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 Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL Official Thread, 5", 4core, 2GBram, 13mp, LTE, waterproof

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post Jan 18 2013, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 18 2013, 03:37 AM)
64bit arm n new power management  laugh.gif
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Bro, I was lurking around here, and I think there have been some factual errors around, but I feel compelled to say something about this statement.

There is no 64bit ARM for your phone yet, and even if you swapped to whatever latest kernel, you will NOT get any 64-bitness out of your 32bit hardware.

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post Jan 18 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Jan 18 2013, 09:50 AM)
this phone got wifi charging?
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Wireless charging - no.
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post Jan 18 2013, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 18 2013, 02:38 PM)
xperia z hardware don't not support the new 64bit implementation only

but it does support the power management
n multi-rom,  i hope tat atlease they will used it lar

bcauz after tis we will sell only very little whn we do multi-rom  laugh.gif
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ts, I would be very happy if you can enlighten me which current phone model (from any manufacturer) has an official kernel that supports multi-boot if that is what you mean.

update: I see you have responded that it is dual boot. I would still appreciate your response to my question.

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post Jan 18 2013, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 10 2013, 02:42 PM)
bcauz samsung is misleading every1 in their marketing
i just bcom very kinky recently bcauz my friend buy a note 2, 2 days ago
instead he should get a new computer 4 his final year multimedia project
just bcauz of samsung's ads, i bcom very angry  vmad.gif

now he is asking ppl 2 lend him computer shocking.gif
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Man, I wonder why you get kinky when your friend buys a Samsung whistling.gif

I couldn't resist the remarks that others have made about your postings so I decide to vet through your stuff. Entertaining I must say, although rather tough to comprehend due to your highly truncated style.

QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 18 2013, 03:06 AM)
oh i tot still 3.08 version, i'm using motley's kernel laugh.gif
latest linux is 3.7 still  sad.gif

faster reach 3.7  drool.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 18 2013, 02:53 PM)
kernel control the voltage n processing power on different case,
whn to provide more power whn not to
so in newer version, the power controlling improves,
does not need a supported 64bit arm hardware to do so

yup dual boot manner

last sentance is typo, see little to no problem  laugh.gif
hate auto correct whn i do gesture, cannot type broken eng properly  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 18 2013, 03:03 PM)
i'm not talking abt official kernel
if u c most of the kernel development r based on official kernel

that mean 3rd party kernel can enable the support of multi-rom  thumbup.gif
like motley http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.p...5&postcount=395

those dev cannot develop a new kernel version to work with the device
bcauz they don't know the hardware specific stuff  sad.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 18 2013, 03:40 PM)
multi rom, sry typo
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So TS, are you confused about Multi-rom and Multi/Dual-Boot?
You clearly stated for "them" ie Sony to release a kernel that supports multi-rom. Then you replied that it is 3rd party kernels that will support multi/dual-boot.

Multi/Dual booting is available for Samsung and HTC. Multi-rom, i don't know what this means, but I conjecture it can be the use of 1 kernel across the flashing of different ROMs since the kernel is separate from the UI and app bits of the rom.

I wonder if you are speaking from the correct orifice.


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post Jan 18 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Noobi3 @ Jan 18 2013, 04:23 PM)
Multi roms makes thing easier for users n developers . Like Nexus 7 , there is 3G and non 3G version , so developers have to make 2 different kernels that support each . Inexperienced users or worst , lazy to read users will end up flashing the wrong version if not careful . With multi roms , there's only 1 kernel that works with both version . Also u have 4.1.2 and 4.2.1 and both requires different kernel . With multi rom supported , it works for both . That's for Motley's case . IF we look at Siyah's kernel , his multi rom enable users to use his kernel and load AOSP , CM , TW based roms inside . There's is no need 2 flash individual kernels for each rom . It's easier to find a kernel that supports both CM and AOKP as they r much related .

Multi-boot or dual boot for most case , so far on stock , think only XiaoMi has it for stock phone so far . U can keep 2 roms in the phone , selecting which to use upon boot-up . for Xiaomi's case , it has to be another MIUI based rom as well since it's kernel is only for MIUI . For custom kernel , again Siyah has it 2 , keeping 2 different rom in the phone eg CM10 and AOKP . There is another developer who based his work on Siyah and made a triple boot for it .  Not many developers has this features as u need a kernel that can support the different ROM based .

Not only u get confused , I also get confused . He's like asking them to update it to 3.7 as it's referring to Sony when they update their phone to 4.2.1 . If its custom kernel , I'm sure the developers will use it even if it's 4.1.2 if they see fit .
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To add, Note1's Hydracore by g.lewarne was a kickass multi-boot kernel.

I actually read the link dear TS provided. So "MultiROM" is simply the NAME of the kernel that provides Multi-BOOT function.

From multirom post #1
MultiROM is multi-boot solution for Nexus 7.

So as I have often said, people usually can't differentiate what's marketing and what's engineering. doh.gif
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post Jan 19 2013, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Jan 18 2013, 06:56 PM)
Everyone keep misinterpreting you. No one else can understands you, your vast knowledge and your typo.

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 18 2013, 07:11 PM)
if you misunderstood due to my frequent typo then i shall reply with picture
hate 2 waste my time on writing long reply,
but thanks 4 making tis thread hot  thumbup.gif
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/129...creen-longevity

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fx_53_xt I suggest you leave TS to his vice (typos, poor grammar) and come to other more structured and meaningful forums.

TS, this is a DISCUSSION forum for a piece of technology. If you think that putting your point across clearly in writing is a waste of time, then all the best to you.

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post Feb 17 2013, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(ujelly @ Feb 16 2013, 09:36 PM)
explaining such complex photography to retard will make you look like one,

but nice reading, especially the claim of AMOLED surpass LCD in every aspect, such a retard.
I see a few samsungfag is indeed hurt, especially joytest, should just stick to samsung note 2 thread instead
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I'm just wondering why would you say I'm hurt? I am no samsungfag. It's just that currently only Samsung has the features I want most. I do have a thing for active digitizers.

In fact I have every respect for the hardware of the Xperia Z and its semi-openness (expandable cardslot +1, non-removable battery 0) and if Sony (mobile division) can escape the paranoia of the Entertainment division, it will be a good thing.

I never liked Sony coz they always wanted to be like crapple. If they are changing for the better (dev friendly, sensible design), that's a good thing. However, I do think this TS,um, generates a lot of comments whenever he tries to make some "factual" statements.

I myself pointed one very glaring mistake to him.
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post Feb 17 2013, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 17 2013, 09:13 AM)
I like Xperia Z..looks cool and the specs is great.
But i don't like this thread. Too much hate posts. I don't know why ppl love to say bad things about other brand or product. For me..posting about this phone strong points is much better than post about other product weakness. Here, ppl posted bout hate Samsung..bad HTC..stupid iPhone rclxub.gif
It just make me afraid to join this type of Sony community. Try take a peek at other phone official thread. In S2..S3 or Note2 official thread, condemning other phones/product is very rare. They prefer discuss about their own product..and very seldom talk bad things about other product. I use mostly Samsung product but would like to try other product as well. After lurking and reading on this thread, i bought HTC One X+ before upgrade it to Butterfly. Maybe when Xperia Z release here, i might buy one but i don't think i can join this community as i find their mentality quite different to others.
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Very sensible post. notworthy.gif Good observations. I was even quoted as being hurt when all I did was remark about a technical (and grammatical) point. A lot of partisanship here.
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post Feb 17 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Feb 17 2013, 11:28 AM)
I stopped reading right there.
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You must know that those are undisputable facts !!!! whistling.gif
TS has said so !!!
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post Feb 17 2013, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(playxboxwii @ Feb 17 2013, 03:11 PM)
Im using android samsung note 2 phone now. I have tested sony iphone too. I still prefer iphone overall

From what i see iphone thread and sony is much better . They helped alot last time when i used xplay,arc s while samsung. Most of them just ignored all our noob question . Most of the reply (pls use search button) wtf they think the search button can search for specific fcking post?? It can only search thread not post and samsung thread is so alive its freaking fast like 20pages per day. They expect us to search?? And all those samsung user only care about custom roms -.- and mod stuff and they also did said bad things bout other phone especially iphone.
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Just my 2 cents. You hate programming and maths (your own words), therefore I suppose you find it hard to form a structured search term, so you can't be arsed to perform a proper search and grep or whatever and review and refine your search. So when others tell you to find your own solution and you know you can't find it, you blame others?

If you were paying attention in NON-programming class, you would have understood in general how IT stuff works, and make an educated guess. Well, samsung users talk about custom roms because we have so many. It's like house renovation. We can renovate once a week, twice a day, or whenever new roms come out.

A little reading of some of Freud's key concepts can be somewhat enlightening.

Oh, and sony does not produce the iphone. And jeff10012003 is correct about the search as well.

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post Feb 17 2013, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ Feb 17 2013, 03:51 PM)
yes..
but i have to disagree one point there
My brother just got a note two

going into the lyn and try to participate can be daunting

i do wish there is a thread for first beginners like what to do with new set, what apps to install
or how/why/when to use custom roms etc

this kind of info was not on the 1st page
so to search can be laborious
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OT for this thread, but I have put some prelim info. And we had to read a lot ourselves as well. If asked politely, help is forthcoming.

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