yinson news again :
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...08&sec=business
Bursa Traders Thread V2, waaa! V2 d !
Bursa Traders Thread V2, waaa! V2 d !
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Jun 7 2013, 11:32 AM
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Jun 10 2013, 03:38 PM
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hello chef & geng
riding on the yinson wok?. http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...55&sec=business This post has been edited by mabsandcals: Jun 10 2013, 03:42 PM |
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Jun 10 2013, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(mabsandcals @ Jun 10 2013, 03:38 PM) hello chef & geng riding on the yinson wok?. http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...55&sec=business congratulation holders ! |
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Jun 13 2013, 11:56 AM
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Guys wanna ask some opinion.
During uptrend, when a stock retrace, one should look to buy with a better probability to win right? Instead of when downtrend, look for rebound to enter? Thanks in advance |
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Jun 13 2013, 12:05 PM
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market red... it is good sign, as uptrend so long already.
Shopping time |
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Jun 13 2013, 01:12 PM
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I'm out from the market for the time being.....gonna concentrate on my f&b business
P/s: not totally out la, maybe gonna buy few dividend paying shares, and leave my money there P/s: my other thread with regard to my f&b business https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2529819 I'd really appreciate if you guys could give some input/opinion/critics. Thanks. This post has been edited by ciahcra: Jun 13 2013, 01:15 PM |
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Jun 13 2013, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 13 2013, 01:12 PM) I'm out from the market for the time being.....gonna concentrate on my f&b business Congratulations.P/s: not totally out la, maybe gonna buy few dividend paying shares, and leave my money there P/s: my other thread with regard to my f&b business https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2529819 I'd really appreciate if you guys could give some input/opinion/critics. Thanks. I believe you have made the right decisions. Some shares are meant to be " auto piloting " than depending on the ever changing charts , that could consume more time than you could afford. Best Regards . This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jun 13 2013, 01:52 PM |
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Jun 14 2013, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 13 2013, 01:52 PM) Congratulations. ya lor....trading is very tiring....but then again.....is the easiest business I guess. You only need to handle Mr. Market. My f&b business need to handle customers la, suppliers la, workers, need to plan for raw material purchase, licences, permits etc....I believe you have made the right decisions. Some shares are meant to be " auto piloting " than depending on the ever changing charts , that could consume more time than you could afford. Best Regards . |
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Jun 14 2013, 09:58 PM
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Jun 15 2013, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jun 13 2013, 11:56 AM) Guys wanna ask some opinion. depend what you want...During uptrend, when a stock retrace, one should look to buy with a better probability to win right? Instead of when downtrend, look for rebound to enter? Thanks in advance thursday i spent most of my piggy saving dump into shares market.... friday i sold off everything... so just see how you feel the market.... |
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Jun 15 2013, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 13 2013, 01:12 PM) I'm out from the market for the time being.....gonna concentrate on my f&b business got free steak for me or not????? P/s: not totally out la, maybe gonna buy few dividend paying shares, and leave my money there P/s: my other thread with regard to my f&b business https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2529819 I'd really appreciate if you guys could give some input/opinion/critics. Thanks. can i visit ur place ah? looks nice |
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Jun 15 2013, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jun 14 2013, 09:58 PM) My strategies are:1. In uptrend, I will go Long on Dip 2. In downtrend, I will Short on Rally 3. In sideways market, I'd most probably stay away....if you still want to trade, buy at support sell at resistance. but I will only do it if the sideways movement is wide enough Since our stock market can only buy, so only 1 and 3 can be used. However, for strategy 3, I find it very difficult to implement on our stock market due to tight movement during market consolidation. So most of the time, in order to make money, only strategy 1 will be useful. more often than not, you'll lose money in strategy 3, not to mention strategy 2. The question is, how you define what the current trend is? |
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Jun 15 2013, 08:17 AM
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Jun 15 2013, 08:18 AM
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Jun 15 2013, 08:23 AM
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Jun 15 2013, 08:44 AM
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Jun 15 2013, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 15 2013, 08:15 AM) My strategies are: Nice 1. In uptrend, I will go Long on Dip 2. In downtrend, I will Short on Rally 3. In sideways market, I'd most probably stay away....if you still want to trade, buy at support sell at resistance. but I will only do it if the sideways movement is wide enough Since our stock market can only buy, so only 1 and 3 can be used. However, for strategy 3, I find it very difficult to implement on our stock market due to tight movement during market consolidation. So most of the time, in order to make money, only strategy 1 will be useful. more often than not, you'll lose money in strategy 3, not to mention strategy 2. The question is, how you define what the current trend is? Thanks for all your sharing. I guess it is a " down" trend . maybe due to less cash available in the markets ( cash withdrawal syndrome ? ) , but kinda soft landing than hard landing because of local funds strong support. Just my view only. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jun 15 2013, 12:24 PM |
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Jun 15 2013, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 15 2013, 08:15 AM) My strategies are: Thanks for your input as always.1. In uptrend, I will go Long on Dip 2. In downtrend, I will Short on Rally 3. In sideways market, I'd most probably stay away....if you still want to trade, buy at support sell at resistance. but I will only do it if the sideways movement is wide enough Since our stock market can only buy, so only 1 and 3 can be used. However, for strategy 3, I find it very difficult to implement on our stock market due to tight movement during market consolidation. So most of the time, in order to make money, only strategy 1 will be useful. more often than not, you'll lose money in strategy 3, not to mention strategy 2. The question is, how you define what the current trend is? In other word, is a yes to both my questions By not using any example, to determine uptrend, i normally use MAs (price above 20/50 MA), breakout from sideways, triangles (during uptrend, descending triangle breakout) and candlesticks. Most of the time, the examples u showed, fit those criterias P.S: will visit your shop if i drop by to KL! |
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Jul 12 2013, 11:21 PM
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fuh yoh, really inactive d eh this thread. let me ask a question here then.
normally for averaging up, the size/lots you use will be same or lower? eg, initial trade enter with 20 lots, when average up, still 20 lots? how do you guys normally manage the risk? |
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Jul 13 2013, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jul 12 2013, 11:21 PM) normally for averaging up, the size/lots you use will be same or lower? eg, initial trade enter with 20 lots, when average up, still 20 lots? how do you guys normally manage the risk? Err.. I think like this hor.. When I average up, I do not want my cost of shares to go up substantially. Entry point must be treated as if you do not own any shares ay all in the stock. |
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