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post Jun 27 2006, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 27 2006, 05:05 PM)
never had a real basket ball match with pro's but i've had a few friendly matches with friends and we always had cool drinks to drink after each quarter, i also drink cold water while running, no problems here so i dont think its that big of an issue.

unless you're so worn out after each half/quarter that expanding a few calories to warm up water brings you down you shouldnt have any real issues with drinking a cool drink while participating in a sport and if you're that tired already after a quarter/half you probably wont make it through the next quarter/half anyway so it doesnt really matter does it?
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it happen few times already, not tired after the half match yet, drink a glass of cold water, tat's it....cant make it to the final half...

my doctor does advise b4, after sport is better to take warm water, like other said, ur body temp is so high and suddenly pour with cold water. Try pour water on the hot burning metal, see wat happen. smile.gif
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QUOTE(fantagero @ Mar 18 2006, 10:08 PM)
i heard also.... cold water can slow down.. ahem ahemm.....
mati pucuk something like that laa....
ur ahem ahem can up nemore... is that true..  rclxub.gif
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yea,, i heard bout tht too esp tru articles.. cold water can make ur didi weak..
but i luv to drink milk.. i hate to drink warm milk.. no way!! still need cold milk..
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post Jun 27 2006, 05:50 PM

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when you drink the water are you gulping it or sipping it? notice how athletes drink slowly during and after matches.

my physician never adviced against drinking cold liquids after any physical activity and i have never had any issues with it.

alot of doctors advice against it because your body burns calories to warm up the liquid as it passes through your body, after an intense physical activity i can understand why, but it really isnt that big an issue. ask your doctor for a full explanation on it and see what he says, there might be another issue that i dont know of.

another thing... the human body doesnt react to sudden temperature changes like metal does, completely different things. thats like comparing app... durians to oranges.

what sport do you play btw?


QUOTE(creative_fla @ Jun 27 2006, 05:47 PM)
yea,, i heard bout tht too esp tru articles.. cold water can make ur didi weak..
but i luv to drink milk..  i hate to drink warm milk.. no way!! still need cold milk..
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if you're going for cold milk why not go all the way and get a milk shake... ice cream and milk, toss in a few bananas and a couple of melted dark chocolate cubes and you got a choco banana milkshake mmmmmm.

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post Jun 27 2006, 07:53 PM

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me too love cold water///
think no harm done if drink in moderation...

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post Jun 28 2006, 12:33 AM

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I can't believe i'm still hearing a discussion about cold water. I'm sorry but.....

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post Jun 28 2006, 12:59 AM

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I bath using normal water only, cold ice water only whenever I feel like washing my face. laugh.gif tongue.gif

Washing your face using cold ice water is good. thumbup.gif , whenever I go Genting, i will definitely wash my face there a few times. cool.gif
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 28 2006, 12:53 AM)
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QUOTE(fantagero @ Mar 18 2006, 09:04 PM)
ehmm.. i'm asking coz i think i'm addicted to cold water... huuhh i always drink cold water straight from the freezer.. biggrin.gif everytime...
riten now.. i'm trying to slow it down....
plus.. i never get cough..... i dunno why.... i've drinking cold water bout since spm... huhuuhuhuhh

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Been drinking cold water since i was 12yrs old...nothing happened to me though..biggrin.gif

QUOTE(LanEvoX @ Jun 27 2006, 04:58 PM)
try drink cold icy water during the half time of football or basketball match....i bet u cant  continue the second half.....u'll feel damn weak after that
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Can't continue?? Do you know that even proffesional footballers drank cold water during or after the games..based on my friends experienced arr..

I also managed to finish 90 minutes of football with drinking icy water...but that last time arr cry.gif cry.gif

QUOTE(zeist @ Jun 28 2006, 12:59 AM)
I bath using normal water only, cold ice water only whenever I feel like washing my face.  laugh.gif  tongue.gif

Washing your face using cold ice water is good.  thumbup.gif , whenever I go Genting, i will definitely wash my face there a few times.  cool.gif
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Try to go and take your bath in Kundasang Sabah...surely you will freeze like hell tongue.gif


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drink alot cold water is not good. Wait untill u get older, you will know what the effect. But bath with cold water is good for body. yeahh!
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pour cold water on your car engine after a long day of driving or probably on your disk brake...it shows
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QUOTE(silllver @ Jun 28 2006, 02:22 AM)
drink alot cold water is not good. Wait untill u get older, you will know what the effect. But bath with cold water is good for body. yeahh!
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I have to disagree.

Grandfather drinks cold water (stount, beer, whisky, whatever) all the time.
Morning cold, afternoon cold, night cold, after wake up, cold, anytime, cold.

He's 78, no problemo, cept that he smokes and his lungs are gonna look black like soot and I'll probabbly keep his lungs and frighten (BOO!!!!) my children on the potential harms of smoking.

Late-grandma drank cold water all the time. People said she'll kena those creaky bones and all that hoohah, nope, she died of stroke at a strong 72. Love that old woman.

Ronnie Coleman, drinks his fluids icy cold after his workout.

F1 racers, if you look at their bottles, the water is cold. Condensation on the walls of the bottle.

I hardly think cold water's gonna affect you. Eskimos drink cold water ( i shud suppose), don't see them dying like flies after a elephant fart party.
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This cold water diet method is just theoretical only. its just using basic physics. Simply put if you drink ice cold water, unless you pee ice cold water also, your body must be heating it up. To do that it has to raise body temp and thats by burning calories. How many calories is debatable. Additionally, if you presumably live in hot weather country ambient temp in environment will mean you dont have the same effect of someone in cold country drinking ice water as their bodies have to counter environmental and physiological temperature (technically they burn more calories than in hot weather)

But in any case, drinking ice water brings no harm, only joy if you like it.

Only harm may be to your teeth enamel which can be shocked by ice water or anything you put in your mouth that is so cold.


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QUOTE(LYFfan @ Jun 28 2006, 08:43 AM)
This cold water diet method is just theoretical only. its just using basic physics. Simply put if you drink ice cold water, unless you pee ice cold water also, your body must be heating it up. To do that it has to raise body temp and thats by burning calories. How many calories is debatable. Additionally, if you presumably live in hot weather country ambient temp in environment will mean you dont have the same effect of someone in cold country drinking ice water as their bodies have to counter environmental and physiological temperature (technically they burn more calories than in hot weather)

But in any case, drinking ice water brings no harm, only joy if you like it.

Only harm may be to your teeth enamel which can be shocked by ice water or anything you put in your mouth that is so cold.
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Well said. I don't know where these people get their stories of cold water shit from. I'm well over old wives Asian grandmama stories. Sheesh...
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post Jun 30 2006, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 28 2006, 10:27 AM)
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Well said. I don't know where these people get their stories of cold water shit from. I'm well over old wives Asian grandmama stories. Sheesh...
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Good question and I think revealing of human psyche. Generally i think people wanna have one single thing to blame for whatever their condition is, weightgain lah, some old age pantanglah, weight loss lah, mati pucuk lah...senang what, if can just blame cold water and cut it out of your life. As if so easy lah... Like we humans are some single cell organism or something that don;t live in complex systems...
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for the love of cookies cakes and rice, stop comparing the human body with brake discs or steel rods or some crap like that. THE HUMAN BODY IS NOT MADE OF METAL OR CARBON FIBER.

you people going "poor ice water on your car engine after running it at 5000rpms for 1 hour", ok, i did - no issues. good quality cars are made to withstand such "shocks", the engine temp never goes high enough to begin molecular change, these arent f1 cars were talking about where the breaks reach the temp of the sun when breaking. now i tested it on the human body, i put my hand in 65'C water for 5 minutes after which i put my hand in a bucket of ice water, nothing happened appart from getting a cold hand.

ffs people, logic, its fundemental.

yes i spelled brake wrong, who cares.

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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Jun 30 2006, 11:16 AM)
for the love of cookies cakes and rice, stop comparing the human body with brake discs or steel rods or some crap like that. THE HUMAN BODY IS NOT MADE OF METAL OR CARBON FIBER.

you people going "poor ice water on your car engine after running it at 5000rpms for 1 hour", ok, i did - no issues. good quality cars are made to withstand such "shocks", the engine temp never goes high enough to begin molecular change, these arent f1 cars were talking about where the breaks reach the temp of the sun when breaking. now i tested it on the human body, i put my hand in 65'C water for 5 minutes after which i put my hand in a bucket of ice water, nothing happened appart from getting a cold hand.

ffs people, logic, its fundemental.

yes i spelled brake wrong, who cares.
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LOL! Dude, common sense aint so common you know. biggrin.gif
BTW, have ya tried to do that hand in water thing on your sleeping buddies b4? Makes them lose control and pee in their sleep apparently. Wonder if it works on women same as men...?
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it's common practice for sprinters to soak in ice cold water for 15 minutes 4 times a week too to recuperate their central nervous system. but the thread was mentioning about the intake of cold water. so it's silly to come up with pour cold water on engine, pour cold water on metal or pour cold water on anything argument to sum up why drinking cold water is bad.

but then again i agree drinking cold water halfway during a workout weakens me. warm water stimulates and makes me alert.

p.s. Chinese singseh told me drinking ice cold water gives you eyebags
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QUOTE(LYFfan @ Jun 30 2006, 11:22 AM)
LOL! Dude, common sense aint so common you know.  biggrin.gif
BTW, have ya tried to do that hand in  water thing on your sleeping buddies b4? Makes them lose control and pee in their sleep apparently. Wonder if it works on women same as men...?
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IT DOES? gotta try it out on somoene. ph34r.gif
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going to try it on a friend later today, he sleeps alot in the afternoon, maybe this'll help him remember why he should be more aware of his surroundings. let you know if he pees himself rclxms.gif

the eyebags thing... err yeah... no it doesnt give you eyebags. i drink cold drinks pretty much exclusively everyday... no eyebags? maybe it only happens to people who believe it, by means of psychological effect. rclxms.gif



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