oh, they still do? that's good.

yes, normally it takes 5 years.

p/s: mowkey, what do u want to ask me about?

i see a sudden surge of interest in this thread.. probably coz the spm leavers just starting their hunt. this thread has a lengthy advice for all and almost complete. it's just that it's all over the place. whatever the requirements, from training school or not, has been stated somewhere in the pages.

just wanna add some spices; malaysia, if not the world, is critically short in heli lae. and the market price for them is rising. im not baiting u off, just to let all know some interesting option.

prince handsome, jaldin is half way right. there's no way u can apply for lwtr without experience. BUT there are cases where miat students able to sit for lwtr exam without working in aviation right after graduated (he did has experience while doing his OJT, even a little). again, why would u need lwtr if u are involved in aviation, right? anyway, at the end, that guy is back in aviation now since his road to lwtr is wide open now.

kamil, u have to work out on your english first. im not saying that your english is bad, but use it! it would be a firm first step.

mowkey, heli use avionics too, u know..haha. avionics lae are lucky coz there no differences from airplane avionics and heli avionics. they just need to be type-rated. unlike airplane airframe lae whom need to be converted to heli airframe AND heli engine lae.

from what i have seen, avionics lae in a heli company is the highest paid lae i've met so far. not to mention the most relax too. envy them. haha. basically, it's all about supply and demand. there are less heli lae around. there are also less avionic lae around. but avionic has a lot more trades that u can add to ur license. eg: radio, electrical, autopilot,etc. unless u stop at single trade, ur pay would be just like most laes. and a company don't need a lot of them coz their work load isn't as much as airframe &engine laes. still, the industry still need more avionics lae as well as other trade lae.

ahaha...im not LAME. not yet. hopefully it's just a matter of time. u can expect lae salary from 4k and above. varied according to number of of types u have n what kind of business the company involved. in heli business, company that serve oil n gas industry get paid better.

when we talk about salary, it always sound bigger than the real thing. u don't get the big paid for free. consider also work load, responsibility, accountability, facilities, benefits, bla2... i have friends who get big pay for working in africa but guarded all the time by army. guess what the army for?

and consider also your journey to be an lae. many veterans said, we are lucky we have training school now locally. we don't become lae just attending the course. the way i see it, training school are producing manpower skilled enough to work in the industry (that is as technician or similar level). just remember this, don't ever consider to stop at this level. at the rate of current training school churning out their students, the industry will be saturated with them. finishing the course, either with cert, dip or degree doesn't make an lae. students still have to go thru dca of malaysia for license. TAME program or equivalent found in most airlines are a program that specifically put up to produce lae for their own use. i think i can safely say, the students/trainees must become an lae or their out for good.

to all, i wanna suggest those with background in aviation to use common terms. there a lot of fresh faces here who are not familiar with some terms or abbreviations. not to mention MCAR, AN, bla2. hopefully we all can share experiences and help each other.

for now, leave the rumors n hype aside. if u interested with miat or any other place, straight go and ask them what they can really offer. i have seen people just drop out of the system or deviated when they listen to rumors.

congrats to mr kabadi
just about the same time i got my rotor license..
there will be another wave of oral exam taken my xMIATs during this ramadan. im sure more will join the club

basically when u apply for rotorcraft license, it's like applying both A&C at the same time. in fact it should be easier coz only need to answer extra 40 questions in MCQ. but, of coz, extra things to cover.. in oral exam, dca evaluate us just like others, just extra rotor specific questions. it shouldn't be a weird thing.. a friend of mine applied for A license, n while waiting for his oral, he submit for C license. he ended up being called for oral for both at the same time last week

kabadi, anytime when u drop by in kerteh.. terengganu is like paradise from air

your opinion just beg me to differ..
with all means, i too will advise any female who aspire to be lae to go for avionics. if u think about OT, u still have mechanic level of thinking.. seriously, how much money will satisfy u? as much as i love my job, i'd rather spend time at home most of the time. AND avionic laes are among the highest paid laes in my company (if not already the highest ). consider this, how many types/approvals an A&C lae could get compared to an avionic lae? yet, this depend on how the company pay the laes..

avionic is going to more important by day, like hirari said. it's already causing daily headache now

RaFale, u sound like 40 years old man, la

u're not coming back with license in ur pocket?

im still new here... a few months. i came here after ditching the same company that malaysia ditched for nuri replacement my rotor license too is still fresh. actually i'm junior to kabadi n rafale.

and NO... i haven't got that salary yet. it's only for certifying laes. even if they have only fixed wing license. very effective poison to make fixed wing laes converted. if u think fixed wing industry need more laes, imagine how desperately rotor craft industry is to use that poison

maryjane,
just a few years ago, there's not a single training school in malaysia, yet we do have engineers. my exboss got his license when he's 21. of course, that's old story. BUT, u can still use the same old road. it's still open despite the emerging trend of attending training school. it's the same requirement that u keep hearing, 4 yrs experience in maintenance and completed work schedule. the tricky part is, now, companies prefer to hire those that had already been trained.

so u see, ur diploma can matter if it can get u in the company. u might need start at the bottom of the chain. u have bigger chance to get hired in smaller general aviation company. once u get in, start studying on your own. find a helpful LAE to be ur sifu n worship him for 4 years n suck his brain out . in that duration, u should be able to climb up to technician level n should be able to collect enough work schedule. then apply for exam. that's the best what u can do. though dca might drag the exam a year or two, but, u completed ur part and fulfill the requirement.

getting apr level 1 might increase ur chance further n it's not that long/expensive. just get hired in the field.

i bet this question came from the QA. obviously, 747 LAE can't release to service a 737. is he capable to service or not depend on your company policy/MOE.

come on.. don't call it toyol la. call it...question bank. sound more professional

that company owns several US registered aircraft, self-explained, right?

i believe askarperang was referring to FAA action to strengthen cockpit door for airlines, one of the security measures post 9/11 attack. too bad i can't found document that instruct this either but if not mistaken FAA enforced this on US registered planes. others probably copied it.

i can see why people keep getting confused in these thread and same questions keep popping up.. these people are bombarded with tsunami of info and jargons half-cooked in bad english (unless these people skip to last page to pop the question). and all of us here want to be an aircraft engineer 20k richer every month

there's no LAME in military coz civil air legislation only applied to civil aviation. so no license needed, tho they have something else in place. not only TUDM has aircraft. navy, army and maritime do fly too. but police falls under civil aviation.

just a point to ponder,

u find the place to train, u find ur own financing, and u have to work for them for 10 years. they got ur training fees, they got cheap trainee labour, and then guranteed lae for 10 years.

wsalam.
1. there're a lot of LAMEs from MAS academy coz they've been running for a long time. possibilty of them running around here is more likely. there are also a lot of other LAME that came from all sort of place including MIAT. Some even did it by themselves (self-trained).

2. although it has been said that this industry don't rely much on academic qualification, they've generally accepting properly trained people and acknowledge them. most company now require minimum diploma for technician level or for entrance for their TAME program. Still, LAME requirements by DCA remains the same with minor adjustments. to be LWTR, u should've completed minimum duration schedule of work. means, u should've been working with an aviation company and they know u are pursuing the license. well, in one company, they might have dangazilion LWTRs that make waiting to get type-rated is like eternity and probably don't care for another LWTR. in other company, they snatch people with LWTR and make them type-rated by the next day if they can. Supply & demand.
Trainee Junior Techinician (TJT) basically produce Jr. Techinician. azameel explained more.

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4. m04,m05?

5. based on my experience, YES.

yep. this thread is nice but its info is all over the place. even the most fired up LAME-to-be would be challenged to read all 77 pages. we should cater for the lazy lucky one that pop in later too. start over with all the info, documents, faqs in 1st page. a proper LAME thread. too long to wait till 2500 posts.

ths thread started out as LAME prospect, the next level of career in aircraft maintenance. but thread evolve towards education, on how to become LAME right after finishing school.

Hiddentrap, u are right. How to become LAME should be in Education Essential. any volunteer?

after the education part is seperated, this thread should go on and concentrate on the job itself.

jazzy, what else lie beyond after license? say im tired of working on aircraft, and have complete collection of snap-on tools , what other position to go after?

what about QA or may be a dca surveyor? any qualifications to be aware of?

hi all,
it'has been a long time... the last post was on 31 dec 2010 and no one was talking about DCAM66 yet?

so, to EASA66 holder, rejoice! also to those degree holders. It's going to interesting to see how things unfolded.