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post Feb 14 2013, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(thesun @ Feb 13 2013, 11:30 PM)
still can use nokia drive+ wat..
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i read somewhere that Nokia drive is only available to non-Nokia windows 8 phone users in the US and Canada at this moment.
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post Feb 14 2013, 12:36 AM

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Talking about Nokia Drive, I just had a good experience with it today. I arrived in Bangkok this afternoon and took a public cab from the airport. The driver had very limited English and he wasn't too sure about the exact location of my hotel. Luckily, I had downloaded Thailand map and Thai language navigation. I made sure to set my hotel location as a favorite under Nokia account before the trip. So it was easy to set it as the destination when i needed to. My Lumia talked Thai to the driver, and brought us to my hotel flawlessly. Thank god for Nokia Drive.
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post Feb 24 2013, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(godhpf @ Feb 24 2013, 12:34 AM)
Ehh, your 920 still with Nokia? I thought yours are fixed after two weeks.

Nokia service are really bad. Even after I have escalated the case, they still take more than a month.
I think we need to make more noise. I'm thinking of writing a second email to complain.
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Maybe you should email their CEO directly... thumbup.gif
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post Feb 25 2013, 08:18 PM

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My wish finally came true. The latest Nokia Here Maps/Drive updates have synchronized the favourites. Now i dun have to start Maps first to get navigation to my favourites. Nice..
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post Feb 26 2013, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Feb 26 2013, 02:11 PM)
is there anyway to determine which country is your set from(mine is an AP set)?
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Go to Settings > extras + info. Look under additional info.
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post Feb 26 2013, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(oszie @ Feb 26 2013, 07:01 PM)
my 920 is a UK set. But since flashed MY portico, now it showing as malaysia set.
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my one also uk set after replace mainboard at nokia care. Waiting for official Portico update.
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post Feb 27 2013, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(godhpf @ Feb 27 2013, 10:41 PM)
LOL evilpuppy and me have sent our lumias to Nokia Care for a very very very long time and have yet to get it back. Both of us have sent the phone for more than a month. It's the sixth week for me.

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Be prepared for endless misery when you send in your Lumia.
I'm so pissed that I'm considering writing to the press & complaining at consumer tribunal.
Please note that this is even after I've written an email to Stephen Elop and escalated it.
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Yeah, 6 weeks is too long already. If they don't have any more spare mainboards, the least they could do is to replace you with a brand new set. But sadly, Nokia is not Apple.
Lucky for me, my Lumia 820 was fixed within a week (mainboard replaced due to mic problem) - most likely because there were plenty of spare mainboards for 820.
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post Feb 28 2013, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(ashwin988 @ Feb 28 2013, 07:09 PM)
yeah... i remember getting like that too.. the thing is when I switch to power saver it lasts decently longer. Once on the power saver, I will just open whatsapp. So thats the only thing that is running using data. Thats what i am doing now and I usually do that when it reaches like 30 percent onwards.
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Few more things u can do, since u type a lot:
- turn off keypad sound.
- turn off keypad haptic feedback.
- switch keypad to normal sensitivity, instead of high.

edited: i think haptic feedback cannot be disabled.

This post has been edited by weim76: Feb 28 2013, 08:18 PM
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post Feb 28 2013, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Feb 28 2013, 10:30 PM)
Did you follow all of the instructions? I've noticed that it takes a long time to recalculate the route if you didn't follow its suggested route(and it fails to find me the route to go back while it works well for Waze).

Another thing is that it seems like the suggested route is a bit longer in terms of distance
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Did you switch on cellular data when using Drive? Many forumers said Drive works better with data switched off.
Also, in the settings, you can specify to go shorter, faster or balanced (whatever that means); toll or without, etc...
So far, I have no real issues with it.

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post Mar 1 2013, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Feb 28 2013, 11:54 PM)
nope. I haven't even bought a sim card for it yet  laugh.gif

how should I say it, there's a road when you can just turn left to reach to the destination faster, but Drive+ shows you the longer way

I guess that I have expected too much from Drive+(imo not comparable with waze)
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Yeah, waze is based on actual road usage of drivers.... it's proven data. You cannot go wrong with it. But u need data to use it, no? I don't think it will re-route you in the middle of a journey without data. With data, it's a great app.

Drive, on the other hand, is the a turn-by-turn navigation tool that you can use offline. Re-routing is also done offline, if you stray from the recommended route. Of course, it's not perfect, especially if you know the destination and its surrounding very well. If that's the case, you wouldn't need Drive at all.
But, rest assured Drive can reliably get you to your destination.... try to play with the settings and route optimization.

I was surprised when I selected shorter route, it took me through the kampung road which I always use instead of the main road. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 1 2013, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Mar 1 2013, 12:29 AM)
For drive, I don't quite like it when I took another route and it is not able to reroute(keep say "rerouting" but still it can't find the route  sweat.gif )

I guess that I need to add my path at here.com coz at one of the roads, there's a road to turn left but it wasn't shown at the gps sweat.gif
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if a road is not present in the gps, then its not yet updated and there's nothing much u can do, but wait for the next update. No wonder u said it couldn't reroute. U will be surprised, some new roads are already updated in Here Maps but not yet updated in Google Maps.
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post Mar 1 2013, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(thesun @ Mar 1 2013, 08:14 AM)
For me,only follow drive instructions when i dont know the route, for example, if i want to go to some apartment in gombak from nilai,

two routes suggest me take plus highway, and one routebsuggest me no higway at all..

but i know i can take mrr2, cheaper mah.. Rm1.3 only..

so, i just drive my car with drive on, but not yet set the destination, it will connect to the gps, but with no turn by turn navi just yet cos i didnt set the destination,

when i reach mrr2, then only i set the destination, normally i already add the location to the favourite..

that way, it will save battery also, u can set the drive+ batt saver to off, and the gps will still connect in the background, i can open drive+ without set destination, and push power button to turn off the screen, when reached mrr2 only i will push power button to turn the screen on, anf set the location..

no point to use navigation at well known road, plus it will only distract u during driving.. Drain unnecessarily batt power and only makes the phone hotter..
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post Mar 1 2013, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Mar 1 2013, 12:56 AM)
No. Its two different stories.

Road not present: There's a road whereby you can to turn left but the it wasn't present at Here maps

Rerouting problem: while I was at Puchong that highway, when I didn't follow the given instructions, it can't reroute me to go to subang  sweat.gif

afaik, nokia's maps has been at the field longer than google right?
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With the rapid development going on in those areas, LRT construction, redirection of traffic, new roads.... that could be the reason for the rerouting failure. I also heard that sometime GPS cannot differentiate between few elevations, for example if you have multiple flyovers over one another, but I am not in KL, so can't comment on that.

It's a fact that Google Maps has more points of interests (POI) than Nokia's.... and it's easier to find a place in Google Maps than Nokia/Here Maps. But in terms of roads availability, I don't find Nokia's to be inferior to Google's. In fact, if you have been to the new Aeon (Jusco) in Melaka, you willl find that the whole road leading to it is missing in Google Maps, but it's complete in Here/Nokia Maps. And this road has been around for at least 2 years. In some locations, Nokia Maps is complete, in others, Google Maps may be more complete.
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post Mar 1 2013, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Mar 1 2013, 12:26 PM)
different people different expectations  tongue.gif  for me, its sub par but I'll try it out more so I won't be biased  laugh.gif
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i think for true offline voice navigation on smartphone, nothing can compare to Drive.. And its free in almost 100 countries.. If i need something better, i will just get a dedicated gps device, like Garmin..
For now, its the best for my needs.. Thumbs up to Nokia.
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post Mar 1 2013, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Mar 1 2013, 05:42 PM)
I wonder if Nokia accepts POIs from their users like how Google Maps incorporates all the input from their users (Panoramio etc etc). If they do that, then the POI numbers will increase really rapidly.
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There is a map creator (beta) feature in here.com; not sure if that allows for inserting POIs. When I click on it, it only allows access to countries whose maps are not available for downloading in Here Maps.
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post Mar 1 2013, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(jackal_x2005 @ Mar 1 2013, 10:00 PM)
just bought Lumia 820 from Nokia Store at Plaza Lowyat. How do I know if I am on Portico? coz the build says 8.0.10211.204 ?
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Yes, that is Portico.. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 5 2013, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(evilpuppy @ Mar 5 2013, 06:34 PM)
yup, they swap the whole mb with new IMEI. encounter another problem is sudden death, cannot power up for 5min and its happen twice today, hopefully no other issue pop out !!!  touch wood 2....
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The good news is you already have Portico, assume.... brows.gif
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post Mar 18 2013, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(qwerty223 @ Mar 18 2013, 08:09 AM)
720 will probably have the Drive beta, not Drive+, hence license is limited to regional map according to the first time use/activating sim card.
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I read somewhere that Lumia 520 will not have Drive+ (global navigation), only Drive (regional navigation), but I am not sure about Lumia 720 until I came across this article:
http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/02/25/...okia-lumia-720/
"The Nokia Lumia 720 excels in the essentials with free global HERE Maps and LiveSight ensuring you will never get lost. HERE Drive for your home country is also included."

It appears that Lumia 720 will have Drive+ (global navigation).

QUOTE(coconutxyz @ Mar 18 2013, 05:12 PM)
is there a any differences between the two? since i rely heavily on gps(road blind tongue.gif ), the nokia drive is important and pois are too cry.gif
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The difference between the two is regional licence may limit you to navigation in Malaysia or ASEAN only. If Lumia 720 indeed has Drive+, then all is fine. You can navigate in Malaysia as well as in almost 100 countries globally. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 19 2013, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(weim76 @ Mar 18 2013, 06:00 PM)
I read somewhere that Lumia 520 will not have Drive+ (global navigation), only Drive (regional navigation), but I am not sure about Lumia 720 until I came across this article:
http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/02/25/...okia-lumia-720/
"The Nokia Lumia 720 excels in the essentials with free global HERE Maps and LiveSight ensuring you will never get lost. HERE Drive for your home country is also included."

It appears that Lumia 720 will have Drive+ (global navigation).
The difference between the two is regional licence may limit you to navigation in Malaysia or ASEAN only. If Lumia 720 indeed has Drive+, then all is fine. You can navigate in Malaysia as well as in almost 100 countries globally.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(qwerty223 @ Mar 19 2013, 08:34 PM)
Well, just a day later, NokConvo post this: 6. With the Nokia Lumia 720, you also get free Maps at home and abroad, plus free turn-by-turn voice-guided navigation with Nokia Drive at home. Also available offline.
http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/02/26/...okia-lumia-720/

So I guess  owners are not all lost after all.
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Ah, I see what you mean. Indeed, global maps may not necessarily mean global 'turn-by-turn navigation' with Drive. In that case, we may only navigate by walking or public transport outside the home country using Maps. Looks like we will have to wait and see when the real thing is launched here.
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post Mar 20 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(evilpuppy @ Mar 20 2013, 11:55 AM)
I do felt that Nokia Drive offline navigation responsiveness very lag.
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I have not used other GPS devices before, so I cannot compare...
That said, I find the GPS lock-in at start-up is very fast - others have said other mobile devices are much slower...
In terms of responsiveness, the only time it shows lagging is during turning or U-turn, where the display is slow to rotate after I have made the turning. Hopefully Nokia will improve on this aspect. Re-routing after a missed turn will take some time too, but I have no reference to compare it to, so cannot comment whether it's slower than others.

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