QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 14 2014, 10:28 AM)
Sifu your head. Bursa Traders Thread V2, waaa! V2 d !
Bursa Traders Thread V2, waaa! V2 d !
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Feb 14 2014, 10:37 AM
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Feb 14 2014, 10:37 AM
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Feb 14 2014, 10:39 AM
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Ok... happy Chap Go May.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Got to go kai kai... Happy trading... |
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Feb 14 2014, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 14 2014, 10:35 AM) Yeah... I do understand that for this one... Yeah they have high depreciation... low (almost non existent) capex. Thier FCF is actually 2x thier EPS... the value case... 'might' tip the stock over.... the money 'hidden' by the depreciation charges ... is making the cash pile grow bigger each year... So for value players... they be asking... 'How long can the cash pile go un-noticed? Of course - the risk is that the owners can simply splash the money away. This post has been edited by gark: Feb 14 2014, 10:39 AM |
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Feb 14 2014, 10:53 AM
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Feb 14 2014, 12:26 PM
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So good meh get 2 hours lunch break
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Feb 14 2014, 12:27 PM
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Feb 14 2014, 12:54 PM
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Ok 9326
Company manufacturers aluminum extrusions, anodizing and powder coating of aluminum. Steady growing revenue business, but profit has been spotty, but got some improvement in profit from 2011-2013. profit have high reliance of raw aluminum ingot price as it is a feedstock for the company. To understand this we have to look at aluminum prices as the graph below. The steady rise in profit from 2011 is primary due to reduction of aluminum price since the peak at 2011. ![]() However spot price for aluminum has been steadily rising at early February from 72 cent/lb to 76 cent/lb, but still a 40% below the peak of $1.25/lb. If the aluminum price continues on its price reducing trajectory then it will benefit 9326. However all aluminum prices are transacted in USD in which it depends if the company can pass on the differences due to the recent devaluation of the currency. Sales are primary in Malaysia ( 75%) & Singapore ( 20%) while 100% of raw materials are priced in USD. Most of the sales are towards property construction companies and depend heavily on the property demand. For the financials, the company is healthy, with some cash and some loan, however the company is not a net cash company. The PE ratio is more or less fair at 8x, unless the company can show further growth, then the PE ratio will be around there. The current weakness in the share price is due to no dividends, hence a risk for holding the company long term having no income while waiting for the price to appreciate. Gross and net margins of 6% and 5% is not particularly attractive signifying the company does not have good pricing power for it's products probably due to high competition. Free cash flow is also ok at 1:1 ratio to EPS, which is fair. EV/Ebitda of the company is also around 8x which is also fair. I would rate the company prospects as slightly undervalue, but the share price will be slow moving and highly reliant on the international aluminum prices. If there is a continuous fall in aluminum prices and continuous demand for property, I believe the earning margins of this company can improve significantly, also if the company decide to pay a decent dividend which it is capable of from the healthy free cash flows. But the opposite is also true, so it is a risk to be seen. This post has been edited by gark: Feb 14 2014, 12:56 PM |
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Feb 14 2014, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 14 2014, 12:54 PM) Ok 9326 I am amased... you can come out with this within < 30 minutes. Company manufacturers aluminum extrusions, anodizing and powder coating of aluminum. Steady growing revenue business, but profit has been spotty, but got some improvement in profit from 2011-2013. profit have high reliance of raw aluminum ingot price as it is a feedstock for the company. To understand this we have to look at aluminum prices as the graph below. The steady rise in profit from 2011 is primary due to reduction of aluminum price since the peak at 2011. ![]() However spot price for aluminum has been steadily rising at early February from 72 cent/lb to 76 cent/lb, but still a 40% below the peak of $1.25/lb. If the aluminum price continues on its price reducing trajectory then it will benefit 9326. However all aluminum prices are transacted in USD in which it depends if the company can pass on the differences due to the recent devaluation of the currency. Sales are primary in Malaysia ( 75%) & Singapore ( 20%) while 100% of raw materials are priced in USD. Most of the sales are towards property construction companies and depend heavily on the property demand. For the financials, the company is healthy, with some cash and some loan, however the company is not a net cash company. The PE ratio is more or less fair at 8x, unless the company can show further growth, then the PE ratio will be around there. The current weakness in the share price is due to no dividends, hence a risk for holding the company long term having no income while waiting for the price to appreciate. Gross and net margins of 6% and 5% is not particularly attractive signifying the company does not have good pricing power for it's products probably due to high competition. Free cash flow is also ok at 1:1 ratio to EPS, which is fair. EV/Ebitda of the company is also around 8x which is also fair. I would rate the company prospects as slightly undervalue, but the share price will be slow moving and highly reliant on the international aluminum prices. If there is a continuous fall in aluminum prices and continuous demand for property, I believe the earning margins of this company can improve significantly, also if the company decide to pay a decent dividend which it is capable of from the healthy free cash flows. But the opposite is also true, so it is a risk to be seen. BTW, where you get the research besides the financial data? |
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Feb 14 2014, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(kingkong1 @ Feb 14 2014, 01:21 PM) I am amased... you can come out with this within < 30 minutes. Too much practice... BTW, where you get the research besides the financial data? Read the Q report, annual report, analyst report, 5 years financial, look at the graph, read the website etc etc... This post has been edited by gark: Feb 14 2014, 01:27 PM |
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