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eaglehelang
post Aug 4 2013, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(rose cindy @ Aug 4 2013, 07:27 PM)
nope.. your church have? today too noisy, kids crying,make noise,run here n there..just wanna suggest to church let the children liturgy until finish mass.. During offertory session those kids ( children liturgy) back.. then back make noise again
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My church does & most if not all Protestant churches do. We also have Sunday School for 3 and above.
Age below 3 are to go into mother's room with parent taking care. The mother's room have loudspeaker where the parent can hear the sermon. Normal thing for us
If both parents on duty, like singing or musician, they normally find a church member to take care for a while. So far, only ever saw 1 brother carrying his toddler while adjusting loudpseaker, he is the sound engineer. His wife was also on duty that day & the kid cry if other people jaga.
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post Jan 23 2014, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Kravo @ Jan 23 2014, 11:22 AM)
got question here for christian.

does christian used the word @llah in their preaching?
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Yes, cos the Al kitab(malay Bible) has the Allah term. The preacher has to read the scriptures during his/her preaching and it being a religious service, they would surely need to refer to the Al Kitab, the BM service that is.

As the other forumer stated, Arab Christians have using Allah since before Islam came about. Apparently they were the ones who told the missionaries Allah is the translation for God(according to NECF in a inter religion forum where PAS was also present).

The Aramaic word for God is Elah, El. It is used in certain parts of the Bible include the gospels. Remember Jesus was from the same region as Muhammad.

Btw, both Tuhan and Allah is used. 'I Am the Lord your God', 'Akulah Tuhan Allahmu'
All this has been explained countless times in RWI and Kopitiam. For further discussin on Allah issue, go to RWI, dont want long standing thread to get nuked

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post Jan 23 2014, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 23 2014, 01:25 PM)
If you're familiar with the Bible, we call this spiritual blindness.
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From Corinthians ? Sounds like something apostle Paul would say
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post Jan 23 2014, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 23 2014, 01:37 PM)
whatever u do, don't join one church in tmn billion, a lot of arrogant focks there.
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You were post in RWI abt existing members who are action, interested in their clique only??
If you are Christian, then I suggest attend a church with better hospitality dept, ie those in charge of new comers. They are supposed to intro new ppl to similar age group or field of work. If dont have, then home group leader who stay nearest to the new member.

Wait, is the church name got 7th day sthing? That's 7th day Adventists, cultist type, google abt it.

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post Jan 23 2014, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 23 2014, 04:30 PM)
wrong...don't be brainwashed.

Yes priority is god but if you don't feel belonged to a church, you will definitely burn out.

Fellowship is very important. Of course no church is perfect but this tmn billion one is a piece of shiit. If there was a riot and people burn it down, i wouldn't feel sorry for it. In fact i will cheer it.

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Top most priority is still God. To stay or leave a church, depends on God's will, ie what God wants us to you. God want us to stay, stay, God say leave, then leave. Sometimes God tells us to do difficult stuff but from there His grace, strength & wisdom is more for us to do the task/mission/work.

I'm sure you have heard or read of God asking Pastors to take over problematic churches. Something like nobody want to take the big task but God telling them, go do, I your God am with you. They obeyed God & did. This is example from Msia ya.
You might say this is full time, they called to minister, etc. But working outside the church also(marketplace), we are supposed to seek God as to career & major decisions. Now with this Allah thing going on, the most basic question is when time come, will we make a stand or get scared & dont dare go church?

Fellowship, the socializing thing, depends on personality. I find it very tiring, read book or nowadays computer/smartphone better, no people bising2 give more stress. If leader lagilah.

In Msia, many of us are 1st generation CHristians. We bring with us the 'old self' from previous religion. Churches also attract a lot of troubled people looking for love, joy peace,etc. End up, we see these weird characters around.
Some people very sensitive one, sikit2 butthurtt. tongue.gif

Anyway, the flawed nature of humans is why our focus should be on God, humans often times fail us.


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post Jan 24 2014, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 24 2014, 08:30 AM)
Thats not the point, that rubbish wannabe church at Tmn Billion, is making focus on god first as a political excuse to sideline people they don;t like. THis way, they can place the people they don;t like in one corner and the people they like who get preferential treatment on another side. They are trying to hide their discrimination towards those they don't like under the premise of telling those people who make complains to forget about it to focus to god.

You don't get my point, u r ignoring the problem, but saying not to focus on men but god. U go read Paul's letters, he say all sorts of internal strife at his church. Got pretenders and even people backstabbing apostle paul. U think he just keep quiet and focus on god?

No...he went on to write to tell the church people what to do with these pretenders and people who say bad things about him. In other words, Paul address the problem even when he was thousands of miles away from churches like Ladocea..Corinth...etc. Worse still those days no Pos Laju or Internet. Paper also scarce..with papyrus Paul still get his message through.

1st gen christians are much better than the 3rd gen christians. I hate 3rd gen christians because they act like they so elite...they just like Harry Potter's nemesis...who don't like those wizard's who r 1st gen, call them "mudblood".

The problem at Tmn Billion church is that they r focusing on discrimination n pre judgement on other people.

Somebody should take a swipe at them and after that allow godly karma to take its course.

I pray that the slimy church won't grow.
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Aiyoo, I'm talking life in general, first & foremost is always God. Because a lot of people backslide when leaders fall, when their leaders sin, they feel discouraged, disillusioned & dont come to church anymore. That shouldnt be the way.

I'm not ignoring the problem, one the churches I attended in another state almost split, so I have been thru & know. 1st thing is to pray & intercede as to what to do. Then go do, not sit goyang kaki. But... a lot of us feel hurt, angry, go do 1st(operating in the flesh), then only tell God to bless.

Like the other poster said, anointing. Serving also we need anointing.
When I said some people sikit2 butthurtt is speaking from experience as assistant leader. Talk one sentence also get offended, go complain to the pastor, lol. I talk direct & serious one when there is task to be completed, like working time. Some like to talk nenek moyang story, then only do work, I want faster2 do, then I can go do other thing. My colleagues & customers at work also not so sensitive

HIyaa, want to cerita abt church & church people, berjela2 one. Just told you the main points

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post Jan 24 2014, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 24 2014, 01:13 PM)
Yeah la aiyo aiyo some more. What i mean is if you feel the church is not suitable because they r deutchbags, split la. There are 1000 churches in Klang valley why u gotta hang around with deuchbags?

You cannot get annointing wihout trying, kapeesh? So its your job to go out there and try out which ministry is suitable or not. Try few months, not suitable then try another ministry. But there are some little napoleans out there however, who wants their own cronies only in their ministry, so be prepared to kena bantai.

You think those complain complain butthurt are small potatoes ah? U think any tom, d***, harry can simply go and complain to pastor. If the person can complain to the pastor and pastor take action, the person got political backing. Understand? U as an assistant leader totally have no awareness of what is happening. I recall my cell got a member who is the secretary to the main pastor, when my cg had an uprising because a member wanted to coup the leader, the secretary complained and the main pastor stepped in...the rebellious members dibuang negara.

Those talk nenek moyang story are those aunties who are want to gossip at everyh turn. The difference my one is that I am talking about discrimination and gross political marginalisation of people they don't like, favourtism. Understand?
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hahaha, I know and am aware but I dont let it effect my faith. I'm not in full time ministry anyway. The example is small example, the big issues I would not talk abt it in public forum.
My pt is, if small thing also so easily butthurtt, then big thing? Pengsan terus lah those ppl.

The issues went up as high as Msia's general council, in charge of whole Msia one. What you describe, more geng stuff also got. So, it is not that I take light of your....hmm suffering, but with time, God will heal the wounds and we are able to move on. Sounds cliche but true

On giftings and ministries to serve, there is such thing called spiritual gifts profile. Whether is introvert, extrovert, task or people oriented,etc

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