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iOnicStorm
post Apr 28 2013, 10:53 PM

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Hi everybody! smile.gif

I've been playing around with my TL-MR3420 v2.1 with OpenWRT for a few months already. I'm trying to make an "ultimate download machine" without using my main PC with this little machine - BitTorrent, aria2, eMule/aMule, or MLDonkey...

Did anybody here trying this sort of thing?

QUOTE(enrell @ Apr 28 2013, 08:31 PM)
i was trying to flash stock firmware via putty following the instructions on openwrt wiki.

flash failed though something about something cannot be erased.

then i surf as per normal, when suddenly router cut off, with the leds blinking.
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I believe you've bricked it. See this post:
QUOTE(xopal @ 2013-01-01 21:25:02)
... I would like to inform you guys do not trying TFTP into this router a stock firmware which have the words "boot" or you'll be sorry.
If this is the case, then you may need a serial console cable to debrick it (if the uboot partition is still working).

Else, you may need to send back to manufacturer (for warranty), asking them to flash for u. Or asking around if anybody have a flash programmer to flash the chip with a working firmware.

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post Apr 29 2013, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(enrell @ Apr 28 2013, 11:25 PM)
wah piang..sian lei like dat..lol...

haiz....

if send back agent, must pay or not since basically its user's fault smile.gif
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No worry, debricking isn't difficult. First, check that if OpenWRT safe mode is still working:

1. Turn off then on.
2. Wait until the System LED lit up (2nd from left) and flashing slowly.
3. If System LED start blinking slowly already, quickly press & release the reset button at the back.
4. If System LED blinking fast.... Congratulations! OpenWRT safe mode could be working!
5. Next, plug in LAN cable from computer to WAN port (blue one) on your TL-MR3420 v2.1
6. Manually set IP of LAN port on your computer to 192.168.1.2
7. Start command prompt on your Windows machine, type: ping 192.168.1.1

If you get something like: Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=63
Then telnet to it & proceed to upload & flash the correct firmware.

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post Apr 29 2013, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Apr 29 2013, 07:30 AM)
QUOTE(iOnicStorm @ Apr 28 2013, 10:53 PM)

I've been playing around with my TL-MR3420 v2.1 with OpenWRT for a few months already. I'm trying to make an "ultimate download machine" without using my main PC with this little machine - BitTorrent, aria2, eMule/aMule, or MLDonkey...
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This is interesting man. All i knoe is that Asus RT N-16 is capable of doing it by default FW, but MR3420 with 8MB of flash memory possible ?
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Space limitation can be easily overcome with Rootfs on External Storage (extroot). The main constraint I came across now isn't with storage space, but with the limited RAM soldered onboard... planning on upgrading it to 64 MB... icon_idea.gif thumbup.gif Ahhh... my soldering skill unsure.gif
QUOTE(digilife @ Apr 29 2013, 07:30 AM)
Have you tried on a 8MB flash memory TL-WR1043ND yet ?
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This is a little capable machine, although a bit old, but is well supported by OpenWRT and Gargoyle firmware.
Check this out: OpenWRT Built for TP-Link WR1043ND
QUOTE(digilife @ Apr 29 2013, 07:30 AM)
But these TP link routers only have one usb port , how to plug in usb modem and external HDD at one shot ?
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By adding USB hubs (USB 2.0), you can do more with OpenWRT. For e.g:
1. Wireless surveiliance camera
2. USB bluetooth
3. More USB WiFi adapters, connecting to some other AP's (station mode) and acting as an AP at the same time, WDS, etc ...and... aircrack-ng brows.gif
4. USB audio - play mp3 music wirelessly! See this youtube video
5. Many other uses, as long as there's OpenWRT driver support for the hardware!

PS: Theoretically USB 2.0 can support up to 128 devices connected at once, with hubs! nod.gif

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post Apr 29 2013, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Apr 29 2013, 07:35 PM)
I believe you would need an external enabled powered hub, I just bought an External powered hub, it was fine when i used direct plug in to pc's usb port and supply a 1A external power for the hub with the modem connected. But it wont work when i connect the hub with the modem to my MR3420  doh.gif
Yes, if you use some power/current hungry devices such as USB 3G modem... and no, if you don't (e.g. flash drive + usb bluetooth).

Getting things done under Linux (i.e OpenWRT) isn't as straightforward as it is on Microsoft Windows. It needs more works and reading. It's not that hard if you're willing to learn. And it's quite rewarding if you do so.

I believe you're using ROOter firmware (Huntsman?). And I think this firmware may "assume" user to have only *ONE* USB port and *NOT* using an external hub, so the 3G modem can only exist on USB 1-1 location. When you plug the modem into a port on the external hub, the address change (maybe USB 2-1 or something). The scripts on the firmware failed to recognize this and making you think that the hub isn't working, but in fact it's recognized by the kernel.

How do we know that? Use PuTTY or whatever SSH/telnet software to log into your router, and check with the command:
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dmesg | more

Or (Check before & after pluging in your devices)
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cat /proc/bus/usb/devices

Or even better (if you've enough space):
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opkg update
opkg install usbutils
lsusb

Solution? Use other firmware & do the customization on your own.

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post May 1 2013, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(DoomGuard @ Apr 30 2013, 06:16 PM)
i dunno where to download although i searched all the link. please guide me and sorry i am newbie. =(

can you provide the specified link so that i can just click and download the firmware? thanks
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OpenWRT.org provides only bare minimal firmware images which are really meant for advanced users to customize their own systems. It's not newbies friendly. It comes by default without LuCI web-interface, and USB 3G modems not working by default. You must know what you really want and capable of customizing it to cater to your needs.

Newbies should start with other properly configured firmware images, such as OpenWRT Attitude Adjustment 12.09-rc1 from openwrt-id.org, or ROOter firmware (which is for 3G/4G internet)

PS: All firmwares mentioned have some bugs. Use at your own risk! Gather enough information or asking around before flashing!!

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post May 1 2013, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(DoomGuard @ May 1 2013, 12:15 AM)
so AA not for v2 mr3420? aww. thanks
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Yes, there's no official support for TL-MR3420 v2.x from OpenWRT Attitude Adjustment 12.09 final yet! sad.gif

I'm now using an unofficial build. So far, I've found only 3 working images, other than the OpenWRT trunk snapshot (which is buggy, I can't get the USB working yet rclxub.gif )

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post May 2 2013, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(hurricane21 @ May 2 2013, 09:25 PM)
there are something wrong for the bandwidth monitor on huntsman 04-30 hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Wahroonga Farm @ May 2 2013, 06:54 AM)
Note: There is a little bug with usage calculation in excess of 1Gb
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biggrin.gif Interesting...

May I know what U use for monitoring bandwidth? I mean the lower-right floating icons, just below "Save" button (on MS Windows?). Thanks in advance.

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post May 3 2013, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(hurricane21 @ May 3 2013, 12:56 AM)
Too bad got bug  sad.gif
BTW its a chinese software similiar to tuneup utilities but i just need the bandwidth monitor so just leave the rest alone smile.gif
HERE is the link if you know chinese smile.gif
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OK thanks. Sorry for OT.

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post May 3 2013, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(Xefron @ May 3 2013, 11:14 AM)
can this router support Yes 4G(WiMax) with any open source software?
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- EDITED -

Already been discussed in V1 thread.

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post Jun 16 2013, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(ioi84 @ Jun 13 2013, 11:15 PM)
Hi sifus.
I'm a new user of this interesting router. (MR3420 v2 + E398)
So, I need help from sifus here. notworthy.gif
Is it normal after I flashed to latest Huntsman, my router will only got 27% space left?
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ROOter firmware packs everything in the 4MB flash memory so that users need no extra hard works in order to use high speed 3G/4G internet out-of-the-box. Or, you can flash the vanilla OpenWRT image, which left users with over 1MB+ space on the JFFS2 partition, but require some hard works on the users' side, in order to get it working. Your choice. smile.gif


QUOTE(ioi84 @ Jun 14 2013, 03:16 PM)
Hi.
I'm using latest Huntsman and noticed that under Software, free space reduced from time to time without changing any setting.

What's the problem?
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QUOTE(ioi84 @ Jun 14 2013, 04:07 PM)
FYI, I didn't touch any advance setting or modified anything yet (n00b user) tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ioi84 @ Jun 14 2013, 09:36 PM)
After shutting down router for a while (after on for 2 days), looks like free space increase back to default.
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Nice observation!

I think this could be due to how wear leveling, journaling and compression in actions on the JFFS2 file system, where OpenWRT Linux writes its configuration data on (/etc/config).

The Flash Memory used on the router is a kind of Memory Technology Device (MTD), which is a totally different beasts than the traditional magnetic storage we're familiar with. It has limited write cycles (usually a few thousand to 10,000+ writes per block). It requires special file system support in order to use it efficiently, and also to extend it's working life-span.

When users "save" their "settings", configuration data is written to the JFFS2 partition, where "old" data is deleted, and "new" data is written to different blocks. The "deleted" blocks are not actually deleted but being marked as "invalid". That's why users will see a decrease in space over time, due to wear leveling and journaling. But after a reboot, the space is claimed back, where some "recycling" mechanism kicks in.

I'm no Linux guru though. This is just my hypothesis based on my understanding of information on the Internet. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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post Jul 2 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(paull98 @ Jun 30 2013, 12:20 PM)
Hi guys, planning to buy this wifi router to replace my old junk.
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TP-Link is good for average users for it's price, but by no means the best. If you want the best, and can afford it, go for IEEE 802.11AC routers if possible, for that's the future... wink.gif

QUOTE(paull98 @ Jun 30 2013, 12:20 PM)
Was thinking to use the 3G data from my android phone instead of getting the dongle and subscribe a new broadband connection. Can I connect my phone to its USB and utilise the Internet sharing from the android platform?
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Yes, it's achievable. I did that with my Nokia Symbian phone. For Android, refer here: The USB Port: An Overview, and then usb.tethering.

But, why the hassle? As your Android alone can do that already without a router! Just install an app to turn it into a mobile wireless hotspot. Search with these keywords: "android wireless hotspot", "Android SoftAP", "wireless access point android", etc.

PS: Though, in either case, your phone will run hot, I meant VERY HOT after running for just a few minutes. And the battery can only "tahan" for a few hours of continuous usage, after which it requires a recharge. Or, you can charge it while using it at once... and so, your phone will get hotter even more! This is not good for your phone for long term usage...

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post Jul 6 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(khairilyazit @ Jul 4 2013, 10:00 AM)
AC standard is not the future.. the future is an uncertain for wireless networking.. new standards are being developed all the time... if u go N, better N all the way.. no use if router is AC but device still G..

PLus, N is bang for buck rite now...
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Yes, 802.11AC is still in its "draft" standard. Better wait until it goes "final" next year for better compatibility in the future.

For now, 802.11n is good for most users for its price-to-performance-ratio.

As for older devices, new standards' always have backward-compatibility. So, it's not a problem if a G is connected to an AC device. Just that it's stuck at max. 54 Mbps and has no use for those new features (but at least you get better range & Rx sensitivity on 802.11AC devices becoz' of MIMO, i.e. wider coverage), but it's still working, albeit the old way.
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(khairilyazit @ Jul 4 2013, 10:15 AM)
just how many phones using AC for wireless?
some latest are using N, but only single channel and 20mhz...
rarely see a phone with 2x2 or 3x3 N, +40mhz channel..
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802.11n devices can have up to 4T4R MIMO and achieve max. 900 Mbps (2.4 GHz + 5.8 GHz concurrently). Whereas 802.11AC can have up to EIGHT antenna and aggregate capacity of 6.77 Gbit/s (see Wikipedia for details)... Making even gigabit ethernet pale in comparison.

Current middle-to-high-end Androids mostly equipped with dual-band WiFi (2.4 GHz + 5.8 GHz), and if your routers can support them, this may put them to good use. And not to mention new devices are coming...

802.11AC routers could suit users with extra bucks to spend and demanding "future-proof", with no worry of "upgrade" for at least 3-5 years to come... cool2.gif

Though, it's recommended to wait for the 802.11AC standard goes final next year.

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post Jul 6 2013, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(butetzzz @ Jul 4 2013, 10:20 AM)
i bet mr3420 v3 will have ac.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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TP-Link has just come up with a new 802.11AC router in it's products line-up, it's called Archer C7.

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post Jul 7 2013, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(khairilyazit @ Jul 6 2013, 12:31 PM)
do u know that actually the 5GHz have less range?
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It's true that 5 GHz band has less penetration power, but many people are eyeing it's benefit of being less crowded over 2.4 GHz band, meaning less interference, especially to folks living in dense urban area.

Interference may cause a turtle-crawling connection speed, or even worst, frequent disconnection...

QUOTE(khairilyazit @ Jul 6 2013, 12:31 PM)
802.11n standards list its approximate range.. 802.11AC doesn't, everything is still speculation..

read this..ZDNet Article

even 802.11G or 802.11N doesn't give max throughput all the time... 802.11AC certainly will not replace ur GigE link..

wireless connection  have lots of overhead..
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Alright, conclusion: 802.11ac isn't yet a mature product, don't buy yet...

For now, just drool over the future possibilities... icon_rolleyes.gif Peace...

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post Jul 9 2013, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jul 7 2013, 08:57 PM)
hi there, may i know is there a way for one to track the data usage using either the stock firmware or other firmware? as I notice that the stock firmware will reset the data usage every time you restart the router. any help i appreciated. :-)
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It's been discussed in previous post:
QUOTE(maxcheam @ Jun 30 2013, 07:34 AM)
QUOTE(yvliew @ Jun 29 2013, 11:44 AM)
can MR3420 monitor the data usage? The problem is in status, if i reset my modem, the data resets too.
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If you're using ROOter Hunstman version, it has the Bandwidth Monitoring feature. I'm using it to track my monthly data usage. wink.gif
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http://www.ofmodemsandmen.com/index.html

http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/router_openwrt

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post Jul 10 2013, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(azim61 @ Jul 8 2013, 06:45 PM)
does huntsman support share printer over wireless network using usb connected to the mr3420?
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Simple answer: no. As Huntsman / ROOter is a heavily customized version of OpenWRT with the purpose of getting the best speed out of a 3G/4G connection, a print server is not directly related to the objective. Unless you're into compiling your own ROOter firmware...

Though, this could still be accomplished using a vanilla OpenWRT image (Attitude Adjustment v12.09), with self-customization. No need compilation, just install any required packages and configure. A LuCI app (web-interface) is available. Tutorials / guides / documentation are available on OpenWRT.org and also on the net. Consult your favorite search engine with keywords such as "openwrt print server" for further information, if you're interested.

OpenWRT / Linux is all about having fun with customization and D.I.Y.

Alternatively, if you don't want spending time on this, consider buying some ready made products, by forking out a bit more. TP-Link has dedicated print server devices, so do other vendors. Also, Asus made some pretty nice routers with USB port(s), coming with print server function with app they provided, which is very easy for end users - just download & install. (The cheapest Asus router with USB port I found on Lelong is RT-N13U, RM 159)

... is the discussion off-topic? blink.gif
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post Jul 10 2013, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(arif48 @ Jul 9 2013, 09:41 PM)
hi everyone. wanna ask something. why did my broadband got slow down when i plugged it into mr3420 v2. but the speed got really fast if i plug it to my computer. it boggles my mind. have been using 2 different sim card and it is still the same. it's like the router capped my speed really bad. btw i'm using original firmware with d-link dwm-156. when i tried to use openwrt. it doesn't detect my broadband modem.
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D-Link DWM-156 is not yet in the supported list of modem on ROOter firmware.
Maybe try other modem which is in the list? smile.gif
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post Jul 14 2013, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(paull98 @ Jun 30 2013, 12:20 PM)
Hi guys, planning to buy this wifi router to replace my old junk. Was thinking to use the 3G data from my android phone instead of getting the dongle and subscribe a new broadband connection. Can I connect my phone to its USB and utilise the Internet sharing from the android platform?
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My bad... Just found out that ROOter firmware support Android USB tethering out of the box.
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post Jul 14 2013, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(arif48 @ Jul 10 2013, 09:01 PM)
when i'm connected with my pc the speed reached 1++kbps but when the modem is connected to the router the speed drop till 2/3 kbps.
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MR3420 could have generated some serious RF interference to 3G signal causing the connection speed drops to a crawl. That's becoz' MR3420 (v1 or v2) have no shielding inside.

My observation is: after turning the router on, I found that my (analogue) TV signal / picture quality of some channels (that require a booster) get distorted apparently (white snow, blurring...). But after turning the router off, it's good again... That mean the router could possibly producing some high frequency interference signal when in operation.

This is a MR3420 V1 circuit board, no metal shielding:
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For comparison, this is a TP-Link WR1043ND board with a metal shielding on the RF module:
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The metal shield works as a Faraday cage to shield the RF module from outside interference, and also prevent the RF signal from getting out (without the antenna).

That's it. We get what we paid for!

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