ikanayam... i dont mind for what u said... but what is phailed???
sorry for asking... but i cant seem to find that word even in my e-dictionary....

www.wikipedia.com

u ph4il3d interbutt

Haha.. all giving comments about Turion and centrino,what about celeron M?
Besides no speedstep,less cache,what else?

hmm... maybe people are always loooking for the best bang for their bucks...
so... turion and centrino will be on their eyes all the time.... but u know what... those cheap celeron laptops from acer and compaq really looks nice but heard some ugly rumours about the acer ones.....

and DID u actually USE one?

i've had one celeron-m powered acer lappie. bought for nearly 2 yrs. still running fine. no prob at all. very big screen. batt life is still 80% of the original capacity. no broken hinge.

as said before, celeron-m is a stripped down version of pentium-m

with just 1mb cache (vs 2mb) and no speedstep, which mean power consumption is more. batt life is typically about 2hrs (vs up to 3+ hrs on pentium-m, note the "up to" remark there)

guys, how would i know that a notebook is sonoma? cnet said sonoma have 533mhz FSB, so if i see 533 FSB its sonoma?

all of them have 533FSB but only toshiba is tagged as sonoma and IBM is tagged as centrino?

because im thinking of buying these
Toshiba
Satellite L20-P430 Sonoma

ThinkPad
R51 #1843CA1 Centrino

Toshiba
Satellite L20-P440 Sonoma

As for both acer and compaq,i have heard quite a lot of complains about them from my friends,but as i have not personally tried it,so will not comment much.
As what i heard,acer - lousy after sales service and support,low quality,need extra care

Compaq - electricity leakage

Anyway,besides this two brands for celeron M,whatelse?

i can explain here, but it will hurt my wrist typing out all of it

so, suggest you go to the pinned thread and search sniper's guide to centrino. it's an indepth explanation of what centrino, pentium-m, intel pro wireless, dothan core, banias core, sonoma platform, yonah (dual core) platform is all about.

Copy and Paste laaa..

I think Sonoma is same as centrino.

Dont worry, here's a simple way to find out:

Take a look at the system properties which shows the Windows version and the processor number.

Intel® Pentium® M processor 780 - 2.26GHz|533MHz FSB|2MB Cache (Sonoma)
Intel® Pentium® M processor 770 - 2.13GHz|533MHz FSB|2MB Cache (Sonoma)
Intel® Pentium® M processor 760 - 2.0GHz|533MHz FSB|2MB Cache (Sonoma)
Intel® Pentium® M processor 750 - 1.86GHz|533MHz FSB|2MB Cache (Sonoma)
Intel® Pentium® M processor 740 - 1.73GHz|533MHz FSB|2MB Cache (Sonoma)
Intel® Pentium® M processor 730 - 1.6GHz|533MHz FSB|2MB Cache (Sonoma)

Intel® Pentium® M processor 765 - 2.1GHz|400MHz FSB|2MB Cache (Dothan)
Intel® Pentium® M processor 755 - 2.0GHz|400MHz FSB|2MB Cache (Dothan)
Intel® Pentium® M processor 745 - 1.8GHz|400MHz FSB|2MB Cache (Dothan)
Intel® Pentium® M processor 735 - 1.7GHz|400MHz FSB|2MB Cache (Dothan)
Intel® Pentium® M processor 725 - 1.6GHz|400MHz FSB|2MB Cache (Dothan)

Actually,what's the main difference between 533mhz FSB and 400mhz FSB?

Centrino is a mobile technology name given to the combination of Intel Pentium M processor + Intel chipset + Intel Wireless Pro WIFI card. Sonoma is codename given to a certain type of Intel Pentium M proccessor.

Centrino = Intel Pentium M (Banias/Dothan/Sonoma) + Intel Chipset + Intel Pro Wireless series WIFI card

google for it la

I'd like to think FSB as the number of lanes on a highway.

533Mhz FSB has bigger bandwidth than 400MHz FSB.

a 5 lane highway compared to a 3 lane highway.

2 more lanes extra so traffic runs more smoothly.

Just a graphical illustration.

Dude,do try to be helpful.
If u know,just tell la..
Thanks.
So basiclly 533mhz FSB is run smoother and faster than 400mhz FSB.
That's all?

Theoratically yes if you don't get bottlenecks in the motherboard

In reality. Imagine if the computer doesnt say it has 533Mz FSB or 400MHz FSB or 667MHz FSB. When you use it you actually won't feel a difference. It just makes you feel better buying 1 with higher numbers. :) cheers!

didn't i tell you to read sniper's coold guide on centrino?

he's sniper on the roof.

Anyway,if dont feel much difference,then its ok to get the one with 400mhz FSB.
BTW,really would like to know whether anyone of u know how's M-Life's after sales service and support?
Kenny,do u know?have u tried?