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dhui
post Jan 7 2013, 12:07 PM

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"We have relaxed the indirect bumping rules so you can post "PM replied", "thanks" etc in response to a query or complement on your thread. While implementing this, we have changed the bumping code so that only replies from your customers will bump your thread. Your own replies will not bump your thread; you must use the "Bump" button in order to bump." by wKkaY

only replies from your customers will bump your thread
- This one remains the same as the old bumping system.

Your own replies will not bump your thread; you must use the "Bump" button in order to bump
- This one also remains the same as the old bumping system. (Except own post/replies won't bump the thread)

we have changed the bumping code
Purpose: To avoid indirect bumping by own posts/replies.
Action taken: New bumping features were implemented.


The only weakness for sellers:
New System: The lining up (based on last post) confused sellers whether we have bumped the thread.
(Solution by Lowyat Team: Add "Bump Button" and last bumped period)

Old System: The lining up (based on last post & last bump) benefits sellers whether we have already bumped the thread & whether there is a new reply. (For me, a perfect system or at least better than new implementation.)

Back to the purpose of the new bumping features' implementation, which is to prevent indirect bump by own post/replies, why don't:
Remain all the old bumping features but only have a code change on "No bump when own posting/replies". What I have seen here all things were remained unchanged (though the way of execution has changed) except own replies will not bump the thread, by changing this sole one is enough to achieve the entire purpose of this new features.

My 2 cents worth feedbacks. laugh.gif

This post has been edited by dhui: Jan 7 2013, 12:12 PM
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post Jan 8 2013, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jan 7 2013, 06:33 PM)
If "thread starter's post won't bump own thread" is coded without changing anything else, a new time inconsistency is introduced.

Let's look at this timeline if we do that:
1:00PM - wKkaY posts a reply to dhui's thread. Last post = 1:00PM, Last poster = wKkaY
5:00PM - dhui posts a reply to wKkaY on dhui's thread. Last post = 1:00PM, Last poster = dhui

It will look weird in the topic index that someone replied at 1:00PM, but when you enter the topic, the actual last reply you see was made at 5:00PM.

The current system does this:
1:00PM - wKkaY posts a reply to dhui's thread. Last post = 1:00PM, Last poster = wKkaY
5:00PM - dhui posts a reply to wKkaY on dhui's thread. Last post = 5:00PM, Last poster = dhui.

I wrote the old bump system in 2006 and introduced the first inconsistency where "Last post time" doesn't really mean last post time. This time, I intend to code it the proper way instead of introducing a second time inconsistency. This means that instead of overloading the "last post time" with different meanings, the time of bump and time of last post must be kept and shown separately.

The benefit of doing it this way is that if it's a really terrible idea, I can always change the templates to show last bump time instead of last post time smile.gif But we will see.
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It's a lot better now after adjustment. I understand now that's why the last post and bumping times need to be separated. Another suggestion. Personally think that perhaps the template of showing the "last post" and "last bump" can be changed.

The template of showing the "date of reply" is making some confuse sometimes (or maybe I still can't coupe with the new system yet) and it looks like messy on the page with all different date on the thread. Personally prefer the old system which showed the "time of bump" which I feel is better and it looks more tidy and not confusing.

The system is nice now after the adjustment but a feedback and suggestion to change the showing template so that the first line can show the latest date of post/bump like the old system which I can see most users (Etc RedDevil32 as a surfer] here would prefer for easier access, less confusing and most importantly look more tidy and systematic/ professional:

For the forum list:
New Post
Today: 8.00am
Last post by: dhui

New bump
Today: 8.00am (Bumped)
4 January 2013
Last post by: dhui

For the search result list
New Post
Today, 8.00 am
Last post by: dhui
Last bumped: 8 hours ago

New bump
Today, 8.00 am (Bumped)
4 January 2013 - 4.00pm
Last post by: dhui
Last bumped: 1 second ago

The first line showing the latest post and bump would make it looks and feel more systematic, professional while easier access/ user friendly. I am not sure with coding in this way would be problematic or not since I am not a programmer so just can give some opinion and feedbacks on the template as a forumer/trader perspective. smile.gif

Addon: The template showing "date of last post" gives me feeling that the thread has been abandoned for long times ago especially if there is no new post for long time. It makes the forum looks like being abandoned or not updated at all seconds like previous system. Worry especially for new user who first surf Lowyat forum would feel the forum is not updated to the latest.

This post has been edited by dhui: Jan 8 2013, 08:37 AM
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post Jan 21 2013, 07:59 PM

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How come Bump Button in our topic list gone missing!? I like it blush.gif

Now become harder to see if the threads can be bumped or not. Suggest to restore it back? rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by dhui: Jan 21 2013, 08:01 PM
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post Jan 21 2013, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jan 21 2013, 09:11 PM)
Sorry that was a mistake, I accidentally removed it while fixing the search feature sorting. I have also made the bump feature direct you back to your previous screen smile.gif
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Cool! Thanks a bunch! It can be used now rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by dhui: Jan 21 2013, 10:05 PM
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post Jan 22 2013, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Jan 22 2013, 02:27 AM)
When you bump a topic, other topics you have in the same subforum will be de-bumped by 30 minutes. This is to prevent the front page from being dominated by one seller's topics.
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Just to inform the page is still remaining in the same page after bump. smile.gif

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