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yhtan
post Nov 20 2013, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 19 2013, 09:51 PM)
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Price surge up and volume lower decreasing, not a good sign sweat.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 19 2013, 09:57 PM)
yhtan TSH Q earnings how?
Please share..... sweat.gif
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TSH Sold their stake in Pontian for consideration of RM195.8mil, making a gain of RM85.3mil

Profit RM82.9mil, if take the out the gain as mention above, it would in loss sweat.gif
Cash flow from operation decreasing compare to previous 2 quarter sweat.gif
Total debts close to RM1bil, 30% of the debts is in USD, disposal of Pontian will lower down its gearing by 20%+-
FFB production increase by 30%+, a good sign thumbup.gif

U look at the chart, i think it does giving the answer u want laugh.gif

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post Nov 20 2013, 06:39 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 19 2013, 11:04 PM)
boon post up AA chart...

make me feel more sad  cry.gif
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I know life, sometimes, is not fair but life should not be sad.
At least, we should try not to let it be sad....

In that sense, why not try cut loss in bad positions earlier? wink.gif
We made the mistake and time to move on.

If not, we could end up in a strategy...
where we win small, small...
and the moment we are in a losing position...
we hold the losers long....

and sometimes, since life not fair all the time, losers do become bigger losers...
money is tied down...
we not only see losers get bigger and we see us missing out on better opportunities...
then we feel more sad.....

Conclusion?
We need to stay happy...

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post Nov 20 2013, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 20 2013, 01:15 AM)
Carlsberg gone case sweat.gif

Looking at its latest financial report, profit drop y-o-y
some more this one alcohol stock, majority local fund won't fund as it is non-syariah compliance, so i can think of the previous surge was because foreign fund keep pushing up. Now they start retreating, not a good sign but i don't know where is the bottom

Just my 2 kupang icon_rolleyes.gif
Another thing...

For them fundie stock...
one needs to cut loss...

Carlsberg high was 17+ recently...
Ok, imagine if one chased half half..
waited for it to correct...
and then assume it's cheap..
cos corrected .... say 1.50...
And bought at 15.50....

Look at it now....
Even if you add in next years divy assumption of 60 sen...
One would still be in a terrible losing positon...

And meanwhile... carlsber not gonna sit still...
it could still go down somemore....

Worst thing one could do ..
is keep averaging down... tongue.gif

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Still got no planters ...... yet. doh.gif

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Look at yesterdays trading...
closed right at the low... shakehead.gif
volume increasing ..... shakehead.gif
Look back.... on the recent up movement...
it could not go pass 37, which means a lower high .... shakehead.gif
and overall pattern..... shakehead.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 06:47 AM

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Price surge up and volume lower decreasing, not a good sign ...

Err... not sure I see what you see... tongue.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 20 2013, 06:46 AM)
Another thing...

For them fundie stock...
one needs to cut loss...

Carlsberg high was 17+ recently...
Ok, imagine if one chased half half..
waited for it to correct...
and then assume it's cheap..
cos corrected .... say 1.50...
And bought at 15.50....

Look at it now....
Even if you add in next years divy assumption of 60 sen...
One would still be in a terrible losing positon...

And meanwhile... carlsber not gonna sit still...
it could still go down somemore....

Worst thing one could do ..
is keep averaging down... tongue.gif

Things that one could learn from Carlsberg downhill roller....

1. Even for fundie stocks, one do need a cut loss plan. Why? You could buy a 'right' stock at a 'terribly wrong' price.
2. Big names does not equate to great investment/trading.
3. Valuation matters. Was it cheap? What was the potential dividend yield?

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post Nov 20 2013, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 20 2013, 07:56 AM)
Things that one could learn from Carlsberg downhill roller....

1. Even for fundie stocks, one do need a cut loss plan. Why? You could buy a 'right' stock at a 'terribly wrong' price.
2. Big names does not equate to great investment/trading.
3. Valuation matters. Was it cheap? What was the potential dividend yield?

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Noted sifu boon icon_rolleyes.gif

As i said, without the support of EPF, TH, PNB etc.
This stock very hard to rebound in a short time sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 20 2013, 06:39 AM)
Conclusion?
We need to stay happy...
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morning boon,
yes...mistake of not cutting sad.gif

by the way, i have this 80 units of a stock left that i couldn't sell. they were bonus issues.
how do i sell them since jupiter platform doesnt let me key in less than 1 lot (100 units) for a transaction? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 20 2013, 09:52 AM)
morning boon,
yes...mistake of not cutting sad.gif

by the way, i have this 80 units of a stock left that i couldn't sell. they were bonus issues.
how do i sell them since jupiter platform doesnt let me key in less than 1 lot (100 units) for a transaction?  rclxub.gif
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Under Kenanga platform (last time, the software, ie ECM Money (now transferred to KenMoney) and Jupiter exacty same). on sell button itself, is there an arrow pointing down?

If there is, click on the arrow itself (ie the right part of the sell button), there is an option to sell odd lots.

If no see, call remiser and ask them to do it for you.
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boon, platform confirm don't have. (so lauya wan)
called them to sell...
thank you!!!
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post Nov 20 2013, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 19 2013, 11:04 PM)
boon post up AA chart...

make me feel more sad  cry.gif
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My sifu WB though me early early never buy things with wings... forever no free cash flow 1... tongue.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Nov 20 2013, 10:06 AM)
boon, platform confirm don't have. (so lauya wan)
called them to sell...
thank you!!!
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Surely must have odd lots trading mah.. rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 10:12 AM

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jupiter don't have. the customer service staff confirmed it
how silly right...
in times of urgency then how..
call already, until now sale still pending mad.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 10:23 AM

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My WB .... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 20 2013, 10:23 AM)
My WB ....  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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If 90 sen then how?

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post Nov 20 2013, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 20 2013, 10:30 AM)
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If 90 sen then how?

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Then ... bye.gif mega_shok.gif ...

Every 1 sen increase..oppurtunity lost few hundred RM... doh.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 20 2013, 10:31 AM)
Then ...  bye.gif  mega_shok.gif ...

Every 1 sen increase..potential lost RM 300... doh.gif
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Never mind la...

Ah Lian will give you back all the loving. tongue.gif


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post Nov 20 2013, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 20 2013, 10:33 AM)
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Never mind la...

Ah Lian will give you back all the loving. tongue.gif
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Ah lian still going strong de.... hmm.gif

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i wonder which is more painful:

scenario 1 - sell already but share price keeps rising

scenario 2 - didn't sell and share price keeps dropping and profit along with it
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post Nov 20 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 20 2013, 10:34 AM)
Ah lian slow down already de.... hmm.gif
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How you consider slow down already...
514 wo....

Keke..
What you expect Ah Lian to do .... ?
Fly car to 580?
Or 650?

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