me wanna ask if we got the offer for Petronas schhola and being accepted,

then we grad...
are we surely will work for them??? i mean.. do we need to find a job after grad.. or they [petronas] provide job for us???

thanks

It depends on Petronas themselves. They may not bond after your graduated and in this case, you need to repay their scholarship.

My friend is just graduated from UTP and still pending for Petronas decision either to bond him or not by offering a position in Petronas. He's still unemployed for more 2 months.

You can get the scholarship surely you can read and hopefully understand the contract.

so, that mean, our future still not so bright eventhough got schola from petronas???

ehmm......

aiyark..
so u expect just get the scolar then your future is bright eh? The important thing is study well when u get there... The scholar is just put you one leg towards a better future. It all depend AFTER you get in there. Not just utp.. everywhere also same

no laaa i mean... after grad dengan cemerlangnya....

coz nowaday so many unemployed rite after they grad...that mean dey all dont study hard during they in U???

so, if we grad wif flying colour, we can easliy get job???
in utp or elsewhere ??

if u did well academically but don't know how to work, no point right?

If u get the scholarship, just go ahead and study.
If Petronas need u in the future, they will hire you.
If not, u may need to pay back sum amount of money depend on ur academic result.

As David83 said, I also heard from a senior.
E&E engineers are saturated in Petronas now......where most of the seniors with mechanical already secured a job.

fantagero i bet you apply for PETRONAS scholarship.
mind telling me the courses you opted for?

i hoping for Eng... but after scrutinizing my results..
damn.. only eligible to apply bisnes and it...
so.. i jus apply that laa...
huhuuhuh..
wut bout market value for that courses???

dun forget that petronas has closed its IT division and outsource their IT needs

really... whoaa.. that sound bad news for me... as i apply for it.. huhuh
only qualified for that
regret coz dont study hard for add and chem

ee field is saturated in petronas ar? better save the scholar money from now on:sweat:
come on AMD.. pick me up.. hehe

i applied for UTP oso...
but since every1's applying 4 it..
im sure it'll b damn hard to even get chosen...
wont it???
lol...
i wonder how many chinese like me really gets chosen to b awarded with all this scholarships...
..summore JPA...haha...
UTP oso hard to get now dreaming of JPA....
lol

don't really care about it though....
but then UTP still accepting ICT students during Jan 2006 intake.....

Scud_eSpade, no worry.
who knows vacancy available when u graduate?

octopuss, its seem kinda hard to apply UTP with SPM result but most of the foundation students with scholarship.
U try consult Scid_eSpade.

octopuss, if u are really good.
U can try apply JPA, Yayasan Proton, and bla bla bla Yayasan once u enrolled into any universities in Malaysia.

ooohhhh...i oledi applied for JPA....but it kinda sounds unreachable..wit so many ppl getting strait A's...haha..
nvm...anyway,thanks...

yeah man wif 4k students getting A lurus.... so many challenggers..
huhuuhuhuh...
ehmm.. so that mean.. hav to study hard if wanna get a job wif petronas...

u not even offer a place in UTP to study. not to say the scholarship.
Is it too early to think of u can find a job or not?

Just study hard will do.
Even if u offered with petronas scholarship, u may not compulsory to work with them.

nice. i applied for engineering courses and put sistem maklumat perniagaan as my third choice, UTP programme that is. not smart enough to pass oversea's sponsorship qualification.

octopuss, if you do believe you've your own quality, you still stand a chance. JPA wont be bias, there's plenty of chinese sponsored by JPA studying overseas. good luck then.

This post has been edited by ememes: Mar 18 2006, 09:27 PM

emems.. how's ur result??? huhuh i kantoi my chem.. so cant apply for ENG...
yeah....... but for jpa... huhuh many students use their parent's cable duh~~ huhuhh

ememes... mcm pernah ku nampak nick nih di forum lain.. tp forum mana ekk

haha....my quality ar????currently i share my qualities with other 4K students....u say got quality a not leh????
lol...
the scholars oni got 2K...application 11K...haha....later the JPA pon pengsan....


hehe...
pernah nampak???
mungkin i nside ur mimpi kot....
haha....

my result? so-so la. my lowest grade is 4B for Biology.
how about you?

my friend got the petronas scholarship and took mufy in monash kl before proceeding to University of Sydney to continue her degree in chemical engineering. as per what she has told me, she'll have to work with petronas for dunno 7 or 10 yrs(cant remember), or she can opt out by paying back the full amount to petronas

lucky ur fren got OC offer.. as for me.. just qualify for IT and bussnies.. huhuuhh
maybe for the OC student.. their chance to be worked wif peronas.. brighter

1 sponsored year tradeable to 2 working years with Petronas.

actually wen will we noe if we're chosen ar???i mean for the interview....around wat date??
april ar????

according to the panduan permohonan, the date will be announced later soon after the application closed.
just keep on checking the esu website.

oooOOOOoOOO...
means still have to wait summroe 2/3 weeks...
haih....
sien...


neways..tahnks

Let's keep the one liners to the minimum, and no spams k?

fantagero - For your Q, it depends on whether if Petronas needs staff. It's illogical for them to take in several hundreds graduates every year into their company, right?

Perhaps you should change your mentality. Not being able to work with Petronas is not the end of the world. What's important is getting a degree, and the rest after graduating is really up to you. There's loads of other good companies out there.

hmm.. for utp intake, i think petronas does not offers scholarship (the term they use is "Pinjaman Boleh Ubah"). They will convert it to scholarship if you grad in 1st class honor (2nd class upper you have to pay 10%, and the value you have to pay increases as you grads at lower classes)
For utp programmes (5 years) the amount of loan will reach 100K.
For engineering students, in their final year petronas will conduct an interview to select candidates to fill in vacant position in the company.
the interview itself (conducted by petronas senior managers and above) will determine whether you can enter petronas or not. (the result will be "Recommended" or "Not reccomended")

Not recommended = no job in petronas, pay the loan according to your result

Recommended =
1) Wait for vacancies, serve according to years of sponsorship (1 year sponsor 2 years bonded), no need to pay loan, no deduction in salary to pay loan or
2) if no vancancies, they will release u from the bond, no need to pay loan

but there are cases where "not recommended" are also accepted in though..

sadfully for IT or IS students.. petronas no longer conducted interview for them.. so i can say almost 0% chances to enter petronas unless u have "connection"

As for petronas scholars overseas, the process is also the same but the interview will be conducted by higher level staff (general managers and above) so expect tougher interview..

so if u wanted to join petronas, u will need to know the workforce market by the time you grads.. for now petronas are after those who have Petroleum Engineering and Geologist background...

MISC?? malaysia international shipping coorperation?(correct me if i'm wrong)
abt the deck officer cadet izit?

Hey guys,

I am a Petronas scholar. Going oversea coming July/August/Sept.
Well, Petronas is urging the current EE scholars to change to Petroleum Engineering. Most probably, EE will not get a job later as they have them in excess.

About IT. Petronas does not need any IT as they've outsourced their IT division. They may need a few. Hence, there are no chance for you to go oversea for that. They may still take intake at UTP but not for oversea.

Petronas no longer send students to UK. Now they prefer to send you to Australia and New Zealand. As for Petroleum Engineering and Geologist, USA is a place they set for you. They strongly recommend students to apply for Petroleum Engineering. Well, Petronas may change their policy a day just before you fly. So, whatever they stated in the offer letter or contract, don't bother to take it too serious as they have rights to change anything in the contract as stated in the contract that you sign.

If you study under their scholarship for 1 year, you have to work with them for 2 years. 5 years mean 10 years of working. If they do not take you to work, treat that as a loan. You have to repay. But most of us prefer to repay.However, Petroleum Engineer's salary starts at RM6000 per month. Working 2 weeks a month.

Think about it...

my kai kor say Petronas is lack of engineers, if you go apply scholarship, most probably u can get it

hahahah that is quite sad situation for ICT and BIS student in UTP... or petronas scholar..

i m a ICT undergraduates in UTP..
Most of the post here bout petronas scholar is true...

jz wan to add additional info for ICT petronas scholar...

i heard from senior says tat..
after u grad from UTP.. there will be a camp like thingy for ICT and BIS student where petronas will conduct interview after the camp n heard 1/6 grad will selected for petronas and the rest release..

this is an unofficial info for UTP ICT grad...

p/s: for your info lotsa ICT grad here is hoping for release too... working for petronas in with IT background aint help much though.. as for us strive for first class and hope petronas release the bond free of charge....

This post has been edited by SanosukeSagara: Mar 19 2006, 06:52 PM

Do you mean that you may apply for bond release and no need to do any replayment for 1st class graduates? What're the statistic in terms of ratio with 10 as the maximum; i.e. 5 to 10?

david82, what he said is hopefully Petronas released him.
U cannot apply as I know, if u want to release yourself. Pay back the loan

Another question, can I know if a STPM leaver applies to UTP admission and/or Petronas scholarship? I barely can get any relevant information at their site. I have emailed them but no reply ... please help. Thank you.

can stpm will skip foundation and continue degree as usual ...

yep 1st class if petronas release u u no need to pay...

welcoming ppl to enter utp though.. too boring here

My friend told me that UTP is altering the course structure in order to make the first year in UTP degree to be a foundation year in order to allow STPM students to pursue for a degree course in UTP without going through the first year (foundation to be exact). How successful this implementation is? A good question as my friend has graduated and he has no idea at all.

As far as i know. After the graduation, within 6 months time if Petronas call you to work for them, then you have to do so. After 6 months if they never call you, you have the choice of working with other companies. I think you need to pay only 25% of your loan amount back to Petronas (apply to second class upper only!)

The system is quite similar to JPA.

ok... new programme implementation is only started 1 year ago if i m not mistaken..... the result still dunno

STPM/matriculation admission for UTP will be opened around mid-May to end of May.
Now is SPM intake.

If u want those information. I would glad to help. I'm one of them.


About your 2nd post.
UTP changed their programme (engineering to be exact) from 5 years to 1+4 years(just like MMU, UNITEN).
Your friend on the 5 years old syllabus, that's why he has no idea about the 1+4.

What ever information u get in utp.edu.my will be 1+4 years programme information which is foundation + 4 years degree.

For JPA, if they didn't call u up within one year. Then u can go with "bondless"

I want to gather information regarding Chemical Engineering degree course at UTP for a STPM leaver. Besides, I also want to inquire for opportunity to get the Petronas scholarship too. Where can I get the admission and applications? Do I need to do all these online? Please direct me to the specific URL. Thank you.

Chemical eng for STPM? huh?
U study the same as those who did foundation, matriculation.
Check utp.edu.my undergraduate section.

Opportunity for scholarship?
It will be determined by the interviewer during the educamp(if u were selected to attend the educamp and being offered a place in UTP).

As I said, application only available mostly on mid/end of May.
And yes, u need to do it online.(I guess u did the same when u enter MMU, right? its same everywhere. check the website everyday.)

specific URL?
UTP only has a website.


And from ur question about application, etc. I want to ask u, have u really access www.utp.edu.my ?
A lot of answer can be found there and there is the telephone number of UTP.

This post has been edited by allenultra: Mar 20 2006, 05:06 PM

for petronas scholarship enter http://esuonline.petronas.com.my.

Do I need to repeat myself? That URL is only providing information for SPM leavers? I'm seeking information for a STPM leaver. To put in a better phrase is, can a STPM leaver apply for the scholarship using the STPM result? Or he must apply using SPM result?

if you accept the scholarship and petronas want you to work with them, you will stick with them for long period. For example, if you are a engineering student, study 5 years, you need to work for 10 years. 1 year scholarship evualavent to 2 years working.

OK. I found some information regarding admission using STPM for Chemical Engineering.

Regarding the admission or application to the course, when I clicked the Admission link, the website is only providing information regarding "Opportunities for SPM 2005 candidates". There's not information about general admission; i.e. how to apply and etc.

Regarding the educamp, what's that? Can you give me more description on this? How to be entitled for this camp?

Thank you.

I'm aware of this. Thank you for your concern. Most scholarship works about the same scheme.

This post has been edited by David83: Mar 20 2006, 08:06 PM

i'm sure you can get more info calling them up urself

the general line is 05 368 8000, call during office hours

So, they won't respond to emails? I have sent them an email since last Friday.

Reply email is not the working culture for some petronas's worker hehe..., you better call them directly.

This post has been edited by forrest: Mar 20 2006, 08:21 PM

being an ex-utp student, i think they respond faster thru phone, but they just switched to an automated telephonist system, maybe it'll be quite hard to get thru 2 the ppl that'll answer ur questions

This post has been edited by danial17: Mar 20 2006, 08:23 PM

Check utp.edu.my for the staff list.
Staff list does included staff's phone number.

Rector, ITMS manager replied my email quite fast.....mostly within 2 days.

ehmm.. lotsa informatipon here...
huhuh.. so..
that mean i've to consider other course b4 utp..
huhuh coz i just apply for it... wondering how IT market value....
lot of people say, dont take IT.. huuhuhh
coz low market value....

myresult just 9a, chem c5 add b3.. so not qualified for eng in utp/...

waaa...u get 9A..but how come ur chem c5 de???
u din appeal for recheck ma???
but 9A good good liau lu....

hehehe... fyi, i kinnda stupid at chem.... during my from 4 and 5.. i never passed the chem so.... no point of recheck...
nway.. thanks..

btw, anyone hav opinion for taking IT in utp?? huhuuhh why so many people say it not good?? is it low market value??? susah carik kerja ???

bumpieeeee

fantagero, wassup?
im shorlisted for the educamp, 19-21 april at UTP.

This post has been edited by ememes: Apr 8 2006, 11:43 AM

I heard that my cousins who graduate from UTP that if u work for Petronas, then u no need to pay back for the scholarship... if u decide not to work for Petronas... then u got to pay back for the scholarship... But the best is to work for Petronas coz got many benefits... first of all no need pay back for the schola, then no need to scared no work after graduate, summore they will give u free grand seat to watch F1...

i'm not sure whether i'm qualified to answer this question or not. but earlier this sem, my lecturer asked my class are we afraid that after we graduate, we'll be unemployed. one of my classmates raised his hand. my lecturer asked why and he answered the stats shows. the lecturer that said based on previous batchs, almost 100% utp's ict/bis graduates are employed except 2/3 girls who opted to marry ().
and i had attend several career talks, most of them prefered utp students bcoz we have the longest intership program among uni at m'sia which is 8month. hopefully i answer our q.

yes, one thing that make UTP graduate diff from other U is the internship period. 8 months. but it also depends on u how u make your 8 months internship valuable.

up until now, ICT/BIS graduates (b4 this known as IT/IS) from UTP are highly marketable. but of course u must work smart la during ur undergrad semester. and can communicate well (involved in presentation). then, you dont have to worry about getting job.

IT market still need ppl. u can see a lot of job advert seeking for programmer in .NET, SAP, Java, PHP and others. the thing is now, most of the graduates dont have these skills or they dont really work hard to master these area during univ years, and also lack of confidence in communication (again). so if u really want to make a fortune in IT area, please please please study smart and do hands on jobs. theory and practical knowledge are equally important.

UTP gonna be crowded again very soon.

kuzek07 and pearl_eye, are u still in UTP? just wonder

chow already la allenultra. now successfully working, hehe
but i really miss UTP

owh, juz bumped into this topic. shld say hi to my cenior, pearl_eye. neva knew dat u are here all along. nway, juz lyk she said, as ict/bis student, dun haf to rely on Petronas. work ya a** hard, study as much things u can, get to know good IT companies(Intel, AMD, Oracle and SAP, to name a few), do well in the subjects related to the company (Intel n AMD, OVERCLOCK YA PC HARD!!! aahahah), go for internship in the company, work ya a** hard again, graduate on time, n try to apply at the same company u did ya intern (given dat u njoy ya internship b4).. datz my simple tips..

my counterparts in UiTM, are graduating this yr. me, another year to go. nemind, they don't have SAP and Oracle backed up in their studies. but they do have Cisco and Microsoft. Thus, get to kno ya environment, and make full use of it.