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digitalz
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Aug 5 2014, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 5 2014, 10:05 PM) um.. hi guys, UOL's August intake and Sept intake, do the students graduate at the same time assuming that they finish their courses within the 3 years' time? No difference actually. All exams will be in May. Also, if you are comparing BAC and ATC, BAC starts later compared to ATC. Some colleges start Sept, some Aug.
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digitalz
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Aug 5 2014, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 5 2014, 10:18 PM) Hey, thanks! now then.. is it worth saving the 100k instead of going for UKT? and can a UOL external graduate be eligible for BPTC? Actually you can. But you'd need to take EU law. Still, it'd be better if you can double confirm with BAC themselves. Also, to be honest, UOL isn't as easy as one expects. It's one of the hardest law programs. That's why BAC offers UKT to students from UOL. This post has been edited by digitalz: Aug 5 2014, 10:25 PM
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digitalz
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Aug 5 2014, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 5 2014, 10:29 PM) could you please explain more on that? I thought UOL must be completed totally within UOL's external programme by itself? What I mean is, some people find UOL too tough to handle, so they transferred to UKT program. Due to UOL's strict standards, they can be transferred to the UKT program but not the other way round.
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digitalz
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Aug 5 2014, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 5 2014, 10:41 PM) so we could do two years of UOL and opt for UKT on third? That. I've never seen. there might be but then those I saw was that they failed year 2 miserably and they moved on to UKT.
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digitalz
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Aug 30 2014, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 30 2014, 11:55 AM) thanks! That other module being also an elective subject? As per the latest details on the bsb website. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The foundation subjects are:
i) Public Law (including Constitutional Law, Administrative Law and Human Rights)
ii) Law of the European Union
iii) Criminal Law
iv) Obligations (including Contract, Restitution and Tort)
v) Property Law
vi) Equity and the Law of Trusts EU law is a must.
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digitalz
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Aug 30 2014, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 30 2014, 01:02 PM) If I were to say take the required modules during my LLB, and decide to take CLP to practice in Malaysia for the first 10 years. Will I still be eligible to go for the BPTC in UK after that? Laws change. Therefore, I can't answer you on that until at least 8 years later to be honest with you. Also, obtaining BPTC doesn't mean that you can practice there. Without a working permit or a PR, you cannot do it there too. BPTC is just like a shortcut just like the Australian Bar where some students skip CLP for the sake of it. Some international companies/banks don't really care if you are called or not, but it would be easier for you if you wanna practice later after getting BPTC/CLP/Australian Bar.
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digitalz
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Aug 30 2014, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 30 2014, 03:00 PM) So in a way, students who go for UKT or BPTC are merely trying to avoid CLP in order to practice law in Malaysia?  Not really. UKT doesn't mean that you can avoid taking CLP unless you take up BPTC. I have friends that came back to take CLP after a year or two there.
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digitalz
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Aug 30 2014, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 30 2014, 09:29 PM) any advice for someone who is starting classes next week into UOL?  1st year? Enjoy it. Pass it all at least with higher marks. Year 2 and Year 3 will be seriously tougher. But then, if you can afford it, UKT is good for those that can enjoy it.
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digitalz
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Aug 30 2014, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(marczeman2 @ Aug 30 2014, 04:00 PM) THanks bro. How abobut for the third year in UK, including living expenses how much do you think one would need? Expenses wise - Depending on where you go but including fees and all it'll be safe to say approx 120k. It might be lower unless fees increase/exchange rates increase.
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digitalz
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Aug 31 2014, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 30 2014, 10:05 PM) Well, as it turns out my family can pay for it, but I feel that we just can't afford it, nor would I be comfortable spending my parents' retirement money when either of the two options get me from point A to point B. I find the reason of "just going there for the experience" or "the exams are easier (in the case of studying the first x years here in BAC or ATC) not extremely completely justifiable to spend off 90~120k in a matter of 11 to 12 months. I apologize if I am offending any fellow UKT students here, I'm probably just jealous and lightly upset that many of my friends are flying off to UK (be it for law, business, other studies) this coming September. Anyway, I am being led to believe by other UOL course takers (although they're not taking LL.B, they're from other fields) that all papers, not caring if they're for intermediate, part 1 or part 2 of the whole degree course have almost the same difficulty level, is this not true? It is true. But then, some in the legal field told me that it's from the intermediate levels that you can begin to gauge your levels. If for the 1st year, you barely scrap through it, it will be harder and harder if one don't "up" their own levels. Although some people might tell you to take it easy for the 1st year since you'd only need a pass but then, in order to see where you stand in UOL's exams, don't aim for only a pass, aim higher.
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digitalz
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Aug 31 2014, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 31 2014, 02:05 PM) so wait a minute, do the marks of our first year count into the aggregate of our total marks which in the end defines whether we'd get 1.1, 2.1, 2.2 etc? No. Like what you know, it is not included. It's just that Year 1 is the part where you can see where you stand or how your "hard work" worked out for you through your results. 1st year "scrapped" through with all passes but Part 1 and Part 2 will be totally different compared to the Intermediate. Some students took a "break" for 1 year after Part 1. I know a few adults that did that too. They took Part 1 and decided to take a break for Part 2 due to the hectic & bulkier workload.
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digitalz
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Jan 8 2016, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(blueyepanda @ Jan 8 2016, 01:53 AM) Hi there I am contemplating to sign up for UOL external program, on a part time basis. Was told there are four intakes in a year but all students will only sit for exam mid 2017. I asked the counselor if there are any term breaks in between and the answer is no. Is there a semester break or just public holidays observed? And I was also told this is a tough program to do on a part time basis, 4 subjects. Could someone kindly share experience? Thank you Let's put it this way, I know and have seen people that worked scoring alright for it but it goes down to how you set your time. The part-timers do self-study mostly and the worst I know was only failing 1 sub. Much better than some of the full-timers themselves. It is tough, but not unmanageable. It all boils down to how much time you have, and how you want to study. There's only 1 exam per year, and 1 resit per year. If you fail more than 2 subs, you can only choose to resit 1 paper and wait until the next year to resit the other. That's why some people take longer time to finish.
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digitalz
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Jan 10 2016, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(blueyepanda @ Jan 10 2016, 10:33 PM) Thanks bro. Your words gave me some confidence to sign up. Lecturers wise, not sure if KL or PJ better. Not sure which branch to sign up with. Any pointers? Next intake is in April. I should start preparing my mind, mentally perhaps. Their lecturers should be the same for both campuses from what I know. No difference in lecturers. You can start by reading the stuff from Internet. UOL had pdf files on the net too. Try going through the first year subs like common law & reasoning, criminal law, public law and contract law. Get a feel of it first. Make notes, as long as you can understand them. Principles from the cases etc. This post has been edited by digitalz: Jan 10 2016, 10:43 PM
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digitalz
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Jan 12 2016, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(blueyepanda @ Jan 12 2016, 08:29 PM) Thanks, digitalz. I tried searching their web for pdf files you referred to, do you mean this? http://www.londoninternational.ac.uk/commu...aws-subject-guiOther references require login and password. Yep. Those subject guides. You'd be given more access when you sign up with UOL.
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digitalz
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Jan 13 2016, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(blueyepanda @ Jan 13 2016, 07:54 PM) Thanks bro and good luck to me!  Good luck and have fun! Do notes that you can understand yourself. Tons of scribbling etc.
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digitalz
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Jan 25 2016, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(blueyepanda @ Jan 25 2016, 03:24 PM) Started looking at the some of the subject guides. Lotsa references to different books. Do we really have to buy and/or read all those?  Are the books easily found in our bookstores? Questions to all UOL students, how did you managed your study? Care to share some tips? Thank you Lol. Depending on how you want to study. Books - depending on whether you want to get them or not too. I believe BAC has a good collection of books in the library. If you can't get them in KL, find them in the PJ campus. Read, read, and continue reading. But then, different people will have different study methods. Makes notes, principles of the cases, facts of the cases etc etc. I know some people that can memorise well but cannot really apply the law, some can just do it easily. Study hard and smart. Not study hard only.
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