Malaysia Airports Holdings, MRCB, MISC, CCM, KTM, Pos Malaysia (now listed), Media Prima (which include NSTP), Utusan Melayu, UEM, and hundreds more government agencies like Bursa Malaysia, Sec Commission, SSM, Sirim, Bernama, the list can go on and on, not forgetting State Entities like Johor Corps, Pasdec, etc.

Still not enough buy some more, like what happen to E&O, SP Setia, OSK , and the infamous sugar refinery biz of one of the richest chinese in the world.......
Why stop in Malaysia, buy some more and offer employment also overseas lah, e.g.
For instance, CIMB Group Holdings Bhd started embarking on this trail when it acquired Singapore-based GK Goh Stockbrokers Pte Ltd in 2005.

In April this year, CIMB extended its reach into the Asia-Pacific markets when it acquired Royal Bank of Scotland's (RBS) cash equities and associated investment-banking businesses for RM849.4mil. Last month, the group managed to gain a foothold in the Philippines, following its acquisition of a 60% stake in the Bank of Commerce, the 16th largest bank in the country.

Maybank Investment Bank Bhd (MIB), too, has been bolstering its presence in the region. Last year, it acquired Singapore-based Kim Eng Holdings Ltd and formed a significant regional investment group called Maybank Kim Eng.

Still not enough? dish out mega projects and divide in among gamuda, UEM, any JV between local and Foreign companies.

So apa nak takut?
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The total figure provided is roughly 300k jobs ( excluding government jobs) , there are more than 10 millions princes and princesses in Malaysia . Imagine only 5 million of them needed a job, these companies you mentioned only can provide 25% of the princes and princesses a job.

Then you said the GLCs can acquire more companies, true . but then they still have to rely on the previous senior management of the companies and most of whom are not princes and princesses. For example, S P Setia .

And not to mention in order to maintain their political status and also due to religion reasons, the princes and princesses just mass produce without planning . ( financial, educational planning for their offspring) .

Thats why i said no mater how GLC works, they can never have enough jobs for ALL the princes and princesses.

If my opinion, most of the unemployed grads , most of whom are princes and princesses of Malaysia SHOULD NOT HAVE BE admitted into the universities/degree factories in the 1st place .


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post Jan 15 2013, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jan 15 2013, 02:39 PM)
As I have mentioned, the 300k is the one that we can get to see their figure...I have not included yet (becoz info not available) for Maybank, MAS, Malaysia Airports Holdings, MRCB, MISC, CCM, KTM, Pos Malaysia (now listed), Media Prima (which include NSTP), Utusan Melayu, UEM, and hundreds more government agencies like Bursa Malaysia, Sec Commission, SSM, Sirim, Bernama, the list can go on and on, not forgetting State Entities like Johor Corps, Pasdec, etc.

All add up what magic no am not sure. but i suspect in total will be millions, Also, please don't forget those non GLC whether Foreign owned MNCs, Pte companies still have to somewhat observe 30% employment of bumis as requirement...to operate or else have to write a lot of explanation report. mSia now has 28 mill, but not all are of working age. In fact less than 70% is of working age, see below:

Key demographic ratesPopulation growth rate^: 1.542% (2012 data)
Age Structure^:
0–14 years: 29.6% (male 4,118,086/female 3,884,403)
15–64 years: 65.4% (male 7,838,166/female 7,785,833)
65 years and over: 5% (male 526,967/female 667,831) (2011 est.)

So the total working force is roughly 18m only but should be even lower because age 15 to 17 need to be taken out so would some of the 55 to 64 years old
out of this say 16 mil, bumi is 8 mil lah since Bumiputras are divided into Malays, who make up the majority of the Malaysian population at 50.4%; and other bumiputra, who make up 11% of the Malaysian population.

Not all Malay or bumi end up working in Msia, there could be some working overseas, ALSO, Not all end up working some do own biz, some do from home, some just single parent working, so still can fit at the moment but i agree how long can keep up is any body guess, some sure even being Malay or bumi get sidelined, hence unhappy and want KEADILAN????
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rclxub.gif . Your English is getting powerful.

To sum up my point in a sentence .Most of the unemployed grads have the qualities of Ms Listen.

 

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