Dear All,

Here is the video of Puchong Hartamas Guardhouse that was demolished by MPSJ. WTF. Please dont tell me developer cuci tangan? Haiya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V10FsfFEFZ0

Meaning the G&G thingie for Puchong Hartamas was never approved by MPSJ or it's the the guard house not approved ?

I am not so sure myself. but mpsj came, demolished without prior notice. The RA president got upset and called mpsj, teresa kok and kim crest (developer) to explain. after 4 years only mpsj wanna roboh. really wtf. what is the current situation eh? anybody from puchong hartamas?

Wahh. Why MPSJ so free to go to demolish this kind of tolerate thingy? If no approval then settle by money ma, MPSJ, famous for it what.

If Puchong Hartamas now is guardless, then habis lah security. Property price also would not increase much dy.

Ya lor. I am not staying in Puchong Hartamas but I am quite upset too to know this because WTF is the government, police and mpsj doing about safety? mpsj said the guardhouse is too dangerous to be built there because of the sharp turning to guardhouse. yes, it can be dangerous but i sometimes use that road too. it is not that dangerous. come on. now without guardhouse, it will be more dangerous to the residents there.

May be they got complained by those who do not want to pay maintenance fee and the Guard house in the first place does not get enough majority approval from the residence and also never submit for MPSJ approval..

I was upset too. But to say the turning to the guardhouse is too dangerous was just a stupid reason to their act.

It was the road issue and if really turning to guardhouse is dangerous, then should allocate one or two bumps to ease the cars speed. Now, the residents are living more dangerous without guardhouse.

Nonsense MPSJ act. They dont see what is a purpose of a guardhouse and simply demolish it.

Yeah, there are bumps there too. Not that dangerous. Nonsense la MPSJ. Bandar Puteri landslide who want to solve? Then suddenly this happens. BS!

Very likely that's the case but if I am not mistaken the G&G thingie in Puchong Hartamas was there since the developer was selling the houses, it's not an add-on after the houses are developed. Don't tell me the developer never gotten any approval in the first place !

the issue started in 2010

http://puchonghartamas.com/node/96

Likely there are people complaining about it. MPSJ will not be so free one, sure got someone complaining.

http://www.puchonghartamas.com/node/137

It would appear to me someone is dragging their feet on the issue until MPSJ tak boleh tahan then have to act in a drastic manner.

this is an interesting precedent to watch.

there will be more cases like this to come as crime rate rises, more cases of half cooked gng, fng, xng... buyers assume all is good but developers not taking full resposibility, legality/approvals questionable, some people don't pay, etc., etc...

And with inflation the G&G are ever wanting to increase the subscriptions. My place the RA is asking the members to pay more. And I see a whole bunch of guards ( maybe got 10 people ) hired. Ghee .....when security is bad, people want to have their own guards, but won't that will make the police more slack ? By having more guards, increasing subscriptions, is it improving security or making thing worse ?

Security has improved. Definitely. However, it is not due to our police force. So IGP said crime rate reduced = yes. But not thanks to you, IGP Bloody fool. It is the citizens who are taking own initiatives.

This post has been edited by AMINT: Dec 27 2012, 11:41 AM

My fren lives there. He said the developer didnt get approval for guard house . So now settled but have to move it to other place . Now they got temp guard

oh, sad to see this, yeah I suppose got people lodged complaint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=i9z5if...ature=endscreen

this episode

looks like MPSJ act for pengadu
1. who are the pengadu, 1,2,3 or few hundred
2. if 1-2,3 vs the majority that has no objection, is it fair to just act for the minority
3. are those not paying?
4. sick for those want to enjoy the service without paying
5. will we see mroe and more guard house kena tear down, due to 1-2 pengadu ?

i just came back from puchong hartamas. the new guardhouse is made from plywood. haiyo. correct me if i am wrong but there is no difference in terms of location. i really dont understand mpsj and kim crest

That's just the way the law works.

If no prior permission, even if 1 person complain, MXXX is obligated to come and demolish.

Same thing happen to my taman. One guy doesn't want to pay, went complain to MXXX kaw-kaw, and MXXX came.

Lucky they still open to nego (we got cable guy), gave us time to properly apply for permission. But can only block 1/3 of road, and iron bar must always be open, can only lower between 12 - 6 am. Cannot stop people from going in, can ask nicely 'sir where you going' only. Guardhouse must not in any way obstruct flow of traffic, even a bit also cannot.

Good thing from that is developer (big name) then gave promise to built nice guard house.
But until now 2 years aledi nothing yet. No janji.

Moral of the story - get permission and follow T & C. Get the developer to be involved.
Won't be perfect G n G, but better then no G.

This post has been edited by Fazab: Dec 28 2012, 10:51 AM

Majorities' wishes must always be followed and the minorities' wishes must be ignored ?

If that's how it works, then everyone here have to go to study in National school only, and cannot eat chee yuk.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Dec 28 2012, 11:03 AM

what is your point? why drag in education and choice of food

IF

this is about minority's action affecting the majority why spoilt the party?

conceptually wrong, you're enttiled your view

many selfish pple around..

yeah, housing community always follow majority.

For this issue, I suppose the main point it's due to the community is not a strata community, so as long as there're quite a number of people complaint, authority has to take action, or else it's like always rules & regulations but never enforce .. perhaps they should've settled it internally before this

I didn't read the full news, just my 0.2 cents

Education or food or whatever, it is the same thing. You cannot force upon people. Everyone's individual right must be respected. Cannot just follow majority.

It's this same "concept" that people have (as you) about "majority", that's why everyday our country got people making noise.

You think when you eat Chee Yuk you are not affecting the majority meh ?

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Added on December 28, 2012, 11:31 amAnother of that "majority" theory !

Too bad, that's not how MPSJ works.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Dec 28 2012, 11:31 AM