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MATCH[ ]DD/MM/YY[ ]HOME TEAM v. AWAY TEAM[ ]RESULTS
EPL 18/08/12 Arsenal 0-0 Sunderland EPL 25/08/12 Stoke City 0-0 Arsenal
EPL 01/09/12 Liverpool 0-2 Arsenal | 31' L. Podolski (assist by Cazorla), 68' Cazorla (assist by L. Podolski) EPL 15/09/12 Arsenal 6-1 Southampton | J. Hooiveld (OG) 11' , L. Podolski 31' , Y. Gervinho 35' (assist by Arteta), N. Clyne (OG) 37', Y. Gervinho 71' , T. Walcott 88' (assist by Cazorla) UCL 19/09/12 Montpellier 1-2 Arsenal | 16' L. Podolski (assist by O. Giroud), 18' Y. Gervinho (assist by C. Jenkinson) EPL 22/09/12 Manchester City 1-1 Arsenal | 82' L. Koscielny COC 26/09/12 Arsenal 6-1 Coventry City | O. Giroud 39', A. Oxlade-Chamberlain 57', A. Arshavin 63', T. Walcott 74', Miquel 80', T. Walcott 90' EPL 29/09/12 Arsenal 1-2 Chelsea | Y. Gervinho 42' (assist by A. Oxlade-Chamberlain)
UCL 4/10/12 Arsenal 3-1 Olympiakos Piraeus | Y. Gervinho 42' (assist by Arteta), L. Podolski 56' (assist by Y. Gervinho), A. Ramsey 90'+4 (assist by O. Giroud) EPL 06/10/12 West Ham United 1-3 Arsenal | 41' O. Giroud (assist by L. Podolski), 77' T. Walcott (assist by O. Giroud), 83' Cazorla (assist by T. Walcott) EPL 20/10/12 Norwich City 1-0 Arsenal UCL 24/10/12 Arsenal 0-2 Schalke 04 EPL 27/10/12 Arsenal 1-0 Queens Park Rangers | Arteta 84' COC 31/10/12 Reading 5-7 Arsenal (A.E.T) | 45'+2 T. Walcott, 64' O. Giroud, 89' L. Koscielny, 90'+6 T. Walcott, 103' M. Chamakh, 120'+1 T. Walcott, 120'+3 M. Chamakh
EPL 03/11/12 Manchester United 2-1 Arsenal | 90'+5 Cazorla UCL 07/11/12 Schalke 04 2-2 Arsenal | 18' T. Walcott, 26' O. Giroud (assist by L. Podolski) EPL 10/11/12 Arsenal 3-3 Fulham | O. Giroud 11' (assist by T. Walcott), L. Podolski 23' (assist by Arteta), O. Giroud 69' (assist by T. Walcott) EPL 17/11/12 Arsenal 5-2 Tottenham Hotspur | P. Mertesacker 24' (assist by T. Walcott), L. Podolski 42', O. Giroud 45'+1 (assist by Cazorla), Cazorla 60' (assist by L. Podolski), T. Walcott 90'+1 (assist by A. Oxlade-Chamberlain) UCL 21/11/12 Arsenal 2-0 Montpellier | J. Wilshere 49' (assist by O. Giroud), L. Podolski 63' (assist by O. Giroud) EPL 24/11/12 Aston Villa 0-0 Arsenal EPL 28/11/12 Everton 1-1 Arsenal | 1' T. Walcott (assist by A. Ramsey)
EPL 01/12/12 Arsenal 0-2 Swansea UCL 05/12/12 Olympiakos 2-1 Arsenal | 38' T. Rosický (assist by Gervinho) EPL 08/12/12 Arsenal 2-0 West Bromwich Albion | Arteta 26' (penalty), Arteta 64' (penalty) COC 12/12/12 Bradford City [ps]*1 - 1 Arsenal | 88' T. Vermaelen (assist by Cazorla) EPL 15/12/12 Reading v. Arsenal EPL 22/12/12 Wigan Athletic v. Arsenal EPL 26/12/12 Arsenal v. West Ham United EPL 29/12/12 Arsenal v. Newcastle United
EPL 01/01/13 Southampton v. Arsenal FA 05/01/13 COC 09/01/13 EPL 12/01/13 Arsenal v. Manchester City EPL 19/01/13 Chelsea v. Arsenal COC 23/01/13 FA 26/01/13 EPL 29/01/13 Arsenal v. Liverpool
EPL 02/02/13 Arsenal v. Stoke City EPL 09/02/13 Sunderland v. Arsenal UCL FA 16/02/13 EPL 23/02/13 Arsenal v. Aston Villa COC 24/02/13
EPL 02/03/13 Tottenham Hotspur v. Arsenal UCL EPL 09/03/13 Arsenal v. Everton EPL 16/03/13 Swansea v. Arsenal EPL 30/03/13 Arsenal v. Reading
UCL 02(03)/04/13 EPL 06/04/13 West Bromwich Albion v. Arsenal UCL 09(10)/04/13 EPL 13/04/13 Arsenal v. Norwich City EPL 20/04/13 Fulham v. Arsenal UCL 23(24)/04/13 EPL 27/04/13 Arsenal v. Manchester United UCL 30(01)/04/13
EPL 04/05/13 Queens Park Rangers v. Arsenal FA 11/05/13 EPL 12/05/13 Arsenal v. Wigan Athletic EPL 19/05/13 Newcastle United v. Arsenal UCL 25/05/13
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18/08/12 Arsenal 0-0 Sunderland 25/08/12 Stoke City 0-0 Arsenal
01/09/12 Liverpool v. Arsenal 15/09/12 Arsenal v. Southampton 22/09/12 Manchester City v. Arsenal 29/09/12 Arsenal v. Chelsea
06/10/12 West Ham United v. Arsenal 20/10/12 Norwich City v. Arsenal 27/10/12 Arsenal v. Queens Park Rangers
03/11/12 Manchester United v. Arsenal 10/11/12 Arsenal v. Fulham 17/11/12 Arsenal v. Tottenham Hotspur 24/11/12 Aston Villa v. Arsenal 28/11/12 Everton v. Arsenal
01/12/12 Arsenal v. Swansea 08/12/12 Arsenal v. West Bromwich Albion 15/12/12 Reading v. Arsenal 22/12/12 Wigan Athletic v. Arsenal 26/12/12 Arsenal v. West Ham United 29/12/12 Arsenal v. Newcastle United
01/01/13 Southampton v. Arsenal 12/01/13 Arsenal v. Manchester City 19/01/13 Chelsea v. Arsenal 29/01/13 Arsenal v. Liverpool
02/02/13 Arsenal v. Stoke City 09/02/13 Sunderland v. Arsenal 23/02/13 Arsenal v. Aston Villa
02/03/13 Tottenham Hotspur v. Arsenal 09/03/13 Arsenal v. Everton 16/03/13 Swansea v. Arsenal 30/03/13 Arsenal v. Reading
06/04/13 West Bromwich Albion v. Arsenal 13/04/13 Arsenal v. Norwich City 20/04/13 Fulham v. Arsenal 27/04/13 Arsenal v. Manchester United
04/05/13 Queens Park Rangers v. Arsenal 12/05/13 Arsenal v. Wigan Athletic 19/05/13 Newcastle United v. Arsenal
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'A meeting in coarse cotton, sixpence for leather and laces. Factory hardened arms mix oil and mud. A century and a quarter forward, Gunners together; battles ahead. From those first heavy steps; Men will become gods.'
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Arsenal Football Club was originally founded in 1886 by employees of the the Dial Square workshop at the Royal Arsenal, which was an armaments factory in South-East London, in a district named Woolwich. Consequently, they were first named ‘Dial Square’ A Scotsman, David Danskin is the man said to have bought the first football for the club. Among the first players for the club was former Nottingham Forest goalkeeper, Fred Beardsley who would be the one to obtain a set of red kits, the colour the Arsenal still wear today. The first match for the new club took place on December 11, 1886 in an open field in the Isle of Dogs (another London district) against a club known as the Eastern Wanderers in which the club won 6-0. What is interesting is that other than the date of this match, everything else written so far may possibly be a myth.
By Christmas however, they had changed the name of their club to Royal Arsenal. They originally played on Plumstead Common before moving to Manor Ground in 1888. Royal Arsenal would move away and then return to Manor Ground as Invicta Ground proved too costly for them. Playing in the amateur leagues proved fruitful for Royal Arsenal as they won a couple of trophies and largely outclassed the other amateur clubs from London. But it wasn’t all rosy for them as the professional clubs attempted to sign their players and they were subsequently banned for amateur football for being too professional, which relegated them to only playing friendlies and in the FA Cup. So 1893 in a bid to gain access into the Football League, Royal Arsenal changed their name to Woolwich Arsenal and became a limited liability company, and attempted to buy the Manor Ground. This ended up working and Woolwich Arsenal began life in the Second Division, where they would spend eleven years, generally finishing mid-table every year. Under the guidance of manager Harry Bradshaw, Woolwich Arsenal would gain promotion to the First Division, where they would lose their manager before the season started to Fulham. They would never come close to challenging for the League title due to financial concerns. Their playing grounds were on the South side of London where most clubs in the division were on the North side, and so to stay afloat they were forced into selling their top players, which resulted in smaller attendances for home matches. In 1910 Woolwich Arsenal went into voluntary liquidation as they were on the verge of bankruptcy when Sir Henry Norris, the chairman of Fulham FC, and other businessmen bought the club. Norris was well aware of the financial difficulties of the location of Woolwich Arsenal and so attempted to merge the club with Fulham, and when that failed, attempted to have them play on alternating Saturdays, which also failed. And so Norris focused on finding a new location for the club, eventually setting his sights on Highbury, in North London, which was met with opposition from the fans and the residents of Highbury. Norris forced it through and spent 125,000 pounds on a new Stadium (9.5 million in 2010 prices) Having been relegated back to the Second Division, Woolwich Arsenal would move to Highbury in 1913, and change their name from ‘Woolwich Arsenal’ to ‘The Arsenal. After four years of no competitive football due to World War 1, The Arsenal would gain promotion into the First Division in a dubious way. In the final season of football in 1914, Arsenal had finished in 6th place, but the First Division was expanding from 20 clubs to 22 and two clubs were to be given the extra two places in the division. Chelsea was given the one place, despite being relegated in the previous season. The other club that had been relegated was none other than Tottenham Hotspur, and they were in the running for the extra place along with Barnsley and Wolves, who had finished ahead of Arsenal. Despite all this, Norris argued that The Arsenal should obtain promotion due to their “long service to league football” and the League board agreed, voting 18-8 to promote The Arsenal. It was alleged that they only managed this promotion due to bribery by Norris with his good friend and chairman of Liverpool, John McKenna, and has fueled the long-standing intense rivalry with Tottenham every since. It has also been argued that Norris was aware of match fixing before the war by Liverpool and Manchester United and used it as a tool to be promoted. Whatever the case, The Arsenal gained entrance into the First Division in 1919 and have never left since, holding the record for the longest unbroken stretch of top-flight football.
After some very poor showing and narrowly avoiding relegation, Norris had enough of his manager Leslie Knighton and hired Herbert Chapman in 1925. Chapman would put his stamp on The Arsenal, changing the way the club did things. Chapman changed the training philosophy and physiotherapy regimes and added numbers to the players shirts, a practice that is now common-place across the footballing world. He also altered the kit, adding white sleeves in 1933, and insisted The Arsenal be known as just ‘Arsenal’ so they would be the first club in alphabetical order every time. He even managed to change the name of the nearby tube station from Gillespie Road to Arsenal, which now has a 52 metre mural to commemorate the team’s move from Highbury in 2006. Chapman also changed the way the game was played on the pitch with the new formation now called ‘WM‘ which can also be described as a 3-2-5 or a 3-2-2-3. It proved so successful that by the late 1930s, most clubs had adopted this formation In Hebert Chapman’s first season in charge, Arsenal made their best finish ever in the league by placing second, but the next few seasons had them stay mid-table. Norris allowed Chapman to spend large sums of money however, and nearly won their first ever trip to the FA Cup final, losing 1-0 to Cardiff City. Three years later, and after buying Arsenal greats Cliff Bastin, David Jack and Alex James, Arsenal made the FA Cup final once more, this time defeating Chapman’s old club Huddersfield Town 2-0 and earning the clubs first ever major trophy. They then won the League title for the first time in 1931, recording their best ever win against Grimsby Town, 9-1, which still stands. In 1932 Arsenal lost the FA Cup Final to Newcastle 2-1 after they had a goal that was wrongly awarded as a goal kick. The 1932-33 season would see Arsenal win their 2nd league title. In January 1934, Herbert Chapman would suddenly pass away from pneumonia, but that would not stop the winning ways as they would win the League again that season, as well as 1934-35 and 1937-38 and another FA Cup in 1936. Arsenal were such a strong club that in 1934, England had seven Arsenal players start a match and defeated the then, World Champions Italy 3-2, and is still a record for most players from a single club starting a match for England. On March 9, 1935 Arsenal saw it’s largest ever attendance for a match versus Sunderland, counting 73,295 fans at Highbury. The Second World War would suspend all competitive football for the 1939-40 season, and Highbury was used as an ARP station (Air Raid Precautions), and had a bomb destroy the North Bank roof and setting fire to the terrace. With Highbury taken Arsenal played their home matches at White Hart Lane while football still continued, although the matches do not count in official statistics as star players would play as ‘guests’ for various clubs when not in the armed forces. The war claimed nine first team Arsenal players, the most of any club in the top flight. Arsenal were also afflicted with a heavy financial burden of repairing their war damaged stadium, and consequently struggled when regular club football began once again in 1946, finishing 13th. Tom Whittaker took over as manager and won the League title in the 1947-48 season. They would then win the FA Cup in 1949-50, a 2-0 win over Liverpool. After nearly winning the Double in the 51-52 season, but failing in both competitions, Arsenal won their 7th League title the following year in what was one
of the closest title races ever, narrowly beating Preston North End only on goal average. The title would ultimately prove to be Arsenal’s last trophy for seventeen long years. Tom Whittaker would pass away in 1956, and Arsenal would try and fail with Jack Crayston, George Swindin and Billy Wright as managers, generally finishing mid-table, and having to endure Tottenham winning the double in 1961. On May 5, 1966 Highbury would see it’s lowest ever attendance be recorded with 4,554 in the stands, and having only one player in England’s 1966 World Cup winning squad, a far cry from the successful and prosperous times under Chapman and Whittaker. Wright, then the manager, was fired and the Arsenal board made the odd appointment of their club physiotherapist Bertie Mee to replace him. The appointment of Bertie Mee was so surprising that he himself requested to return to his old role if he proved unsuccessful after one year. Alongside assistant Dave Sexton, Mee promoted players from the youth team, boys who would become household names in Charlie George, John Radford, and Ray Kennedy. Alongside Frank McLintock and Peter Shorey, they reached the League Cup in 1968 and 1969, but losing each one. They managed to make it into Europe for the 1970 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup however, winning it and ending their long trophy drought. The 1970-71 campaign then came, in which Arsenal recorded their first double winning campaign where they won the FA Cup and the League title, winning the league by defeating Tottenham at White Hart Lane on the last day, and defeating Liverpool 2-1 in extra time at Wembley. (And *we* complain about six years. Try 17 and then let’s talk crisis) Sadly the double winning side was broken up shortly after this, and after finishing 16th and 17, Bertie Mee gave his resignation.
Terry Neill would be appointed manager, and his time at the helm witnessed the strong emergence of an Irish core of Liam Brady, Pat Rice, Frank Stapleton, Pat Jennings, and David O’Leary which gave Arsenal a still-strong following amongst the Irish. While Neill’s time at the club was in the midst of the Liverpool dominance, he still managed to direct the club to three FA Cup finals in 1978, 79, 80 but only winning it in 79, when Alan Sunderland won the match in injury time to record a now-famous win. The 1979-80 season saw Arsenal play a record breaking 70 matches and reaching two finals, the FA Cup loss to West Ham and losing the finals in Europe to Valencia on penalties. The summer of 1980 saw Liam Brady leave for Juventus and apart from 1982-83, Arsenal continued to make the top four, but never looked like winning anything. The lost both Cup semi-finals that year and and Terry Neill struggled to manage the club, arguing with key players as a drinking culture immersed itself at Arsenal. After losing to Third Division Walsall in the League Cup, Neill was fired in Decemeber 1983 and replaced with Don Howe, under whom Arsenal would fare no better. And when Howe heard the board had approached Terry Venables (then at Barcelona) he resigned and Steve Burtenshaw was named caretaker while the club searched for a replacement. Alex Ferguson, then at Aberdeen in Scotland, was approached, but he rejected Arsenal and six month later would find himself at Manchester United.
In May 1986 former Arsenal player, George Graham was appointed manager of Arsenal. Graham would slowly sell off older players and promote from the youth team and was able to dictate a stronger sense of discipline at the club, something the previous managers had attempted and failed at. In Graham’s debut season, Arsenal was able to with the League Cup, coming from behind in the final against Liverpool with a double by Charlie Nichols. This was in the midst of a UEFA English ban for European competitions in relation to the Heysel disaster, and so Arsenal missed out on the 87-88 UEFA Cup.
The 87-88 campaign saw Arsenal lose the League Cup final to Luton Town, but Graham was building a squad that would continue to improve with their young defense coming together under captain Tony Adams, Lee Dixon, Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn. This, buoyed by the terrific midfield of David Rocastle, Michael Thomas and Paul Merson and goal-scoring sensation Alan Smith, in 1989 Arsenal would finally win their first League title since 1971, and would do so in stunning fashion. Arsenal led the league since Christmas, but allowed Liverpool, who were going for the Double, to overtake them by losing to Derby County and drawing at home to Wimbeldon. The final match of the season was at Anfield and Arsenal were required to win by two goals in order to win the title. With 90 minutes gone, Arsenal were up 1-0 when this happened:
And Arsenal were League Champions. Arsenal would have to wait until the 1990-91 season to find success again, and had to do so despite losing two points after a on-field brawl with Manchester United at Old Trafford, and losing Tony Adams for four months when he was sent to prison for drunk driving in December that year. However, they only lost one league match the entire year, and won the title by seven points. After signing Ian Wright from Crystal Palace in 1991 and losing David Rocastle to Leeds United the year after, Arsenal became known as ‘Boring, boring Arsenal’ depending on their stout defense and the goal-scoring prowess of Wright to win games. The FA Premier League was then created for the 1992-93 season, in which Arsenal were one of the founding members, and became the first club to win the FA Cup and League Cup double. The following year Arsenal won their second European trophy, defeating Parma 1-0 in the Cup Winner’s Cup final in Copenhagen.
Arsenal were forced to sack George Graham February 1995 when it was found he had taken an illegal payment of a player. Bruce Rioch took over at Arsenal, who guided Arsenal to the Cup Winner’s Cup Final, but lost to Real Zaragoza from a 40 yarder in the 120 minute; a howler by David Seaman. The summer of 1995 saw him Rioch sign Dutchman Dennis Bergkamp, breaking the English transfer recorded at the time. He was sacked just before the 1996 season over a dispute about the transfer funds. Arsenal then made the audacious and obscure decision to hire Frenchman Arsene Wenger from Nagoya Grampus Eight in Japan to manage their club. Wenger changed the club, completely eliminating the drinking culture that was prevalent at the time, changing the diets and training methods of the players, and brought about a change in tactics. Wenger brought in unknown players such as Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, Emmanuel Petit and Marc Overmars in 1997 and with George Graham’s noturious defense, Wenger became the first foreign manager to win the 1997-98 League title. Arsenal won the Double that year, winning the FA Cup. Ian Wright left that summer, having broken Cliff Bastin’s goalscoring record, his tally at Arsenal ending at 185 goals. The next few years were trophy-barren at Arsenal, despite signing Freddie Ljungberg and Thierry Henry. The rivalry with Manchester United fired up 1998-99 however as Arsenal finished 2nd in the League to United, and lost the FA Cup semi-final replay in extra time to them as well. The next season Arsenal again finished second best to Manchester United, this time by 18 points, and lost the EUFA Cup final in 0-0 game that went to penalties in Copenhagen to Galatasaray. The 2000-01 season saw Arsenal finish 2nd yet again to Manchester United, and lost in the FA Cup to Liverpool; as well as losing on the ‘away goals rule’ in the Champions league quarter-finals to eventual finalist Valencia.
The 2001-02 season became memorable as Arsenal’s furious attacking side lead by Thierry Henry won the Double for a record-tying third time. Arsenal were the only club to score in every game of the League that season, and went unbeaten away from home. They defeated Manchester United in the FA Cup, before also beating Chelsea in the finals. The 2002-03 was notable when Arsenal became the first club in over 20 years to retain the FA Cup title when they defeated Southampton in the final, but lost out on the League title to United losing their final game of the season at home to Leeds. That Last match day defeat to Leeds would become Arsenal’s last loss for over a year, and the 2003-04 season saw the rise of the ‘Invincibles’ where they won 26 and drew 12 matches, finishing 11 points clear of Chelsea in second place. Preston North End in 1888-89 is the only other team to have ever completed such a feat.
The following season Arsenal extended their unbeaten run to 49 consecutive League matches, an English league football record, when they finally lost to Manchester United. They failed to win the title that year as the newly cash rich Chelsea finished 12 points ahead, but managed to win the FA Cup for their 3rd time in four years. The 2005-06 season was largely disappointing, and Arsenal barely managed to obtain fourth place and their Champions League spot when St. Totteringham’s day came on the very last match day when Sp*rs lost to West Ham and Arsenal won their last ever match at Highbury stadium over Wigan. In the Champions League however, Arsenal made it the Finals against Barcelona, but a silly red card to keeper Jens Lehmann early in the match had Arsenal desperately defend a 1-0 lead for most of the game, before two late goals by Barca took the title away. Arsenal completed the move from historic Highbury to the Emirates stadium July 2006. Highbury was limited to only 38,500 seats after standing was banned in English football, and with the club unable to expand the stadium and needing to increase revenue streams to compete with money-giant clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United, a move down the road to Ashburton Grove was made. To facilitate the move in a manner that did not destroy the club financially, Arsene Wenger was forced to sell off highly paid stars and transition the club with youngsters, while still managing to be highly competitive and keep the fans into the massive 60,000+ stadium. Since the move Arsenal have stayed in the Champions League, qualifying for the competition for 14 years in a row, and have remained competitive in the Premier league, but ultimately collapsing the final months of the campaigns. December 11, 2011 saw Arsenal play at home and marked Arsenal’s 125 year in existence, and Arsenal celebrated the occasion the only way they know how; with style and class. The great-great-grandson of Fred Beardsley, the man who sourced the Arsenal original kit, assisted Vic Akers with the club’s kits and was brought onto the pitch in the pre-game ceremony. Supporters’ Stories were installed on benches outside the Armoury. A sixpence was thrown by referee Howard Webb at kick-off. Inside the players’ tunnel, celebrations of the 5-3 over Chelsea, and Henri Lansbury Sp*rs goal have been included on the walls. Arsenal had the Royal Artillery and Orchestra playing outside the stadium. The 1970s greats Bob Wilson, Charlie George, Frank McLintock, John Radford and Terry Neill were all introduced onto the Emirates pitch, followed by David O’Leary, Paul Davis, George Graham, Alan Smith, Anders Limpar and Ian Wright. Members of the Invincibles then took to the pitch, Ray Parlour, Robert Pires, Jens Lehmann, Lee Dixon, Lauren and Thierry Henry showed up. The great-grandchildren of founder David Danskin carried the matchball to begin the game. They even ensured there was a cannon alongside side the pitch.
Perhaps the best part of the weekend was the Friday prior, when Arsenal unveiled the statues of Herbert Chapman, Tony Adams and Thierry Henry outside the Stadium. So many greats could have been chosen, but it’s difficult to argue with the man who revolutionized football in the 1930s, the winning-est club captain, and the Arsenal’s record goal-scorer.
May there be more greatness to come for the beloved and storied club.
FA Cup Winners (10) 1930 Beat Huddersfield Town 2-0 1936 Beat Sheffield United 1-0 1950 Beat Liverpool 2-0 1971 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1979 Beat Manchester United 3-2 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 1998 Beat Newcastle United 2-0 2002 Beat Chelsea 2-0 2003 Beat Southampton 1-0 2005 Beat Manchester Utd 5-4 on penalties (after 0-0 draw)
League Cup Winners (2) 1987 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
European Nights 1970 European Fairs Cup winners beating Anderlecht of Belgium 4-3 on aggregate. 1980 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing on penalties to Valencia of Spain in Brussels. 1994 Cup Winners� Cup winners beating Parma of Italy 1-0 in the final in Copenhagen. 1995 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing 2-1 to Real Zaragoza of Spain after extra time in Paris. 2000 UEFA Cup finalists losing 4-1 on penalties to Galatasaray after a 0-0 draw and extra time in Copenhagen. 2006 UEFA Champions League finalists losing 2-1 to Barcelona of Spain in Paris.
Arsenal Ladies' Honours
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UEFA Women' Cup Winners 2007
National Premier League 1992/93, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2001/02, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2006/07
National League Cup 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007
WFA Cup 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007
FA Womens' Community Shield Winners (3+1 shared) 2000 (shared with Charlton Athletic), 2001, 2005, 2006
London County FA Women's Cup Winners (6) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004, 2007 Beat Millwall 2-0
National League South 1991/92
London Senior Cup 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004
Youth Honours
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FA Premier Youth League 1997/98
FA National Academy PLAY-OFF Final Under-17s: 1999/00 Under-19s: 2001/02
Our last 5 matches results are DLLWL. Among those losses, we conceded many goals at 2nd half such as michu's duo. Besides that more importantly forwards failed to score in the entire match from beginning to the end. Against A.villa, no goals were scored, against Everton, Walcott scored the 1st minute goal and fail to deliver anymore, failed to score against Swansea, Rosicky deliver once in 38 minute against Olympiakos and no more, 2 penalties against WBA and Vermaelen scored the 88th minute goal but he is not even a forward.
Among the last 6 matches, excluding the 2 penalties only 3 goals scored, 1 from forward, 1 from midfield and 1 from CB. Guess we missed Van Persie now as Giroud did not manage to cope up with what the former was able to. Maybe get a true striker or at least loan one in January?
Our last 5 matches results are DLLWL. Among those losses, we conceded many goals at 2nd half such as michu's duo. Besides that more importantly forwards failed to score in the entire match from beginning to the end. Against A.villa, no goals were scored, against Everton, Walcott scored the 1st minute goal and fail to deliver anymore, failed to score against Swansea, Rosicky deliver once in 38 minute against Olympiakos and no more, 2 penalties against WBA and Vermaelen scored the 88th minute goal but he is not even a forward.
Among the last 6 matches, excluding the 2 penalties only 3 goals scored, 1 from forward, 1 from midfield and 1 from CB. Guess we missed Van Persie now as Giroud did not manage to cope up with what the former was able to. Maybe get a true striker or at least loan one in January?
I hope so. Vote for new striker. Its proven already, Chamak and Giroud cant do much in recent game.
We could climb to top 5 if we win tonite. We cant loss this Reading game! COYG!
I believe, watever happen AW wont be sack from AFC. 'Without Arsene you wont see Arsenal as today' Yeah, mybe his time and legacy has past. But the board is wise enough to respect his contract. At least.
nah, we'll see wenger at the end of the season regardless of what happens. i'm quite concerned whether we'll get st totteringham's day or not this season, spurs looked good ytd. very negative signs leading to the game tonight as i have no idea who will score.
as long as i dont see gerv in CF or ramsey in RW i think we'll grind it
Our last 5 matches results are DLLWL. Among those losses, we conceded many goals at 2nd half such as michu's duo. Besides that more importantly forwards failed to score in the entire match from beginning to the end. Against A.villa, no goals were scored, against Everton, Walcott scored the 1st minute goal and fail to deliver anymore, failed to score against Swansea, Rosicky deliver once in 38 minute against Olympiakos and no more, 2 penalties against WBA and Vermaelen scored the 88th minute goal but he is not even a forward.
Among the last 6 matches, excluding the 2 penalties only 3 goals scored, 1 from forward, 1 from midfield and 1 from CB. Guess we missed Van Persie now as Giroud did not manage to cope up with what the former was able to. Maybe get a true striker or at least loan one in January?
Wow I didn't realize we are so poor upfront. Had a feeling ramsey and gervinho gonna start
Probably should use 2 strikers. I watched the Liverpool vs Aston Villa match, seems Suarez was overworked as a lone striker. I think Giroud is in the same situation since he is also acting as lone striker. Others would say we play with 3 upfront, with Poldi-Giroud-Walcott combo, but those two wide players tends to stay wide, therefore leaving Santi and Willie to support Giroud, which will create gaps in the midfield..
Our last 5 matches results are DLLWL. Among those losses, we conceded many goals at 2nd half such as michu's duo. Besides that more importantly forwards failed to score in the entire match from beginning to the end. Against A.villa, no goals were scored, against Everton, Walcott scored the 1st minute goal and fail to deliver anymore, failed to score against Swansea, Rosicky deliver once in 38 minute against Olympiakos and no more, 2 penalties against WBA and Vermaelen scored the 88th minute goal but he is not even a forward.
Among the last 6 matches, excluding the 2 penalties only 3 goals scored, 1 from forward, 1 from midfield and 1 from CB. Guess we missed Van Persie now as Giroud did not manage to cope up with what the former was able to. Maybe get a true striker or at least loan one in January?
buy stephan el shaarawy.... problem solve hehehehe
Probably should use 2 strikers. I watched the Liverpool vs Aston Villa match, seems Suarez was overworked as a lone striker. I think Giroud is in the same situation since he is also acting as lone striker. Others would say we play with 3 upfront, with Poldi-Giroud-Walcott combo, but those two wide players tends to stay wide, therefore leaving Santi and Willie to support Giroud, which will create gaps in the midfield..
on the other hand, adebayor/defoe looked confused, they didnt play well ytd. but when adebayor went off and defoe became the main man up front he looked a little livelier. might be because of the inclusion of gyfli's trickery and industry replacing the berbatovness of adebayor. i guess it depends on the striker's preferred style of play.
but what i know, gerv please dont start in CF. in fact with his current form please dont start at all. poldi/giroud/walcott if possible today please. i dont think poldi will have too much to cover so he should hopefully contribute more to the attacking side of the game. santi got some flak from his "dive", but that shouldnt affect the spaniard.
we really do have a classy team on paper, but in real life who knows what happened.
As tonight I'll be working in midnight shift, most likely I will be able to watch the 2nd half during my break
I didn't watch Reading game but hope tonight will be "the" night for us. As I mentioned in last thread, Giroud is becoming Chamakh's old self... slowly fading away in his role as goalscorer! AW has nobody to blame but himself as he has left himself with little choice in selecting striker - Chamakh has even failed to get himself a seat on the bench
Most importantly, we need our engine to work tirelessly. As long as our midfielders' drive and motivation are there, we should be good. Cazorla, Wishere and Arteta = some of the best combination we can get in Arsenal in recent years.
As tonight I'll be working in midnight shift, most likely I will be able to watch the 2nd half during my break
I didn't watch Reading game but hope tonight will be "the" night for us. As I mentioned in last thread, Giroud is becoming Chamakh's old self... slowly fading away in his role as goalscorer! AW has nobody to blame but himself as he has left himself with little choice in selecting striker - Chamakh has even failed to get himself a seat on the bench
Most importantly, we need our engine to work tirelessly. As long as our midfielders' drive and motivation are there, we should be good. Cazorla, Wishere and Arteta = some of the best combination we can get in Arsenal in recent years.
wat tok u bro ? just deliver the ball into the box, sure giroud will score
btw, giroud as the cf is miles better than gervinho as the cf
wat tok u bro ? just deliver the ball into the box, sure giroud will score
btw, giroud as the cf is miles better than gervinho as the cf
maybe it's all about our final third killer pass phail us!
Anyway, statistically, Giroud is still not that impressive (yeah, I know he's in his 1st year with us)
QUOTE(toshio14 @ Dec 18 2012, 03:29 AM)
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Bak Per TV5 Kieran
Mikel Jack Santi
Theo Lukas P Ox
That has got to be our strongest first 11 on paper this season. Let's win this!!!!
Strongest setup. Most likely Ox will be the CF, right?
Still, I think we should do everything we can to get Walcott's contract extension. No matter how good or how bad he is, let's deal with it AFTER we get his signature!
maybe it's all about our final third killer pass phail us!
Anyway, statistically, Giroud is still not that impressive (yeah, I know he's in his 1st year with us) Strongest setup. Most likely Ox will be the CF, right?
Still, I think we should do everything we can to get Walcott's contract extension. No matter how good or how bad he is, let's deal with it AFTER we get his signature!
walcott will lead the attack i think, ox will be our right wing
Everything was great about the match, except that we didn't get a clean sheet. The commentator mentioned that we only manage to get "ONE" away clean shift!
I watched only the 2nd half of the match. Maybe we were already in comfortable position then but I was entertained by the positive movements by our attackers. The motive and direction of the ball were clear - we are going to do some more damage! This is what we are all talking about, bring the game to the opponent end. Push them to the wall, make them fear of us, make them think that if they make a mistake, they will be punished!
Beside the great hattrick, the other 2 goals were good too. Walcott has indeed proven many of us (including me) that he has improved a lot and "might" be ready for the CF role. Whethere he's on center or sides, just SIGN DA TING!
to be fair, reading tried to be clever and played 442 which left them wanting in the central midfield. do they not know our strongest players are in the midfield?
when they reverted to their old formation in teh second half they looked a lot better, and we took the pedal off the gas
last time we had this scoreline we fluffed the next game. altho this time we see a proper direction. poldi/walcott/ox for the next few games please. giroud can be our plan B
Impressive win. At least a boost of morale after the capital one cup shocking exit.
One thing that made the difference is that Gervhino did not started and hence we less see someone who dribbles and dribbles into the box instead of crossing. Without him, there were more crosses outside the box and looks much more effective.
we did see much more purpose in the game due to lack of gervinho's headless dribbling and passing back and ramsey's backpasses. walcott offered the chance for cazorla to run at spaces left by him, and AOC was all purpose too. reading wasnt closing us down too, so that solved the park-in-the-bus dilemma we faced for a very long time.
i'd be pretty livid if wenger starts gervinho or ramsey again in the next game. i'd understand giroud starting against powerful defenders, but this front three look like exactly what we need. poldi is already a confirmed starter, his finishing is as sharp as anyone. walcott is looking deadly and wants to play in the center, and i think we all agree gerv/ramsey/arshavin is nowhere near the first team, so that allows AOC to slot into RW.
Yeah. Without physical present we can killed the game earlier. Thats good sign. Love this front line-up.
Only in the 2nd half, dont know where the concentration gone, we let go 2 sloppy goals that can be avoided. And also, when Ramshit came in, whole team looks no where could score anymore goal.
Atlast, from the Bradford game AW know which player deserve more in 1st 11 and also can make the diff. Pls keep the momentum Arsenal.
This post has been edited by ssmuhd84: Dec 18 2012, 09:18 AM
well done arsenal,a big win,last time we win this big when we play againts toter rite?now hopefully arsenal can get consistent,sign walkot, offload ramsey charmak santos,get new proven cf (ba mebi) another mid n another lb..
You are part of less ambitious fans. I am hunger for success & want to see Arsenal end their trophyless season soon.
Time to trash every single team out there. Bring out the no-fear attitude & winning mentality. It's been 7 years since I last saw it.
This ain't a cricket game dude..... but surely you do have huge unrealistic attitude as a fan. First hoping Arsenal gets relegated as a wake up call and now after winning 5-2 expects them trashing 5 goals or more in coming games....
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lol contradict casa is contradict. you want arsenal to get relegated and at the same time u want arsenal to win all other matches with bigger margin. arsene wenger is confused now. haha
To stable the team -> Stable the tempo -> Stable the score -> Cant f**king score anymore -> Ouch, we did conceded 2 cheap goals instead of scoring another 2
To stable the team -> Stable the tempo -> Stable the score -> Cant f**king score anymore -> Ouch, we did conceded 2 cheap goals instead of scoring another 2
A potential holding midfielder that is ending up in the wrong position? Not sure about that but, his finishing and ability to go forward is flawed by a huge margin.
Zambian defender STOPILLA SUNZU on the verge of joining Arsenal subject to clearance of Visa. If you're wondrering who's Sunzu, I'm equally as clueless as you! Hahaha. Hidden gem it seems
It looks like he's the one who scored the winning goal against Ivory Coast in the Africa Cup of Nations last year. He's a centreback/defensive midfielder. Nice name for a centre back. Stopzilla!
Zambian defender STOPILLA SUNZU on the verge of joining Arsenal subject to clearance of Visa. If you're wondrering who's Sunzu, I'm equally as clueless as you! Hahaha. Hidden gem it seems
if he can be like yaya toure i dont mind we getting him... most of strongest DM come from africa
btw
This post has been edited by undentifyxd: Dec 18 2012, 03:23 PM
chill brah. in all honestly whether we support or bash them does not matter, they dont hear us anyway. i personally do it to vent off anger or to keep myself positive
Many valid points from fellow ex-opponent, Gary Neville as he analyzed Arsenal current squad compared to the one he played against and how things can be improved. Nice sharing.
Agree with him that Arsenal is lacking of the penetration runs and is too comfortable with ball possession, especially in our man on fire, Cazorla. - compared to the old Arsenal
Well, Cazorla played well in the Reading game but if he could do more run-ins into the space, he's even better!
I still remember when we had Bergkamp as our false 9 who played fantastic one-touch football with Pires, Ljungberg and Henry (even Anelka when he was young) were all "runners".
Well, it is still open to discussion on which is the best way to play. But Gary Neville was correct that the current Arsenal is not the old Arsenal - whether it's good or bad, judge it yourself
Arsenal Football Club is currently in discussions with the Premier League, West Ham United, police and relevant authorities over the possible postponement of the Boxing Day fixture at Emirates Stadium, following the announcement that London Underground drivers plan industrial action on that day.
The match is in doubt due to the difficulties of getting 60,000 supporters, plus matchday staff and employees to the stadium safely in the advent of disruption to public transport on a public holiday.
The Club will make a further announcement as soon as a final decision is made.
as if we need any further reasons to acknowledge how good Gary Neville is as a football pundit
I was thinking during the first half of this video; "what the hell is this guy problem, criticizing Santi for the very thing that Santi did excellently during the match last night??" only to then realize that he was saying all those during the pre-match session. then Santi (and the front 6 in general) went and did what Gary was saying they should do all along; and we won 5-2 (could've and should've been more too)
I watched quite a number of MOTD coverages with Alan Shearer, Alan Hansen and Robbie Savage a frequent features in them. watching Gary Neville punditry really is a refreshing experiences, way way better than the 3 names I mentioned. Those 3 comments about the game were seldom repetitive, lazy and sometime really can make you go "WTF is he saying?"
as a player I loathed him. but as a football pundit, Gary Neville is very excellent at it
This post has been edited by toshio14: Dec 19 2012, 12:43 AM
I like Gary Neville analysis. He's very detail in explaining his points. Not only this, but previous reviews as well. I think he's done a good job. It won't be boring watching pre match analysis like before.
Anyway, I guess that's the point where other forumers and I have been saying all along. We need players to make runs. The invincibles are dam good a it. Cesc is another good one and Rosicky too. Now if santi do that often, we will be better because santi got a very good Spanish first touch to work some magic in tight areas. It's hard to explain from text but Gary nails it with the help of the video technology
for me it is simpler. this season in particular after Abou went off to his annual time-off our movements especially off the ball seems to go with him; out of the team. matches against Norwich, Man United and Swansea to an extent were the worst I've seen in terms of off the ball movements from us
starting with more pacy players i.e. Theo and Ox is 1 way of addressing that issue. having to deal with both their pace and directness kept Reading's defensive play occupied last night, thus opening up more spaces for Jack and Santi to dictate our attacks
of course it is easy when opposition played like Reading last night. it'll be interesting to see
1) if le Boss stick with how we played last night 2) how we will fare against opposition who play better pressing game
This post has been edited by toshio14: Dec 19 2012, 02:06 AM
watched the match on bpl express last nite. from what i watched, walcott didnt suit as a cf. maybe the midfield department have too supply a lot more through pass ball rather than straight to his feet.
1. Andrei Arshavin, £15m from Zenit As one of the club's most expensive signings the winger has not delivered what his manager had hoped and in recent years has become a fringe player and the subject of numerous transfer whispers.
2.Julio Baptista, 12-month swap deal, Real Madrid 2006 Came with a big reputation and seemed perfectly suited to English football but proved an overall flop for the club.
3.Marouane Chamakh, free, Bordeaux 2010 Solid in the first half of his first term with the club then admitted to feeling burnt out come January. He soon slipped down the pecking order and now makes most of his appearances as a substitute.
4.Pascal Cygan, £2.1m, Lille 2002 While his career at Arsenal started out with him featuring in some nig matches, the Frenchman was soon considered a fringe player. He dopped to being Wenger's fourth choice behind Sol Campbell, Kolo Touré and Philippe Senderos. He left after four years to join Villareal
5.Denilson, £3.4m, Sao Paulo 2006 Many were surprised by Wenger's decision to sign the Brazilian owing to a lack of experience. After five seasons he was loaned back to his former club after Arsenal failed to find a buyer. 6.Johan Djourou, free, Étoile Carouge before Arsenal youth team (senior 2004) Another of Wenger's defensive mistakes. Promised much but proved too light-weight to handle the challenge of the physical battle in the Premier League.
7.Richard Wright, £6 million Signed as a 23 year-old to provide competition for places and, ultimately, replace the veteran David Seaman between the sticks. It didn't work out. He slipped to third choice behind Stuart Taylor and made just 22 appearances for Arsenal in total before moving on to Everton.
8.Squillaci, £3.2 million Most people asked "Who?" when Wenger signed the Frenchman from Sevilla. "We needed a centre-back of quality and experience and at the right price - he was all of that," replied the Arsenal manager. Centre back? Yes. Right price? Maybe. Quality? Hmmmm.
9.Senderos, £2.5 million The Switzerland international joined Arsenal from Servette in 2003 but failed to hold down a regular first-team place and, after loan spells at Milan and then Everton, he move to Fulham.
10.Francis Jeffers, £10 million Arsene Wenger's "fox in the box" signed from Everton after Thierry Henry claimed the Gunners needed more stealth in the penalty area. "He is obsessed with scoring goals," claimed Wenger. Sadly his time in London was more 'flop' in the box than fox.
11.Gervinho, £10.8 million The Ivory Coast international was signed from Lille as speculation mounted that both Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri were set to leave The Emirates. Both departed but Gervinho has been unable to fill the void, showing potential sporadically but otherwise disappointing.
-Source: The Telegraph
This post has been edited by Griever5177: Dec 19 2012, 11:37 AM
1. Andrei Arshavin, £15m from Zenit As one of the club's most expensive signings the winger has not delivered what his manager had hoped and in recent years has become a fringe player and the subject of numerous transfer whispers.
2.Julio Baptista, 12-month swap deal, Real Madrid 2006 Came with a big reputation and seemed perfectly suited to English football but proved an overall flop for the club.
3.Marouane Chamakh, free, Bordeaux 2010 Solid in the first half of his first term with the club then admitted to feeling burnt out come January. He soon slipped down the pecking order and now makes most of his appearances as a substitute.
4.Pascal Cygan, £2.1m, Lille 2002 While his career at Arsenal started out with him featuring in some nig matches, the Frenchman was soon considered a fringe player. He dopped to being Wenger's fourth choice behind Sol Campbell, Kolo Touré and Philippe Senderos. He left after four years to join Villareal
5.Denilson, £3.4m, Sao Paulo 2006 Many were surprised by Wenger's decision to sign the Brazilian owing to a lack of experience. After five seasons he was loaned back to his former club after Arsenal failed to find a buyer. 6.Johan Djourou, free, Étoile Carouge before Arsenal youth team (senior 2004) Another of Wenger's defensive mistakes. Promised much but proved too light-weight to handle the challenge of the physical battle in the Premier League.
7.Richard Wright, £6 million Signed as a 23 year-old to provide competition for places and, ultimately, replace the veteran David Seaman between the sticks. It didn't work out. He slipped to third choice behind Stuart Taylor and made just 22 appearances for Arsenal in total before moving on to Everton.
8.Squillaci, £3.2 million Most people asked "Who?" when Wenger signed the Frenchman from Sevilla. "We needed a centre-back of quality and experience and at the right price - he was all of that," replied the Arsenal manager. Centre back? Yes. Right price? Maybe. Quality? Hmmmm.
9.Senderos, £2.5 million The Switzerland international joined Arsenal from Servette in 2003 but failed to hold down a regular first-team place and, after loan spells at Milan and then Everton, he move to Fulham.
10.Francis Jeffers, £10 million Arsene Wenger's "fox in the box" signed from Everton after Thierry Henry claimed the Gunners needed more stealth in the penalty area. "He is obsessed with scoring goals," claimed Wenger. Sadly his time in London was more 'flop' in the box than fox.
11.Gervinho, £10.8 million The Ivory Coast international was signed from Lille as speculation mounted that both Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri were set to leave The Emirates. Both departed but Gervinho has been unable to fill the void, showing potential sporadically but otherwise disappointing.
i think arsenal doesn't really need to add any more firepower this january transfer.. it's just wenger shouldn't be so stubborn in his player choice and formation..
1. Andrei Arshavin, £15m from Zenit As one of the club's most expensive signings the winger has not delivered what his manager had hoped and in recent years has become a fringe player and the subject of numerous transfer whispers.
2.Julio Baptista, 12-month swap deal, Real Madrid 2006 Came with a big reputation and seemed perfectly suited to English football but proved an overall flop for the club.
3.Marouane Chamakh, free, Bordeaux 2010 Solid in the first half of his first term with the club then admitted to feeling burnt out come January. He soon slipped down the pecking order and now makes most of his appearances as a substitute.
4.Pascal Cygan, £2.1m, Lille 2002 While his career at Arsenal started out with him featuring in some nig matches, the Frenchman was soon considered a fringe player. He dopped to being Wenger's fourth choice behind Sol Campbell, Kolo Touré and Philippe Senderos. He left after four years to join Villareal
5.Denilson, £3.4m, Sao Paulo 2006 Many were surprised by Wenger's decision to sign the Brazilian owing to a lack of experience. After five seasons he was loaned back to his former club after Arsenal failed to find a buyer. 6.Johan Djourou, free, Étoile Carouge before Arsenal youth team (senior 2004) Another of Wenger's defensive mistakes. Promised much but proved too light-weight to handle the challenge of the physical battle in the Premier League.
7.Richard Wright, £6 million Signed as a 23 year-old to provide competition for places and, ultimately, replace the veteran David Seaman between the sticks. It didn't work out. He slipped to third choice behind Stuart Taylor and made just 22 appearances for Arsenal in total before moving on to Everton.
8.Squillaci, £3.2 million Most people asked "Who?" when Wenger signed the Frenchman from Sevilla. "We needed a centre-back of quality and experience and at the right price - he was all of that," replied the Arsenal manager. Centre back? Yes. Right price? Maybe. Quality? Hmmmm.
9.Senderos, £2.5 million The Switzerland international joined Arsenal from Servette in 2003 but failed to hold down a regular first-team place and, after loan spells at Milan and then Everton, he move to Fulham.
10.Francis Jeffers, £10 million Arsene Wenger's "fox in the box" signed from Everton after Thierry Henry claimed the Gunners needed more stealth in the penalty area. "He is obsessed with scoring goals," claimed Wenger. Sadly his time in London was more 'flop' in the box than fox.
11.Gervinho, £10.8 million The Ivory Coast international was signed from Lille as speculation mounted that both Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri were set to leave The Emirates. Both departed but Gervinho has been unable to fill the void, showing potential sporadically but otherwise disappointing.
-Source: The Telegraph
where is silvestre? dont forget we paid a lot for park too
This guy has so much lols in names. stopzilla from Chipolopolo ..LOOLOLOLOLOL
Impressive: Man of the match performance. Did not allow himself to be bullied by the physical presence of Drogba and dominated him aerially. Continually cleared the ball from danger and blocked shots on the edge of the box. To top it all off, he scored the winning penalty in the shoot-out to seal the cup for his nation.
This post has been edited by xDjWanNabex: Dec 19 2012, 04:30 PM
lmao stopzilla suntzu. if he's good then i dont know who to put for CB. we have 3 very good CBs in the club atm. maybe arsenal can convert him into a DMF
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Thomas Vermaelen feels Theo Walcott is invaluable to Arsenal but accepts there is little his team-mates can do to stop him walking away from the club at the end of the season.
England forward Walcott got to start in his preferred central role at Reading on Monday, where he netted the final goal in a 5-2 win which lifted the Gunners to fifth place and within two points of third in the Premier League.
The 23-year-old’s current deal expires in the summer, with negotiations over an extension at the Emirates Stadium seemingly stalled.
And having seen Robin van Persie leave last summer when he could not agree a new deal, Vermaelen admits no matter how key a player may be, the rest of the squad have to remain focused on the job in hand.
'Of course we want him to stay but that is between the player and the club. I don’t know what is going on behind the scenes – we don’t talk about it because that is going on in football all the time,’ said the Belgium defender.
‘It happened last time with Robin. It’s the job of the board and the club what they are going to do with it so we can’t do anything about it.’
But Vermaelen admits Walcott has been ‘invaluable’ for the Gunners this term. He added: ‘He is dangerous for us, can stretch a team with his pace and I hope he could stay this year.’
Arsenal came under fire following their Capital One Cup defeat on penalties at League Two Bradford a week ago, with Vermaelen’s spot-kick miss confirming their exit.
After Monday’s win at Reading, Vermaelen added: ‘You can’t stand still too long with a defeat like that. We had a lot to prove. A lot of people questioned us and maybe that’s normal but we wanted to perform against Reading and we did that.’
Not that I don't trust us..but..c'mon man..we don't wanna get knocked out so early.Atleast biar ManU get kicked out first against whoever they get.heh
true that bro, Barcelona is on high roller now, every game they approached period are all at maximum gear Messi has never been better in his life <---well, this applies to him year in year out
id take teams like malaga, Barce?!? later maybe.... hell id even take Dortmund as a worst case scenario preference, that said its also because we have played Dortmund aplenty of times already, with that H2H record is not that bad Dortmund is do-able
ac milan is equally contagious to barca as arsenal, most underrated tie is shakhtar-dortmund, two teams that is offensively impressive. man, so many good ties.
AW need to show what he have up his sleeve this time! It is much harder task as compared to last year's AC Milan in which we had knocked out by them.. Arsenal cannot afford to be out in the last 16 again!! PLEASE do something in the transfer window!!
And they have Ribery, Robben at the side with Gomez at the front.. Tat is one f**king scary offensive force.. Did I mention Muller? OMG!
sagna take care of ribery no problem... BFG take care of Gomez no problem... Vermaelen take care of Muller no problem... Gibbs take care of Robben hmmmm
more reason why we need to keep walcott at arsenal
I don't understand why u guys are so eager to see Walcott to sign the contract.
He is nothing compared to RVP, Song, Henry or even Wilshere.
Arsenal can afford to lose him. I don't see anything special abt him other than headless chicken run. Remember he is labeled as brain-less footballer by the media & football pundit.
I don't understand why u guys are so eager to see Walcott to sign the contract.
He is nothing compared to RVP, Song, Henry or even Wilshere.
Arsenal can afford to lose him. I don't see anything special abt him other than headless chicken run. Remember he is labeled as brain-less footballer by the media & football pundit.
We CAN afford to loose him, provided we get a decent replacement. Ramsey and gervionho just dont cut it at the moment.
This post has been edited by xDjWanNabex: Dec 20 2012, 08:01 PM
I don't understand why u guys are so eager to see Walcott to sign the contract.
He is nothing compared to RVP, Song, Henry or even Wilshere.
Arsenal can afford to lose him. I don't see anything special abt him other than headless chicken run. Remember he is labeled as brain-less footballer by the media & football pundit.
he might not in the same class as henry or rvp, but he's the best that we got right now and losing another one from first eleven is not good at all
I like to see Theo as our main striker, not Giroud, he is way too slow for PL
And they have Ribery, Robben at the side with Gomez at the front.. Tat is one f**king scary offensive force.. Did I mention Muller? OMG!
they have the force of ribbery, robben, gomez and muller. other good players include Lahm, schweinsteiger, javi martinez and Neuer. They may not be as fluid as Barca but their strike force is remarkable... beating Real Madrid last season to get into final. Wenger has to start planing the game now.
I guess that's quite a challenge for us. AW really need to get prepared, start with whether or not to fulfill Walcott's request, followed by any reinforcement in January.
Knowing AW's style for so many years, I do not put much hope that AW will be buying in January.
we did buy quite a number of reinforcement during January transfer window once where we brought in Abou, Adebayor and Theo few seasons back. not that I think we need that much re-inforcement though
We always give epic battles in the past yo.Sad that it usually only last for one-leg.Still,people always give props to us in CL even though we don't win.
I don't understand why u guys are so eager to see Walcott to sign the contract.
He is nothing compared to RVP, Song, Henry or even Wilshere.
Arsenal can afford to lose him. I don't see anything special abt him other than headless chicken run. Remember he is labeled as brain-less footballer by the media & football pundit.
Likewise. I always felt that Walcott has a tendency to disappear during big games.
IMO, he is definitely not a CF (not yet? not ever? who knows). I like him on the wings (or rather, I think that's the only position he can play reasonably well in), but I sure as heck don't think he's indispensable to the club, or worthy of 100k/week either.
It's not bout the age. It's bout the performance. If AW manage to get someone better to replace theo, just do it. If not, theo is one of our best performer this season.
Age is not a debate because no one can argue that theo has been here for a long time already. With that much first team experience, he already a senior. If he is not good enuf, he should be on the bench or reserve no matter your 18 or 28 years old.
We shall focus on getting and playing good players while slowly building young players. You cant play Ramsey week in n out with his current form and suffer games just because you want him to grow. Player selection shall be always based on form not age. Team building should be done in stages instead.
been giving this a thought a couple of times decide to discuss about this now
you know how Wenger go about saying, after 6 years he finally manage to rebuild a decent team i believe its true with the likes of Fab,Nasri,RvP,Song and other addition, i believe the squad is ready to rock however, thou taking 6 years perhaps is nth for the club..but it meant a lot to the players
For RVP at his age now...his primary objective is to win trophies, if i were in his shoes, his age..i cant be under a rebuilding processs i need trophies now, and that we Arsenal cant guarantee to him period
For Nasri,Cesc,Song we talk about loyalty, yes imo they are still young but living at this era where players have no patient,loyalty and influenced by the big pays..... keeping players under rebuilding team is almost impossible
splashing the cash is imo beginning to turn like a necessity to football clubs now, should wenger opt to rebuild the club for another 4-5 years through grooming and mediocre signings...players will continue to leave
in other words after 6-7 years Wenger was only playing a game that he was never gonna win.
should wenger opt to continue this route there is only 1 thing i foresee that can perhaps aid to Wenger game plan, which is the financial fair play oh well, lets see how things pend out when that kicks in
Aw like to build a team not buying them...... he started using this method by buying the invincible squad... after he succeeded with it he want to build another team which consist of RVP, Nasri , Fab, Song and others but they disappoint mr wenger by leaving Arsenal and now AW seems want to build a British core team and hope they can do what Aw want them to do in 3-5 years time......
but do us as fans cant wait another 3-5 years time???
During the invincible day, there is no mega rich Chelsea and Man City and Arsenal is able to compete with Man U in terms on wages and opportunity.
In that era, all those players wenger bought are nearly the peak of their career and by the time they changes club, they already passed their peak. Then, AW slowly give playing time to the new generation like Cesc, bought RVP and Song but time doesn't allow AW to do what he wants as players leave one after another due to series of disappointment.
Time is changing now. AW need to alter his philosophy to suit the situation now.
Btw, Walcott is also British and his contract is expiring.
During the invincible day, there is no mega rich Chelsea and Man City and Arsenal is able to compete with Man U in terms on wages and opportunity.
In that era, all those players wenger bought are nearly the peak of their career and by the time they changes club, they already passed their peak. Then, AW slowly give playing time to the new generation like Cesc, bought RVP and Song but time doesn't allow AW to do what he wants as players leave one after another due to series of disappointment.
Time is changing now. AW need to alter his philosophy to suit the situation now.
Btw, Walcott is also British and his contract is expiring.
i never knew that we bought any invincible players near the peak of their career most of them are unknown.... and i can tell that the our fab generation squad is a fail experiment from wenger.... they cant even win a carling cup zzzz
i hope that with this current generation we can at least win something for theo case arsenal already offered him a contract but it seem he doesnt want to sign da ting... so at least there is an effort to keep theo unlike RVP, Nasri, Fab
btw i dont care what will happen with walcott he can go if he want.... already fed up with this unsettled issue
From my point of view, Wenger not simply want to build a team. He want to build a culture, a legacy, a heritage where Arenal will keep going producing a great team long after he's gone by self grooming a group of core players supplemented with some outside buy. Not a club who achieve greatness at one point but fade away into folklore in time to come. That's why there'a lot of work been put in the academy and the sustainable financial model of the club. Just look at Barca, how exceptional it is their football team and academy in this era. Unfortunately for Wenger the very foundation block has not come to realization within this few years due to the long term injury problems of good players and departures of several players that Arsenal have put their work on. If this whole vision don't come to fruition, the club fate will depend on what kind of manager we'll get after Wenger and what decisions the board will take.
What time is tonight match against Wigan Ath? Players to look out for, Kone, Maloney, Lopez. They have a strong attacking force albeit weak defence. ;P
if we maintain the absence of ramsey and gervinho i think we'll be able to win this. sorry giroud, you'll have to wait for the 2nd half to make ur impact. poldi/walcott/ox to start for me.
Excellent job done if TW sign da thg. But still i hope more recruit to follow in Jan (well known/big name/hot talent players, not unknown) since we, even have quite many squad players but most of them r either raw/inexperience talents/youngsters). We need some deep in squad that can come out of the bench & make the different.
RED highlighted name: I'd prefer if AW dont include these player in the bench anymore. Rather than give them, i would prefer young, inexperience reserve player like Angha, Miquel, Akpom & Eisfeld. Chamakh seem cant find his form at all & i doubt he had tried his best to regain it.
GREEN highlighted name: Their performance is like yo-yo. Ramsey play style wont work if team in need for goal except he is good for dirty defensive work from midfield when we r leading with more than a goal margin. Gerv cant score on regular basis. If team cant get so much chances, i dont see he would score. Arsh might not have his best nowadays but i still think he still have good attacking brain and his assist in team play, finding & open up the spaces is better than Ramsey & Gerv. Its just with his problem with game pace, i would say is a fair dicision to put him on the bench with option to come on final 20-30minutes to go.
This post has been edited by HiperPanda: Dec 22 2012, 06:40 PM
arshavin is useful to us especially away from home, when we are defending deep, if we can get to ball to him, he can run with it, then we need other players to sprint forward and get into scoring positions, plus his diagonal crosses are good. just not sure whether he still has the enthusiasm to play anymore.
i dunno bout the first 30 minutes but the last 15 minutes that I watched, there's only movement from the right however Ox was very poor. can't beat his marker. no understanding between him, Cazorla and Sagna. Podolski and Walcott were nowhere to be seen.
i dunno bout the first 30 minutes but the last 15 minutes that I watched, there's only movement from the right however Ox was very poor. can't beat his marker. no understanding between him, Cazorla and Sagna. Podolski and Walcott were nowhere to be seen.
Ox is better at CM/AM position, not winger. I thought Podolski and walcott is taking a few min off from the pitch. Only shown once a while.
Wilshere is pretty good atm. At least not that soft like vermy.
Dec 17 2012, 05:13 AM, updated 13y ago
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Glad to see we are killing a game early on 
Not sure about that but, his finishing and ability to go forward is flawed by a huge margin.
is this true? still haven c any news on soccernet..pls update me..haha
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