haha..mega wealthy ppl tend to stay low..at least for those in hk..theres simply no need to show off by buying a ferrari...which would only cause envy and evil thoughts..

Got la. I know some rich-dad-sons who like to show off their father's richess.
My job force me to be among such people. I dont see what is there to show-off since the money is not their own effort.
End up they just look like paris hilton and appear ridiculous

love all the jdm old car. why care about others thinking.

you siok sendiri can already

this is the point im very agreeable. some ppl drive decent car r decent drivers as well even some local brand car can sometime be nuisance & vice versa. idiotic driver or not is usually not related to the car he drive.

ppl who maintain old car well is respectable. ppl drive a good car is respectable as well. even tho we dono the story behind it , i mean who paid for the car or his own hard earned money - but the facade is respectable AS LONG AS he doesnt be an idiot.


I agree with your point but your example sure lah, volvo is how much price punya car vs myvi how much. volvo well known for the chassis solid like rock.


personal achievement ,yeahhhh......if I can own a 'dream' car, I will get one. cuz I like car so much.

many ppl dont realise, or dont want to acknowledge, that many owner try to get a better car because they want to enjoy a better ,probly luxurious car, or simply a car enthusiast themselve RATHER THAN SHOWING OFF

Of course, I personally have friend like that, but you cannot be cynical and generalize everyone with a decent car as negative, bad or showing off.

I believe many ppl even here in F&F are car enthusiast, if they can afford a good car , they will definitely get one. Again, it's about that ATTITUDE....phrases like biar papa , asalkan bergaya ...is more negative character association with showing off rather than truly car enthusiast or passionate toward car, will try to afford and maintain one but keeping it low profile and still very road civic and understanding to other motorists as well..

i just beh tahan that other ppl try to knock down on ppl expense that do drive a slightly better car when most of the time, ppl get a new better car because they always emphasize, they like sthg about it or because their career is improving, and feel more safety for their family . unless after getting the car, the ATTITUDE then is SHOWING OFF. thats where the idiocy begins and bring a bad name to those who change better cars.



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Dec 11 2012, 05:21 PM

Lol. The cash in your pocket is more important than the car you drive, bro.

If still reliable whynot?

But old cars usually not reliable.

Overheating, rust and reliability is always an issue

my car over 30yrs old about the same ages as me...sometimes i park jockey oso and alot pipul rook at me...i bangga abit cause most car in jockey are new car...

if you tend to worry a lot what other people would say to you when you drive an old car better get new car.

its not the car's age that matter but the driver's attitude.
what is the point of driving a new car but driver don't even bother to use the signal light, hogging the fast lane or zig zag like no tomorrow?

so you love to argue for the sake of arguing.

i have the option to drive a rm10k proton and a conti, the conti is reserved for spirited run for the weekend. my conti is not an S class and does not have those features, and i doubt it will help here. please talk from malaysian point of view.
my dsg gb also quite terrible for slow driving and will i even need the extra power in such traffic conditions?

how about scratches? last time my old banger kena hit at side mirror during the jam, and i got nothing to worry.
and the all the stupid lubang and road conditions that will kill the expensive tires/rims/shocks in no time...

and not to mention when your boss see your car too.

and when i go work i dont want to worry about the car, just park and straight focus.

and what kind of safety mumbo jumbo do i need at 20km/h?

pretty much this haha.

Exactly. You can drive like a turtle, doesn't matter. Someone else may be speeding, or just inconsiderate, sleepy, whatever, and crash into you. How good are your chances of survival? Small hint: Watch this video.
Are you sure you want to sit in that Wira? (Yes, technically it's an Arena, but the front end is the same, right? I think this test is quite reliable.) I don't think the old Saga is better than that. Or a Kancil. (Or Viva...). Then watch this video, of the new Saga. Same crash test:


And finally a state of the art car, the new C segment Volvo V40.


Now I won't look down upon you for driving an old Saga, Wira, Kancil, ... (I might though if you drive a Camry). But if you can afford it (without too much pain), please do consider buying a safer car. You don't even need to spend a ton on it. A Citroen Xsara for example can be yours for around 10k. Yes, it will be harder to maintain, it might be a bit more expensive to run. But the drive is much better, and the car is reasonably safe. Again, if you don't have a choice, you don't have a choice. But if you DO have a choice, if you could easily afford something better, then by all means, do it. Even if it is a Saga or Myvi. Anything will be better than that old car.

What good are all your investments (and I believe the housing market in Malaysia is a bubble that is going to burst sooner or later) when you are dead?

@motomeiji: I beg to differ.

While yes, there are some rubbish new cars, there were basically no good cars (by todays standards) 20-30 years ago. Regardless of brand, reputation or price. I mean normal cars, not race prepped cars with cage, racing harnesses, helmet etc.

There are enough tests to show that:

(A good car 9 years ago, vs a good current (at the time of the test) car. Same class, actually same car, just different generation.)

A 10 year old Volvo might beat a Myvi, but then again the Myvi design is already many years old. But a 20 year old Volvo? No way will it beat the Myvi.

Btw. lowering your car doesn't seem a good idea either:


I also don't think people generally drive an expensive car to show off (one of my uncles certainly thinks so though of drivers of cars that are more expensive than his car). Of course there are people like that, maybe those who put fake badges onto their cars? Like lowest spec S class transforms into S63 AMG etc.).

And after all of this I do also have to say that I admire drivers of well kept old cars. While it is a safety risk, there are some very nice old cars, and they deserve to be kept alive and in good shape.

@phas3r: Some of these features should be already available in our markets, or they may soon. (Focus probably?). But yes, probably that's just argument for arguments sake. However I still don't see why it should be less stressful. Ok, so scratches and bangs won't bother you as much. But if you scratch or bang an expensive car and need to pay? It also IMHO takes more effort to drive an older car. The brakes are not as good, the steering is not as light. It tends to be rather noisy inside. Always the fear of dying because the car is not exactly safe. There are probably many more reasons.

DSG give problems for slow driving? I beg to differ, at least the one I drive occasionally does not give me any trouble. In fact I find the 4 speeder of my own car by far inferior, also at low speeds. It is rougher, harder to dose, jerky, ...

Expensive tyres and rims can be replaced by more sensible ones. I do advise against big rims anyway, there is little gain at a high cost (not just monetary).

Do you always drive only 20 km/h? Can you influence the speed at which others drive? And even a hit at 50 km/h can be very serious.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Dec 12 2012, 01:20 AM

Truly rich will have nice cars and money in the pocket. No need to sacrifice one for the other. Yes your BMW might lose half of the value over 5 years, what's the problem? Sheer driving pleasure man.

damn my car is lowered, and i kinda wanna keep it that way for better cornering/driving stability

very agree. the rich no need to choose one over the other cuz can afford both.

most working class or middle class would have to compromise abit.

some ppl rather drive a nice car because he likes it so much n spend less on food and travel less.

or spend more on children and compromise abit on 2nd tier choice, say a cr-z than a VW tiguan (true story) cuz he told me when u r married w kids, u will think of safety, thus ,an SUV

can't say he is wrong, different ppl different priority. some call it different passion, right.

It's not a crime to like a car passionate and change to that decent looking car by becoming more thrifty and work harder rather than being labelled, 'this dude chg car, but broke his bank'. of course it is unwise but well that's his choice.

as long as other ppl respect that and not call him all the negative things just because he likes a good car & drives with civic conscious in his mind then I think there's nothing wrong .

mayb you should ask yourself - why u so kepoh in the first place? maybe you should work harder to upgrade your life than be a cynic

+1 THIS! THIS!

haha if you are telling me you are driving a crap car just to have some savings in your banking account that means you are still poor. lol no offence.

u mean something like this?

old is ok..as long u maintain and take care of it.

i have a kelisa for day drive
and a conti for long hauls

city drive, small cars are way better

Hv a 97 factory std Corolla SEG apart from 14" alloys bought cash wit my own money.

My biggest n probably only pain wit it is when ppl say:

"Hey, ur car really clean lah. Izit from ur dad?"