could you please explain more on that? I thought UOL must be completed totally within UOL's external programme by itself?

What I mean is, some people find UOL too tough to handle, so they transferred to UKT program. Due to UOL's strict standards, they can be transferred to the UKT program but not the other way round.

so we could do two years of UOL and opt for UKT on third?

That. I've never seen. there might be but then those I saw was that they failed year 2 miserably and they moved on to UKT.

Is it possible to do UKT and get PTPTN to pay for the 2 local years then fund the third year yourself? Or PTPTN won't approve?

Yes, you may apply PTPTN for UKT first and second year, however the amount is maximum 16K a year, whist UKT fees are about 20+k

1. It's worthy, if you value experience more.

2. In order to become eligible for BPTC, students are required to take EU law and one more module(I forgot the name but it involves thesis and viva).

thanks! That other module being also an elective subject?

As per the latest details on the bsb website.



EU law is a must.

If I were to say take the required modules during my LLB, and decide to take CLP to practice in Malaysia for the first 10 years. Will I still be eligible to go for the BPTC in UK after that?

Laws change. Therefore, I can't answer you on that until at least 8 years later to be honest with you. Also, obtaining BPTC doesn't mean that you can practice there. Without a working permit or a PR, you cannot do it there too. BPTC is just like a shortcut just like the Australian Bar where some students skip CLP for the sake of it. Some international companies/banks don't really care if you are called or not, but it would be easier for you if you wanna practice later after getting BPTC/CLP/Australian Bar.

So in a way, students who go for UKT or BPTC are merely trying to avoid CLP in order to practice law in Malaysia?

THanks bro. How abobut for the third year in UK, including living expenses how much do you think one would need?

Not really. UKT doesn't mean that you can avoid taking CLP unless you take up BPTC. I have friends that came back to take CLP after a year or two there.

any advice for someone who is starting classes next week into UOL?

1st year? Enjoy it. Pass it all at least with higher marks. Year 2 and Year 3 will be seriously tougher. But then, if you can afford it, UKT is good for those that can enjoy it.

Expenses wise - Depending on where you go but including fees and all it'll be safe to say approx 120k. It might be lower unless fees increase/exchange rates increase.

Well, as it turns out my family can pay for it, but I feel that we just can't afford it, nor would I be comfortable spending my parents' retirement money when either of the two options get me from point A to point B. I find the reason of "just going there for the experience" or "the exams are easier (in the case of studying the first x years here in BAC or ATC) not extremely completely justifiable to spend off 90~120k in a matter of 11 to 12 months. I apologize if I am offending any fellow UKT students here, I'm probably just jealous and lightly upset that many of my friends are flying off to UK (be it for law, business, other studies) this coming September.

Anyway, I am being led to believe by other UOL course takers (although they're not taking LL.B, they're from other fields) that all papers, not caring if they're for intermediate, part 1 or part 2 of the whole degree course have almost the same difficulty level, is this not true?

Thought u are in UTAR ?

I.. don't think I'm in UTAR?