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post Dec 16 2013, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 16 2013, 12:44 PM)
Oo....how danger.? I tot now bill letrik naik this also will?
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veri danger.. last time went up from 40 cents to 82 cents and drop back to 60 cents.. danger or not?
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post Dec 16 2013, 12:56 PM

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Bought some BBRI @ 6,800 sweat.gif

Today JSX go crazy again drop almost 50 points.. cheap sale... rclxms.gif
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post Dec 16 2013, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 16 2013, 01:00 PM)
LOL!  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

What la...
Draw picture also must draw out wall... tongue.gif

Those pixs, nothing much to brain one la...

First chart actually shows the great discrepancy between Inari and Insas chart, where Inari clear champion. tongue.gif
That was based 200 records, or 200 trading days.

Second chart showed how Insas value was 'discovered' start Nov 2013.

Now if look closely on the 3rd chart, around mid Nov, do both charts look as if they are mimicking each other... ?

Would this be a help?  rolleyes.gif
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errrr.. ok lah can understand a bit bit...

so conclusion apa? mother catching up to son? laugh.gif
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post Dec 16 2013, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 16 2013, 01:02 PM)
currency up or down?
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currency down kaw kaw...vs USD laugh.gif

Since i have some rupiah stash away at bank, might as well invest. If convert to RM now rugi a lot ooor.. sweat.gif

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post Dec 16 2013, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 16 2013, 01:27 PM)
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All also I must make conclusion meh? tongue.gif
Many use info diffeerent manner wo...
For example, they see past 50 trading days, greem line performed better in terms of %...
So they bet, this trend continues....
Which for them....
when they consider the shadow movements...
they 'might' put a case in that since the green line stock costs cheaper...
they might conclude green is better....

Some might not agree....
The 'anak' is where all the money is...
The 'anak' is where all the action is...
why waste time will all this gibberish sin kar nonsense? laugh.gif
Kayu up 8 sen. tongue.gif
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but.. bapak got many hidden $$$.. FOC one wor... brows.gif

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post Dec 16 2013, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Dec 16 2013, 02:38 PM)
if today AHB can make me RM10k ...

i will buy a german shepherd and name him as AHB !!

come to papa AHB .... bite off all those bad ppl's dxck !  icon_idea.gif  brows.gif
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Mirzan Mahathir... brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Dec 16 2013, 02:42 PM

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Indon stock exchange index.. morning -50 points, before lunch -33 points now -47 points... sweat.gif

So volatile.. KTL should play here LOL... laugh.gif

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post Dec 16 2013, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Dec 16 2013, 02:39 PM)
brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

good spot ... at least this son is better than jib gor's son....  wub.gif
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Well if you win 10k, you can name the dog after him.. wub.gif
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post Dec 16 2013, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Dec 16 2013, 02:47 PM)
ah-bee / ah-B

quite nice oso  laugh.gif
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traditional name for dog is Ah Wong.. so Ah B**n not too far off. hmm.gif
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post Dec 16 2013, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 16 2013, 03:01 PM)
Ini hari kena tumbuk cow cow cos of CFO exit?
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very kow meh? 5 sen only mah... probably lah.. CFO resign.. many ppl scared...
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post Dec 16 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 16 2013, 04:44 PM)
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first u wan...
u ask...
then u kena ask back...
now u dun wan ?

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Indian movie ah?

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He want sure win counters.. brows.gif
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post Dec 16 2013, 04:59 PM

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Today not so good day..

ini mari yao drop
in&a& yao drop
WB yao drop
CB-Ip yap drop
Ah Sai yao drop

Losing my luck already de.. rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 16 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 16 2013, 05:02 PM)
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this a complaint forum ah?
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post Dec 16 2013, 08:38 PM

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KAYU

Overview...

KAYU's manufactures fiberboard and rubber wood board and RTA which it's main product. This industry segment has always been challenging and margins vary. The bulk of it's profit is from RTA (Ready to assemble) products, you typically find in hypermart and assemble yourself at home.

TTM : 22.8 EPS, TTM PE : 4.8x, TTM ROE : 9.3%, TTM PAT Margin : 5.5%, DY% : Insignificant, PBV : 0.45

Very high PBT growth over the last 3Q, despite overall revenue reduction from 100 mil to 86 mil. This can be explained via increase of margin from <3% to 6-7% in the latest quarter sales.

The expanded margin is however similar to 2009 and then the margin fell back to previous level 1-2 years after that. Will this latest margin expansion be sustainable? Upon checking in depth into the report for the source of margin expansion we found that almost 90% of the product is priced in USD and destined for export market. With the rise of USD, margins improve as cost is mostly in RM. Every 1% appreciation of USD/MYR will add approx 0.5-0.6 mil per Q of profit for KAYU.

Main export market is Japan (40%), followed by China and India. With recent depreciation of JPY, the products priced in USD will be less competitive and will probably hurt sales volume as evident in the latest Q where total revenue fell but margin improved. This will be a double edge sword as lower sales revenue might cause price reduction and hence hurting margin in the future.

Balance Sheet

Semi-healthy balance sheet with 19 mil cash on hand but with 114 million borrowings. Most of the equity is locked up under PPE.

Cash flow is very healthy as PPE depreciation is higher than net profit. That coupled with low capex expenditures, provide KAYU with very healthy cash flow. FCF is estimated to be at least 20-24 cents/share. This is significant as the P/FCF is only 4x-5x.

Although it has an approximately 45% portion of the loan in USD, the majority of earning in USD will negate forex risk of the loan. 90% of trade receivable is in USD. Almost 100% of trade payable in RM.

Others, Conclusion

Warrant is currently priced at 47 cents and ex price is RM1, hence a 33.6% premium to mother share. Too high premium for limited gains.

IF the USD is to remain strong, KAYU should be able to maintain a reasonable good margin. Estimated FY13 EPS to be 20 cents/share with FCF of 25 cents/share. But if the USD is to weaken against RM, it's margin will shrink and have to declare forex loss on it's unrealized forex gain of 2.2 mil. Pegging a PE 8x for a slow/no growth industry will bring the fair value to RM 1.60.

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post Dec 16 2013, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 16 2013, 09:49 PM)
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The one thing that caught my eye big time was how 'PPE depreciation is higher than net profit.'

Stock has already moved up a fair bit ....  sweat.gif
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Depreciation is hidden earnings.. almost no one will see it.. all focus on eps. wink.gif

Should have done this analysis earlier... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

TA wise can still go boh?

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post Dec 16 2013, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 16 2013, 09:57 PM)
which kayu stock. i tink i miss out... rclxub.gif
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Ask ah boon.... tongue.gif
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post Dec 16 2013, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 16 2013, 10:02 PM)
Hevea?
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post Dec 16 2013, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 16 2013, 10:17 PM)
this one i aim at 90c region jo... but no dare go in.... cause scare... now 110 cry.gif  doh.gif  vmad.gif
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If i done my analysis earlier mah no scare jor... hmm.gif
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post Dec 16 2013, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 16 2013, 10:29 PM)
gark what do u think of this coming wednesday fed meeting? taper or not? if taper ma alot kelong??
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Probably wont taper.... 2q 2014 maybe...
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post Dec 16 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 16 2013, 11:02 PM)
saw my TA? ok?
hopefuuly la gark sifu... brows.gif
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Now on mobile internet... later only dl...

Ahem waiting comment from ta sifu boon.... whistling.gif

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