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TSsingchaii
post Mar 17 2006, 08:29 PM, updated 20y ago

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I would like to ask something and some opinion here.

I jz get 4 credit on my spm and pass on Malay And english.

I interested on Mass Com for Graphic Designer. I taking that course at Tarc college. And my problem here now is My drawing not that good, izit still can qualified on study Graphic Designer? Izit will waste time for that Graphic Designer course which i not very goo din drawing?
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post Mar 17 2006, 08:39 PM

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drawing no good = waste time for graphic designer , same as Physics no good = waste time for Rocket scientist.
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post Mar 17 2006, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(loki @ Mar 17 2006, 08:39 PM)
drawing no good = waste time for graphic designer , same as Physics no good = waste time for Rocket scientist.
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Mean i shouldn't take graphic design?
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post Mar 17 2006, 10:11 PM

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knowing how to draw is only a bonus.
passion is what you need to study arts
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post Mar 17 2006, 11:11 PM

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hai hai
last week i go to an education fair to do some research on graphic design and there got a PJCAD ppl told me like this :" if u can't draw u can use computer to draw".
as i know the GD course in the 1st year is training ppl how to draw, matching colour, using computer to draw...... some basic things like that loh happy.gif
so i think if u got the heart to study GD u can improve ur drawing skill in the 1st year
may be u are good in using computer to draw leh:lol:
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post Mar 17 2006, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 17 2006, 10:11 PM)
knowing how to draw is only a bonus.
passion is what you need to study arts
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if you don't have the skills and talent, your passion will deteriorate in no time.
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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 17 2006, 10:11 PM)
knowing how to draw is only a bonus.
passion is what you need to study arts
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Then my art is not really good mean i should not take this course?

QUOTE(versus @ Mar 17 2006, 11:11 PM)
hai hai
last week i go to an education fair to do some research on graphic design and there got a PJCAD ppl told me like this :" if u can't draw u can use computer to draw".
as i know the GD course in the 1st year is training ppl how to draw, matching colour, using computer to draw...... some basic things like that loh happy.gif
so i think if u got the heart to study GD u can improve ur drawing skill in the 1st year
may be u are good in using computer to draw leh:lol:
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That why i think here is, since i canot enough qualified to take Multimedia Design, So i take Graphic design. I have told by a person in Tarc college today that study graphic design can use computer to draw. can use computer to design. But after i see the student art works at tarc college, i feel my art really can't fight with them. My handword drawing not really very good.

So Since my art drawing is not good so izit i should take other course? Any have any course that using computer like Multimedia design? I only get 4 credits for my spm.
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post Mar 18 2006, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 17 2006, 11:51 PM)
Then my art is not really good mean i should not take this course?
That why i think here is, since i canot enough qualified to take Multimedia Design, So i take Graphic design. I have told by a person in Tarc college today that study graphic design can use computer to draw. can use computer to design. But after i see the student art works at tarc college, i feel my art really can't fight with them. My handword drawing not really very good.

So Since my art drawing is not good so izit i should take other course? Any have any course that using computer like Multimedia design? I only get 4 credits for my spm.
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so now what u want to study??? GD leh or MD??? wink.gif
i think u should decide it urself

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QUOTE(versus @ Mar 18 2006, 12:25 AM)
so now what u want to study??? GD leh or MD??? wink.gif
i think u should decide it urself
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That why i not very sure which 1 wan. I going to submit form which it deadline on thursday. I wan study multimedia design but not enough qualification. Then i ask for mass com for graphic designer then the lecturer i guess told me that 2 course is same. Only GD more on handwork and MD more to computer. But now is i wan to confirm that izit GD can use computer to draw? I scare when study and doing assignment use hand work to draw then sure i fail it.
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post Mar 18 2006, 07:10 AM

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Practise makes perfect ?
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post Mar 18 2006, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(loki @ Mar 17 2006, 08:39 PM)
drawing no good = waste time for graphic designer , same as Physics no good = waste time for Rocket scientist.
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drawing no good = waste time for Illustrator, visualizer or fashion desginer, NOT graphic designer. GD nowadays mostly and highly dependable on computers. What GD need is skill and creativity in bringing out ideas and concepts.

QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ Mar 17 2006, 11:15 PM)
if you don't have the skills and talent, your passion will deteriorate in no time.
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Skills and talent could be polished from time to time and if you have deep interest in what you're aiming at, the passion will never burn out

QUOTE(jdreamer @ Mar 18 2006, 07:10 AM)
Practise makes perfect ?
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post Mar 18 2006, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(providence @ Mar 18 2006, 09:23 AM)
drawing no good = waste time for Illustrator, visualizer or fashion desginer, NOT graphic designer. GD nowadays mostly and highly dependable on computers. What GD need is skill and creativity in bringing out ideas and concepts.
Skills and talent could be polished from time to time and if you have deep interest in what you're aiming at, the passion will never burn out
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Finally got peoples who say good thing.. thumbup.gif I already have confident to take on Graphic Design. Thank everyone who give me opinion. Thankz u all alot.
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post Mar 18 2006, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 18 2006, 10:08 AM)
Finally got peoples who say good thing..  thumbup.gif  I already have confident to take on Graphic Design. Thank everyone who give me opinion. Thankz u all alot.
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Good luck. smile.gif
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post Mar 18 2006, 11:18 AM

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Not to burst anyones bubble, but drawing skills are indeed needed for GD. Please dont jump to conclusions that GD only use the PC to draw. Before we hit on screen alot of times we have to approve our ideas by rought sketches to proper sketches that are coloured. So drawing is indeed a plus skill, after all in the future if your boss ask you to sketch something quickly are you going to head over to the PC and show him a demo that would take 15 - 20 mins while a rough sketch takes 1 - 2 minutes?

Graphic Designers are people who communicate through our design and through our ideas, if you cannot do the simple thing of sketching 1 idea to show to a client or your teacher how can they approve it for you to hit on screen.

Drawing skills is indeed needed for GD and is very relevant, you should take up drawing classes (and by that I dont mean the manga drawing skills that are useless in GD), or buy books. But I would advise you to go for drawing classes as the teacher will be able to guide you.

have a read at my blog about GD and for GD at-point-zero@blogspot.com

Cheers.

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post Mar 18 2006, 11:22 AM

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here is just a short process of what graphic student usually should do.

design brief -> understand the brief and find solutions for the problem -> brainstorm -> research -> thumbnail sketches -> rough sketches -> approval of sketches and concept and theme -> hit on screen -> recording of design process -> presentation.
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Then how about Mass Com advertising? Izit need drawing skill too?
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post Mar 18 2006, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(providence @ Mar 18 2006, 09:23 AM)
drawing no good = waste time for Illustrator, visualizer or fashion desginer, NOT graphic designer. GD nowadays mostly and highly dependable on computers. What GD need is skill and creativity in bringing out ideas and concepts.
Skills and talent could be polished from time to time and if you have deep interest in what you're aiming at, the passion will never burn out
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Second that. Why would u be afraid if you're lack in drawing skills? As someone else said, practise makes perfect smile.gif Unless if you're doing character designs..then maybe it'd be a problem. But as always, there's storyboard artist/visualizer artists.If you think you're creative and willing to learn, why not ?

(a lil drawing skill is needed, I meant not just stick man figures la tongue.gif.You'll have to sketch tho for your concept/ideas)..hope you'll understand what I meant. good luck =)
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Maybe you can give us reasons why you like mass com and Graphic Design other than that you have a mere interest in it.

Mass com advertising is inclusive of alot of writing on copywriting, etc .. do you really have an interest in this?

Drawing skill is a big plus for graphic design and I would strongly recommend you learn some drawing skills. I've have friends who had no drawing skills or few drawing skills who suffer when working because they are unable to draw sketches well and in any agency you always start with pen on paper then on screen.

Why are you so scared of drawing? We arent all talented illustrators but at least can illustrate and draw out our ideas which is why you need it. Somore nowadays graphic designers dont just do prints, we are able to multi-task.

You might have intelligent conceptual work but who can see how you visualise it if you cannot even draw it roughly on a paper?
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QUOTE(faerie @ Mar 18 2006, 01:12 PM)
Second that. Why would u be afraid if you're lack in drawing skills? As someone else said, practise makes perfect smile.gif Unless if you're doing character designs..then maybe it'd be a problem. But as always, there's storyboard artist/visualizer artists.If you think you're creative and willing to learn, why not ?

(a lil drawing skill is needed, I meant not just stick man figures la tongue.gif.You'll have to sketch tho for your concept/ideas)..hope you'll understand what I meant. good luck =)
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I understandd it. Thank you.

QUOTE(nada- @ Mar 18 2006, 06:08 PM)
Maybe you can give us reasons why you like mass com and Graphic Design other than that you have a mere interest in it.

Mass com advertising is inclusive of alot of writing on copywriting, etc .. do you really have an interest in this?

Drawing skill is a big plus for graphic design and I would strongly recommend you learn some drawing skills. I've have friends who had no drawing skills or few drawing skills who suffer when working because they are unable to draw sketches well and in any agency you always start with pen on paper then on screen.

Why are you so scared of drawing? We arent all talented illustrators but at least can illustrate and draw out our ideas which is why you need it. Somore nowadays graphic designers dont just do prints, we are able to multi-task.

You might have intelligent conceptual work but who can see how you visualise it if you cannot even draw it roughly on a paper?
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I hoose for Mass Com cause the skop for finding job is more bigger nowday. Beside Mass com, i interested on multimedia design, business and marketing. BUt i not qualfied on it and it has no foundation for that course. So no choice for me and choose for mass com. And now after i listen all of it, I guess i choose Mass Com for broadcast communication. Choosing Broadcast communication izit good?

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No offence but if your picking Mass Communication because the job scope is larger that doesnt gurantee you anything as well. From what I've read so far you are slightly confused about this courses here and like everyone has already said do more extensive research. What you select to study will be what you will be working as on the rest of your life.

And besides you shouldnt choose a mass communication for the mere reason of a larger job scope. Also your interest is all over the place, you need to have a focus, already you like Graphic Design, Multimedia, Mass Communication and Business and Marketing. Which are you really passionate about?

Graphic Design programe alone has the following:

-Design Consultants
-Advertising Designers
-Web Designers
-Graphic Designers
-DTP Artist
-2D Animators
-Cartoonist
-Art Director
-Publication & Book Designers
-Packaging Designers
-Set & Display Designers
-Illustrators
-Photographers
-Typographers

Whatever you select as your course I would really advise in being very honest to yourself, in knowing your own capacity and what you want to do.

Good luck in your choice.



 

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