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Sociology Have you ever published part of your thesis?, before graduation?

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post Dec 30 2012, 05:26 PM, updated 13y ago

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Have anyone of you ever published something which is related to your thesis before graduation?

Let's say if you are carrying a small scale project using some variables similar to your PhD thesis and you manage to publish it prior to the viva voce examination.

Now, can you still claim you have a contribution from your PhD thesis if you yourself have published it prior to Viva Voce?
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post Dec 30 2012, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Dec 30 2012, 05:26 PM)
Have anyone of you ever published something which is related to your thesis before graduation?

Let's say if you are carrying a small scale project using some variables similar to your PhD thesis and you manage to publish it prior to the viva voce examination.

Now, can you still claim you have a contribution from your PhD thesis if you yourself have published it prior to Viva Voce?
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Not me. But I have seen many such cases. So I think it wouldn't matter.
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post Dec 30 2012, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Dec 30 2012, 05:26 PM)
Have anyone of you ever published something which is related to your thesis before graduation?

Let's say if you are carrying a small scale project using some variables similar to your PhD thesis and you manage to publish it prior to the viva voce examination.

Now, can you still claim you have a contribution from your PhD thesis if you yourself have published it prior to Viva Voce?
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Nowadays, publications is a compulsory requirement for Viva Voce.
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post Dec 31 2012, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Dec 30 2012, 05:26 PM)
Have anyone of you ever published something which is related to your thesis before graduation?

Let's say if you are carrying a small scale project using some variables similar to your PhD thesis and you manage to publish it prior to the viva voce examination.

Now, can you still claim you have a contribution from your PhD thesis if you yourself have published it prior to Viva Voce?
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QUOTE(kepalapening @ Dec 30 2012, 08:04 PM)
Nowadays, publications is a compulsory requirement for Viva Voce.
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Yeah, its the case for the Biology field I'm in..
I've already published 2 papers 1st, then only write thesis (Plagiarising from own papers XD) hmm.gif
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post Jan 2 2013, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Dec 31 2012, 10:24 PM)
Yeah, its the case for the Biology field I'm in..
I've already published 2 papers 1st, then only write thesis (Plagiarising from own papers XD) hmm.gif
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May I know whether you are pursuing the traditional PhD route or the PhD by publication route? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Jan 2 2013, 12:36 AM)
May I know whether you are pursuing the traditional PhD route or the PhD by publication route?  hmm.gif
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Err... what do you mean "traditional" bro? laugh.gif
Traditional as in need to submit thesis?

UM actually allows students to omit the submission of thesis if they publish 3 ISI (Q1/Q2) articles iinm. I've achieved that requirement, but since my scholarship will give extra incentives for writing thesis, why not write? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 2 2013, 10:10 AM)
Err... what do you mean "traditional" bro?  laugh.gif
Traditional as in need to submit thesis?

UM actually allows students to omit the submission of thesis if they publish 3 ISI (Q1/Q2) articles iinm. I've achieved that requirement, but since my scholarship will give extra incentives for writing thesis, why not write?  tongue.gif
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I see. That's the one.

3 publications in lieu of a traditional thesis. (The PhD by publication route).
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post Jan 15 2013, 10:55 PM

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Current trend has changed to publication route (3 ISI papers compulsary)
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Jan 15 2013, 10:55 PM)
Current trend has changed to publication route (3 ISI papers compulsary)
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The reason why is UM is now fighting to improve its world ranking, one of the main criteria is the publication of ISI papers. That is why.
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 2 2013, 10:10 AM)
Err... what do you mean "traditional" bro?  laugh.gif
Traditional as in need to submit thesis?

UM actually allows students to omit the submission of thesis if they publish 3 ISI (Q1/Q2) articles iinm. I've achieved that requirement, but since my scholarship will give extra incentives for writing thesis, why not write?  tongue.gif
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It is not easy to publish 3 ISI. Are u studying Phd in Business and Management?
How long it took you to complete 3 ISI? U think it is easy to publish 3 ISI or do a final thesis?
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Jan 15 2013, 10:55 PM)
Current trend has changed to publication route (3 ISI papers compulsary)
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 15 2013, 11:06 PM)
The reason why is UM is now fighting to improve its world ranking, one of the main criteria is the publication of ISI papers. That is why.
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True that, and the standard can only become higher and higher rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 15 2013, 11:07 PM)
It is not easy to publish 3 ISI. Are u studying Phd in Business and Management?
How long it took you to complete 3 ISI? U think it is easy to publish 3 ISI or do a final thesis?
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Unfortunately no, I'm doing phD in Biotechnology laugh.gif
Published 4 ISI (3Q1, 1Q2) within 2 years, hope I can get 2-3 more before I leave tongue.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 17 2013, 07:28 PM)
Unfortunately no, I'm doing phD in Biotechnology laugh.gif
Published 4 ISI (3Q1, 1Q2) within 2 years, hope I can get 2-3 more before I leave tongue.gif
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R u one of the lucky Bright Spark Scholar with full scholarship?
or i should say UM is lucky to have u for able to publish 4 ISI in 2 years?
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 17 2013, 11:17 PM)
R u one of the lucky Bright Spark Scholar with full scholarship?
or i should say UM is lucky to have u for able to publish 4 ISI in 2 years?
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Yeah, under BrightSpark laugh.gif How you know? You also from UM? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
More like I'm lucky to publish 4 in 2 years tongue.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 18 2013, 11:27 AM)
Yeah, under BrightSpark laugh.gif How you know? You also from UM?  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
More like I'm lucky to publish 4 in 2 years  tongue.gif
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Yes, i just completed my Master degree with UM. So i knew abt Bright Spark.
My friends told me for Science field it is easier to publish ISI, but not for social economics related subjects.

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 19 2013, 11:00 PM)
Yes, i just completed my Master degree with UM. So i knew abt Bright Spark.
My friends told me for Science field it is easier to publish ISI, but not for social economics related subjects.
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I see, grats grats!! Graduating this Oct I guess? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
Science, depends on the field... Bio and medicine pretty competitive... Engineering should be easier hmm.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 19 2013, 11:49 PM)
I see, grats grats!! Graduating this Oct I guess?  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
Science, depends on the field... Bio and medicine pretty competitive... Engineering should be easier  hmm.gif
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Yes convo coming soon.
In general, social science is tougher than science thesis.
Congrat on your publication.
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 19 2013, 11:49 PM)
Science, depends on the field... Bio and medicine pretty competitive... Engineering should be easier  hmm.gif
QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 21 2013, 07:49 PM)
In general, social science is tougher than science thesis.
Interestingly concluded! The social sciences (anthropology, archaeology, criminology, economics, history, linguistics, law, communication studies, political science, international relations, sociology, human geography, and psychology) have a rich tradition, as shown by its various authors and theories found throughout written history. But, are the social sciences really- and merely- sciences?

The subject matter of social sciences is mysterious. But social science is also integrated into our systems of education, medicine, justice, politics, economics, etc.—and this gives it great power, hence great responsibility. Power must be exercised with humility, in the face of the mystery of being human.

For this mystery, though proven by physical science, is not even expressible in the language of physics or chemistry. Physical science examines the things of this world in terms of their physical parameters, but meaning, the collection, transformation, storage, communication, etc., of information, is not captured in physical parameters.
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Jan 22 2013, 12:51 AM)
Interestingly concluded! The social sciences (anthropology, archaeology, criminology, economics, history, linguistics, law, communication studies, political science, international relations, sociology, human geography, and psychology) have a rich tradition, as shown by its various authors and theories found throughout written history. But, are the social sciences really- and merely- sciences?

The subject matter of social sciences is mysterious. But social science is also integrated into our systems of education, medicine, justice, politics, economics, etc.—and this gives it great power, hence great responsibility. Power must be exercised with humility, in the face of the mystery of being human.

For this mystery, though proven by physical science, is not even expressible in the language of physics or chemistry. Physical science examines the things of this world in terms of their physical parameters, but meaning, the collection, transformation, storage, communication, etc., of information, is not captured in physical parameters.
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Your explanation are very technical. I like!!
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post Jan 26 2013, 10:08 PM

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haha, there's no way to judge which field is harder to get article published. But speaking from personal experience, I'm yet to receive a recognition from Tier1/2 journal reviewers to accept my paper, yet.

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