I likey fair girls

tapi dia JAV worh, sudah kotor lu mau jugak?

wah new thread...
i'm far behind....

Japanese? Looks like American to me.
What's her name?

Never too late to TCSS here

I heard somewhere before that the klok klok sounds its actually our drum brake sound... It's normal wo and we can't hear in imported car cos their sound proof damn changgih.. But if u said like metal sounds.. Maybe it's what ckdenion says lo.. Can add in rear strut bar to improve chassis rigidity..

=( i tot only tortoise will turtle

Just drove PE today after a week in my house. I can't identify whether anything improve or not but I just service 30K mileage a couple of weeks ago. As of now, engine is even more muted but that happen since last change of 2nd time Havoline semi. Acceleration this morning is superb, pickup seems stronger. Light no difference....not too much difference compared with my 4 year old Civic. Note that PE is only 1.5 years old and original stock GC are better than Hondas (as mentioned by Eric). Anyhow no regret.....very easy to start in early morning.

50% tint is dark side tint liao at borderline.....70% windscreen is at borderline....+ the original windscreen thickness, all definitely falls below JPJ guideline liao. Anyway I'm using clear VKool 70 all around, front windscreen at 70~71%....sure failed liao with + the original windscreen thickness.

If go for original VKool Elite package, they will use VKool 70 at side but used lower quality for front to hike up the VLT to above 80% garanteeing JPJ compliancy....but heat rejection sharply down.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Dec 31 2012, 10:04 AM

so 2013, what are you guys trying to change/improve for your car?
or some of you going to change a new car?

Price wise, its not expensive, ok. However at 30K, standard minor service INVOLVED only engine oil and oil filter.

ATF supposedly only change at 40K but some very jaga gearbox can change at 30K (optionally, I did not do that tho) but uses only 4liter not 6 liter. However PE manual indicated 5 liters used, so maybe.

Air filter also should only change at 40K (20K interval like ATF) but I changed every 10K too....big difference in performance, so air filter ok, its cheap but question is the air filter original. I know celup wan is cheaper but original also not expensive only RM20~30 ringgit.

Brake fluid should also change at 40K, why change it so early. It uses sucking out only, so at 40K, you should do full brake fluid drain at each tyre pump....need abt 4 liters.

Probably other parts like pads wear and tear is already thin liao, so if necessary change.

So conclusion, price is fair, not expensive BUT the 3 parts mentioned above are supposedly done at 40K major service, not 30K. I don't find it necessary to change brake fluid now and truly drained them only at 40K, air filter change was prefered, ATF truly optional but its good if you got the dough, can wait for 40K.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Dec 31 2012, 09:57 AM

check first page, Common Problem in Persona -> Problem 1.
Fixed also won't be permanent, will come back after a while. My Case.

is there any difference between 4L and 6L?

How should we know since PE maintenance sheet only indicate 5 liter at most. So what happen to the extra 1 liter and question is why 2 different type of ATF is listed, should not mix since both atf addictives are different.

That fella should go and question the workshop regarding this. Even mine is listed only 4L of ATF when changing.

Maybe it was for flushing? . There was extra Dexron-3 ATF that was used for my dad's Perdana. Brought it to the workshop to use it to flush.

For my case they didn't flush, just merely dump the old fluid and pour Nascor 2L x 3 into the gearbox. And upon changing the fan belt & timing belt, top it with ATF fluid and some bumper clips, cost me RM600.

If I go to Proton SC, major service with timing belt change, RM720.

Car felt so much better after belt change and atf fluid, very satisfying. Yet there's another thing to solve which is the fuel fume and a broken fog lamp.

This post has been edited by s7ran9er: Dec 31 2012, 11:05 AM

Century Marathoner DIN55R is it too much for persona or other good brand and model but much more cheaper to change for MF battery for persona?

Fog Light Ori RM 26x/= for 1 Pair. Control Switch RM 14x/= , this is the rough price for the IAFM model Fog lamp.